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23 dekembers baTumis municipalitetis sakrebuloSi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ mier mowveuli sxdoma kvorumis uqonlobis gamo ver gaixsna. dRis wesrigi ori sakiTxis kenWisyras iTvaliswinebda: sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris arCevas da 2021 wlis biujetis damtkicebis Sesaxeb wina mowvevis sakrebulos mier miRebuli dadgenilebis baTilad cnobas. kvorumis Sesadgenad sxdomas sakrebulos 18 wevri mainc unda daswreboda, magram amjerad sxdomaze ar mividnen `qarTuli ocneba-demokratiuli saqarTvelos~ wevrebi . . .
baTumis sakrebuloSi daZabuloba matulobs – xan opozicia acxadebs protests, xan – pozicia. jerjerobiT, SeTanxmebamde ver mividnen, Tumca `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadebiT, aucileblad gamoiZebneba saerTo ena adekvaturad moazrovne deputatebs Soris da miaRweven konsensuss, romelic axla gansakuTrebiT saWiroa qalaqis ganviTarebisTvis. calke xazgasasmelia is garemoebac, rom wels uprecedento biujetia gamoyofili, romelic unda gaixarjos qalaqis da qalaqelebis sakeTildReod.
am Temaze `aWarasTan~ saubrobs baTumis municipalitetis sakrebulos deputati, fraqcia `qarTuli ocnebis~ Tavmjdomare Tengiz afxazava.
– batono Tengiz, sakrebulos meore sxdoma `qarTulma ocnebam~ CaSala. gadaiReT `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ xerxebi?
– diax, ar Sedga kvorumi, radgan Cvenma fraqciam ar miiRo monawileoba am absurdul sxdomaSi da destruqciul farsSi, romelic dagegmili hqonda `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~, `lelos~ da partias `gaxaria-saqarTvelosTvis~. Cven ver miviRebdiT monawileobas winaswar ganzraxul, qalaqis da qalaqelTa sawinaaRmdegod mimarTul procesSi.
– ra sakiTxebis ganxilva iyo dagegmili?
– dRis wesrigSi ori sakiTxi iyo, sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris arCevis da 2022 wlis baTumis wina sakrebulos mier miRebuli, biujetis baTilad cnobis. rac Seexeba Tavmjdomaris arCevas, pirvel sxdomazec iyo es sakiTxi Setanili dRis wesrigSi da rodesac uflebamosilebis cnoba moxda, vTxoveT opozicias darCena da sxdomis gagrZeleba, radgan mniSvnelovani sakiTxebi iyo gadasawyveti, maT Soris Tavmjdomaris, komisiis Tavmjdomareebis, partiebis warmomadgenlobis arCeva, komisiebis kvotireba da a. S. pirdapiri CarTva gvqonda teleeTerSi da sazogadoeba dainaxavda, vin ras ityoda, rogor moiqceoda, vin vis SeuTanxmdeboda, mokled, politikuri procesebi warimarTeboda, magram momentalurad datoves sxdoma – jer `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ wevrebi gavidnen, maT mihyva `leloc~. im dRes gaxarias partiis warmomadgenlebi saerTod ar gamocxaddnen, ar Sedga kvorumi, sxdoma CaiSala da ver ganvixileT zemoT xsenebuli sakiTxebi. iseTi STabeWdileba dagvrCa, rom sakuTar deputatebs ar endnen da gaiyvanes, rom ar mieRoT maTTvis miuRebeli Sedegi. magaT rigebSi dawyebulia rRvevis procesi da, Sesabamisad, undoblobis Zalian didi faqtoria opoziciur partiebSi.
– rogorc viciT, meore sxdomaze gamoucxadeblobis gamo, undoblobis igive braldeba Tqvenc wagiyenes?
