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dRes Cveni gazeTis mkiTxvelebs axlos gagacnobT qalbatons, romelic aTeuli welia sazRvao-saganmanaTleblo saqmianobas eweva. lali xvedeliZe baTumis navigaciis saswavlo universitetis kancleria.
aRsaniSnavia, rom wels saswavlebelma wlis profesiuli saganmanaTleblo programis nominaciaSi gaimarjva programiT – `gembanis rigiTi mezRvauri~. qalbatoni lali aseve saerTaSoriso sanaosno da savaWro organizaciis Tavmjdomarea. saerTaSoriso sanaosno da savaWro organizacia, es is adgilia, sadac sazRvao gadazidvebis da biznesis ganviTarebis sferoSi msoflio masStabiT mmarTvel poziciebs qalebi ikaveben. asociaciis mizania sanaosno industriaSi rac SeiZleba meti qali CaerTos da maTi roli gaizardos. organizaciaA ukve 40 saxelmwifos aerTianebs da masSi 3000-ze meti qalia gawevrianebuli. ufro dawvril-ebiT sakuTar saqmianobasa da ganvlil gzaze qalbatonma lalim CvenTan interviuSi isaubra.
– qalbatono lali, Tqven saqarTvelos sazRvao dargSi erT-erTi yvelaze cnobili saxe xarT. ramdenad rTuli iyo gza, romelic dRemde gaiareT?
– ver vityvi, rom gza rTuli ar iyo, Tumca saqmisadmi, ganaTlebis sferosadmi Cemi siyvaruli imdenad didia, rom es sirTule ar migrZvnia. yvelaferi daiwyo oficerTa saxliT, sadac oficrebs inglisur enaSi vamzadebdiT aspiranturaSi mosaxvedrad. 2 wlis Semdeg konkursis Sedegad muSaoba daviwye saqarTvelos politeqnikuri institutis baTumis filialSi, Semdgom daiwyo fiqri kolejis daarsebaze, kolejidan ki universitetamde movediT. saerTo jamSi, es iyo sasiamovno gza, romelic amavdroulad gaxldaT sakmaod Sromatevadi.
– rogor gaCnda universitetis daarsebis idea? rTuli iyo Canafiqris ganxorcieleba?
– universitetis daarsebis idea gauCnda universitetis reqtor emzar xvedeliZes. mogexsenebaT 90-ian wlebamde, jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris periodSi, axalgazrdebi umaRles sazRvao ganaTlebas ruseTis universitetebSi euflebodnen. mas Semdeg, rac saqarTvelo damoukidebel saxelmwifod gamocxadda, gadawyvetileba miiRes, rom axlandeli sazRvao akademia, im dros koleji, umaRles saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebad gamocxadebuliyo. swored aman gvibiZga kolejis daarsebaze dafiqrebisken, radgan es rgoli Tavisufali darCa. me da emzars ganaTlebis mimarTulebiT gamocdileba gvqonda, amitomac mivxvdiT, rom es iyo saukuTeso dro da SesaZlebloba, romelic unda gamogveyenebina.
– gaixseneT pirveli nabijebi . . .
– yvelaferi daviwyeT programebis SeqmniT, amas mohyva sertificireba, licenziis miReba. sawyisi etapisTvis viqiraveT Senoba, romelic mdebareobda gogebaSvilis quCaze da miviReT 80 studenti. maSin amaze metis fufuneba ar gvqonda. erTi wlis Semdeg, isev qiriT, gadmovediT maxinjaurSi, am SenobaSi, romelic maSin saxelmwifos balansze iyo. maxsovs, Senobas sveli wertilebic ki ar hqonda, Cven CavatareT remonti. finansuri problemebi gzadagza iyo, Tumca, saboloo jamSi, Cvenma gaTvlebma gaamarTla. 5 wlis Tavze Senobis yidvac SevZeliT da nel-nela studentTa raodenobac gaizarda.
– rogoria Tqveni erTi samuSao dRe, vici, rom sakmaod datvirTuli xarT . . .
– samuSao dRe aris sakmaod datvirTuli. vinaidan me var kancleri, anu Sinaurulad rom vTqvaT, aqaurobis diasaxlisi, samsaxurebrivi da Tanamdebobrivi instruqciebiTac mevaleba struqturuli erTeulebis xSiri Semowmeba, amitom dila swored maTTan komunikaciiT iwyeba. mivdivar yvela kabinetSi, gavdivarT dRis gegmas, vamowmeb Sesrulebas. dRe datvirTulia mSoblebTan, studentebTan SexvedrebiT, werilebze pasuxebis gacemiT, sxvadasxva RonisZiebis dagegmviT da sxva aucilebeli saqmeebiT.
– amavdroulad, axerxebT yovelTvis iyoT formaSi . . .
– ki, es yovelTvis ase iyo. studentobis pirvelive dRidan ase viyavi. Cacmas yovelTvis did yuradRebas vaqcevdi, mqonda stipendia da im Tanxas SopingisTvis viyenebdi, xan Ceqmas vyidulobdi, xan tansacmels. saboloo jamSi, araCveulebrivi garderobi moviwyve. yovelTvis gamorCeulad mecva da miyvarda Tavis movla. makiaJis da pomadis gareSe gareT arasdros gavdiodi. maxsovs, erTxel ufroskurselebma mkiTxes: `lali, rogor ar gezareba yoveldRe formaSi yofna~. CemTvis kiTxva Sokismomgvreli iyo. rogor SeiZleba qals Tavis movla mobezrdes? 70 wlis var da CemTvis dRemde araferi Secvlila. 9-is naxevarze vdgebi, dilas varjiSiT viwyeb, Semdeg abazanaSi Sevdivar, sauzmes meuRle mimzadebs. amas mohyveba tansacmlis SerCeva. es yvelaferi imdenad gamomuSavebuli maqvs, sul raRac 15 wuTSi vaswreb. DdatvirTuli grafikis miuxedavad, diasaxlisobac araCveulebrivad gamomdis.
– Tqven gaqvT Zlieri qalis imiji, xarT gadawyvetilebis mimRebTa rigebSi. am gadmosaxedidan, rogor fiqrobT, ra ufro mniSvnelovania, kariera Tu ojaxi?
– orive, Tumca CemTvis yvelaze Zvirfasi mainc ojaxia. Tu qals imis SesaZlebloba aqvs, rom iyos dakavebuli, akeTos sayvareli saqme da amavdroulad yuradReba ar miaklos ojaxs – es ukve SesaniSnavia.
– navigaciis saswavlo universiteti Tqven gareSe warmoudgenelia. uyvarxarT yvela TanamSromels, studentebs. rogor axerxebT amas?
– daviwyeb imiT, rom yvelaze mniSvnelovani siyvarulia. vinc ar unda iyos meuRle, Svili, megobari, naTesavi Tu ubralo nacnobi, Sen is unda giyvardes. yovelTvis mikvirda im adamianebis, romlebic amboben, rom mTavaria vuyvarde. ara, es ar aris ase. mTavaria, Sen giyvardes. CemTvis ase iyo yovelTvis, am damokidebulebebiT var samsaxurSic. pirvel rigSi, me unda miyvardes Cemi TanamSromeli. me unda miviRo is guliT, rom Semdgom raRacebze Tvali davxuWo, raRacebi vapatio. me rom is meyvareba, Semiyvarebs isic, Seiyvarebs danarCen TanamSromlebsac, Tbil garemoSi ki saqme guliT keTdeba. Cveni TanamSromeli nato Wyonia xumrobs kidec, qalbatoni lalis yvela Sexvedra iwyeba sityvebiT – giyvardeT erTmaneTio. diax, me vamayob imiT, rom Cvens dawesebulebaSi msgavsi urTierTobebi arsebobs da adamianebs uyvarT erTmaneTi.
– ra aris TqvenTvis zRva da sazRvao sfero? ratom maincdamainc es mimarTuleba?
– zRva Cveni qveynis momavalia da mixaria, rom saqarTvelos sazRvao seqtori sul ufro uaxlovdeba evropul standartebs. rodesac Cven kolejis daarsebaze fiqri daviwyeT, es is periodi iyo, roca sazRvao dargisTvis sasicocxlod mniSvnelovani iyo konkurencia. amitomac SevaCereT arCevani am sferoze. amas rom Tavi davaneboT, zRva Cemi cxovrebis azria. 19 wlis viyavi, roca Sevqmeni ojaxi mezRvaurTan, vcxovrobdi zRviT da dRemde ase var. zRvas ukavSirdeba Cemi piradi cxovrebac da karierac.
– Tqveni saqmiT popularizacias uwevT mezRvauris profesias. ra roli aqvs dargs aWarisTvis da ras akeTebT imisTvis, rom meti qali iyos CarTuli? rogor fiqrobT, ramdenad mniSvnelovania qalTa CarTuloba sazRvao ganaTlebasa da, zogadad, sazRvao industriaSi?
– qalis rolis gazrdis naTeli magaliTia Tamar ioseliani, romelsac udidesi pasuxismgebloba aqvs da xelmZRvanelobs sazRvao transportis saagentos. Cveni sazogadoeba nel-nela angrevs stereotips, rom zRva kacis saqmea. Cven popularizacias vuwevT dargs da yvela Sexvedraze vcdilobT avuxsnaT axalgazrdebs, rom mezRvauroba qalsac SeuZlia. amis magaliTia Cveni studenti anastasia qajaia, romlis saxeli da gvari SesaZloa bevrisTvis nacnobia kidec. mova dro, rodesac igi dabrundeba zRvidan da Cvens saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebaSi studentebs pirad gamocdilebas da codnas gauziarebs. Cven mis gambedaobas mxars vuWerT da samomavlodac ase iqneba.
– dabolos, ra gegmebi gaqvT da sad xedavT sakuTar Zalebsa da SesaZleblobebs uaxloesi 10 wlis ganmavlobaSi?
– 10 wlis Semdegac aq var, baTumis navigaciis saswavlo universitetSi. es Cemi ojaxia da sxva veraferze vfiqrob!