– ki, igive gadmogvabrales, eSiniaT, rom `qarTuli ocnebis~ winaaRmdeg wava romelimeo, magram ician, rom es sruli absurdia. dRes mocemuloba iseTia, Cven gareSe ver gadawyveten verafers. jer kidev wina sxdomaze, destruqciuli pozicia rom arCies da demonstraciulad gavidnen sxdomaTa darbazidan, araerTxel SevTavazeT dialogi. rogorc fraqciis Tavmjdomarem, televiziiTac ki gavakeTe gancxadeba, mzad varT molaparakebisTvis, mobrZandiT, visaubroT, SevjerdeT, qalaqis sakrebulom funqcionireba unda daiwyos, es aucilebelia Cvenive moqalaqeebisaTviso da a.S. arc am mimarTvas aravin gamoxmaurebia . . .
– isini gaiZaxian, rom baTums uzarmazari krizisi emuqreba, amitom surT biujetis baTilad cnoba da axliT Canacvleba.
– aranairi krizisi qalaqs ar emuqreba, biujeti didebuli, uprecedento gvaqvs – 254-milioniani, aqedan gamomdinare, minimum erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi aranairi krizisi ar gveqneba. am fonze, sainteresoa, romel krizisze da safrTxeze saubroben. imis nacvlad, erTad gavaanalizoT, ra, rogor da sad ganawildes, iTxoven am biujetis gabaTilebas, warmogidgeniaT?! aseTi azri vis TavSi daibada an ratom dauSves, rom avyvebodiT am TamaSSi, qalaqis sawinaaRmdegod mimarTul am qmedebebSi, ar vici. aqedan gamomdinare, miTxariT, ra azri hqonda am sxdomaze Cvens daswrebas? ratom surT, TiTqmis asi milioniT gazrdili biujetis baTilad cnoba, simarTle giTxraT, ver vxvdebi. maTi azriT, unda SeCerdes qalaqis ganviTareba, axali quCebis, skverebis, moednebis mowyoba. im mtkivneul tragediaze ras gvetyvian, axlaxan rom datrialda baTumis centrSi? sadarbazos CamoSlasa da iq cocxlad CamarxulTa Sesaxeb vlaparakob. amis kvalobaze, mTavrobasTan erTad xom SemuSavda avariuli saxlebis likvidaciis 20-milioniani programa, romlis realizaciis Sedegad 4 weliwadSi baTumi avariuli saxlebisgan gamoTavisufldeba, problema erTxel da samudamod gadawydeba da Cvens moqalaqeebs araferi daemuqreba. am yvelafers rom gaaCereb politikuri ambiciebis gamo, es aris zrunva qalaqze? 8 milioniTaa gazrdili qalaqis janmrTelobis da socialuri dacvis programebi. Tuki sakrebulom ar daiwyo funqcionireba, ramdenime aTasi adamiani ar miiRebs am servisebs. ganaTlebis, kulturis, sportis, xelovnebis kuTxiTac Zalian gazrdilia dafinanseba. 108 milionia gamoyofili infrastruqturuli proeqtebisTvis, aqamde arnaxuli Tanxa. yvelaferi umaRles donezea SemuSavebuli da dagegmili, SesaZlebelia, amas ar mixedo da SeaCero? romel krizisze laparakoben, veravin xvdeba, albaT, Tavadac ver xvdebian. davjdeT, movilaparakoT, davgegmoT, ganvsajoT, vizrunoT qalaqze, ratom unda movakloT adamianebs is, rac biujetiT aris maTi keTildReobisTvis gansazRvruli? ar davjdebiT `qarTul ocnebasTan~ mosalaparakebel magidasTano. ratom ar dajdebi, Se dalocvilo, ras gTavazob cuds da miuRebels?
– Tavidanve xom icodnen, `qarTul ocnebasTan~ erTad rom mouwevdaT qalaqis marTva, maSin ratom iyridnen kenWs?
– amboben, opoziciuri unda iyos baTumis sakrebuloo. daCemebuli aqvT, Cven gvaqvs umravlesobao. saidan acxadeben amas, rodesac imis miuxedavad, rom gaerTianebuli, SeTanxmebuli kandidatebi hyavdaT yvelgan, maJoritarul nawilSic movugeT arCevnebi 4/3-ze da proporciulSic. anu iqac movugeT da aqac.
– amtkiceben, rom gaayalbeT.
– gavayalbeT ki ara, bevr ubanze taqtianad davTmeT. es Zalian kargad ician, magram xels rac aZlevT, mxolod imas amboben, ar ixedebian ukan, radgan gasdiT nebismieri naTqvami, romelsac, TiTqmis yovelTvis haerSi isvrian.
– nugzar futkaraZis gardacvalebas Zalian arasasiamovno saubrebi. mohyva
– Zalian samwuxaro faqti moxda – Cveni kolega gardaicvala. amaze, Tu SeiZleba, ar gavakeTeb komentars, radgan pativs vcem gardacvlilis xsovnas.
– am samwuxaro faqtis Semdeg kidev ufro daixlarTa situacia. Tu SeiZleba, agvixseniT, ra xdeba axla?
– Cveni gundi, konkretul momentSi arsebul realobaze dayrdnobiT, ganixilavs mdgomareobas da akeTebs daskvnebs. axlave agixsniT, ra xdeba: gvaqvs 16 mandati. 14 mandati aqvs `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~. maT emateba `lelos~ erTi mandati, ori mandati aqvs gaxarias partias da erTi damoukidebeli deputatia. es ukanaskneli acxadebs, rom is ar Seva aranair garigebaSi `erTian nacionalur moZraobasTan~. amis gamo datova kidec gaxarias partia. igive partiis wevr akaki gvianiZes ra undoda, ratom mivida meore sxdomaze, ver mivxvdi, magram maTi meore deputati nino baTiaSvili ar misula. walenjixis magaliTiT Tu vimsjelebT, gamodis, gaaforma gaxarias gundma aliansi `nacionalebTan~, magram es adamianebi `qarTul ocnebaSi~ arian gazrdilebi da imedi maqvs, Sesabamis daskvnebs gaakeTeben – ra surT, visTan erTad ibrZvian vis winaaRmdeg. imaSic darwmunebuli var, am xalxis did nawils saakaSvilis partiasTan TanamSromlobis aranairi survili ar gaaCnia. isini amboben, arc `nacmoZraobas~ davuWerT mxars da arc `ocnebas~, sanam ZalTa balansi bolomde ar gairkvevao.
– ra pozicias iWers `lelo~?
– `lelo~ akopirebs `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ yvela nabijs da imeorebs mis sityvebs. mokled rom vTqvaT, ai, aseTi situaciaa dRes Cvens sakrebuloSi. aqedan gamomdinare, baTumis sakrebuloSi, `qarTuli ocnebis~ fraqciis gareSe, veraviTar gadawyvetilebas ver miiReben. es aris faqti, realoba.
– Sualeduri arCevnebi baTumis romel ubanSi iqneba da rodis?
– saarCevno olqi teritoriulad `stefanovkis~ nawili, adliis nawili da gonioa. arCevnebi maisSi gaimarTeba.
– ratom gaqvT imedi, rom amjerad Tqveni kandidati gaimarjvebs?
– es marTlac daZabuli, mniSvnelovani da gadamwyveti Sualeduri arCevnebi iqneba. Tu am wuTs arsebuli status-kvo ar Seicvala, maSin kidev ufro daiZabeba viTareba. Tumca iqamde 5 Tvea. am xnis ganmavlobaSi dainaxavs xalxi `erTiani nacionaluri moZraobis~ destruqciul qmedebebs. Tavad maT gundSic arian adamianebi, romlebsac ar moswonT situacia. amas zedapirulad ar vambob, gvaqvs aseTi informacia.
– opozicia – piriqiT, acxadebs, rom es Tqven ar gaqvT Sansi.
– eseni mudam raRacas acxadeben, magram axla modiT, erTad ganvixiloT, ra xdeba: sazogadoebam Cagabara qalaqis samarTavad ndobis mandati. es niSnavs, iyo qalaqis sakrebuloSi da baTumisTvis, baTumelebisTvis aucilebel, saWirboroto sakiTxebze imsjelo, miiRo mosaxleobisTvis misaRebi, adekvaturi gadawyvetilebebi. am dros ras akeTebs opozicia? acxadebs, rom sakrebulos wevrTa udides nawilTan, `qarTuli ocnebis~ fraqciasTan erTad ar davjdebi molaparakebis magidasTano. apireben 100 milioniT gazrdili biujetis gauqmebas, qalaqSi krizisis gamowvevas, raTa Catardes riggareSe arCevnebi, romelic, maTi mtkicebiT, gamogviyvans e. w. politikuri da ekonomikuri Cixidan. esaa maTi filosofia. miTxariT erTi, romeli WkuaTmyofeli adamiani ver mixvdeba, rom es gamosavali araa. quCaSi rom epatiJebian moqalaqeebs, vin mihyveba? ratom ver xvdebian, imitom misces ndobis mandati, civilurad, darbazebSi gaakeTon saqme da ara aqciebi awyon. yvelas mobezrda mitingebi. sakrebulo niSnavs qalaqisTvis avtoritetuli qalaqelebis Sekrebas. aq Tu saWiroa, unda moilaparako, daTmo, Tu ar aris dasaTmobi – ar daTmo, naxo saerTo gza, SeTanxmde, qalaqisTvis mniSvnelovani sakiTxebi gadawyvito. baTumis ganviTarebisTvis imsjele, raRac ukeTesi, konkurentunariani winadadebebi Tqvi, mosaxleobisTvis sakeTildReo sakuTari azri daafiqsire. yvelafer amas xedavs misive amomrCeveli. Tanac, Sidapartiuli rRvevis procesi dawyebulia da, savaraudod, maisis Sualedur arCevnebamde, konkretul deputaciasTan SevZlebT molaparakebas, raTa movaxerxoT sakrebuloSi viTarebis dalageba, Tavmjdomaris da misi moadgileebis, komisiebis Tavmjdomareebis arCeva, rom qalaqis municipalitetma daiwyos normalurad funqcionireba.
– qalaqis sakrebulos nacionali deputatebic SimSiloben saakaSvilis gaTavisuflebis mizniT?
– ver getyviT, vin sadaa da ras Svreba. am sakiTxze gaakeTa komentari Cveni partiis oficiozma, magram saaxalwlo dReebSi sakuTar Tanapartielebs rom SimSilobas daavaleb, raRazea saubari, aseTi absurduli aqciis mofiqreba ar ginda?
– prezidentis mier erovnuli Serigebis procesis mimdinareobas rogor SeafasebT?
– `qarTuli ocneba~ Zalian Zlieri, erT muStad Sekruli gundia, romelic icavs ierarqiul da urTierTpativiscemis principebs. qalbatoni prezidentis ideis Sesaxeb araerTxel gamoTqves azri Cvenma liderebma. sxvas, gansakuTrebuls, verafers vityvi. mivyveT procesebs da vnaxavT, ra moxdeba, rogor moiqcevian opoziciuri partiebis warmomadgenlebi, Seneldeba Tu ara arsebuli dapirispireba. yvelafers dro daalagebs da gansjis.
– pandemiis momZlavrebaze ras gvetyviT?
– msoflios wamyvanma epidemiologebma, janmom araerTxel daaanonsa, rom 2022 weli pandemiis dasasrulis dasawyisi iqneba. es Cveni gadarCenaa, radgan pandemiis pirveli oTxi talRis Semdeg, rodesac saqarTvelom Zalian efeqturad imuSava am mimarTulebiT da SeZlo procesis marTva, qveyanam arnaxuli 10,5 %-iani ekonomikuri zrda ganicada. Tuki kacobrioba daamarcxebs am verag viruss, darwmunebuli var, rom momaval wels dagegmili 6,5%-ianze meti ekonomikuri zrda gveqneba, xolo gazrdili Semosavlebi aisaxeba TiToeuli moqalaqis saojaxo biujetSi. vsargeblob SemTxveviT da gazeT `aWaris~ koleqtivs vulocav axal wels. Tqveni erTguli mkiTxveli da respondenti var. yvela poziciaze, sadac mimuSavia, vTanamSromlobdi TqvenTan. pirvel rigSi, gisurvebT, rom 2022 weli yofiliyos koronavirusis damarcxebis weli. janmrTeloba, mSvidoba, xvavi da baraqa ar mogklebodeT mTel redaqcias da yvela mkiTxvels!