გიგა ფარტენაძე: საქართველოს ხელისუფლებამ ოპოზიციასთან ერთად უნდა დაიცვას ის ფასეულობა, რასაც ჩვენი ქვეყნის დასავლეთისკენ სწრფვა ჰქვია
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politikuri realoba amJamad saqarTveloSi, garkveulwilad, stabiluria, arc saarCevno maraTonia gaCaRebuli da, sabednierod, arc raime feTqebadsaSiSi viTarebaa qveyanaSi, Tumca opozicia aanonsebs ara marto demonstraciebis gamarTvas, aramed parlamentis boikotiTac imuqreba, rac, cxadia, destabilizaciis procesebs Seicavs, rogoria Cveni qveynis arsebuli politikur-ekonomikuri situacia, ra gamowvevebis winaSe vdgavarT da rogoria maTi gadaWris gzebi? am sakiTxebze vesaubrebiT sajaro mmarTvelobis doqtors, saqarTvelos teqnikuri universitetis doqtorants, baTumis saxelmwifo universitetis leqtors giga fartenaZes.
– dRevandel saqarTveloSi arsebul realobaze ras ityviT, ra aspeqtebs gamoyofdiT?
– unda aRiniSnos, rom 2021 wels Catarebuli municipaluri arCevnebis Semdeg, etapobrivad ikveTeba is konkretuli Sedegebi, romlebic gansazRvraven Cveni qveynis Sidapolitikur situacias. gvaqvs ramdenime municipaliteti, sadac arc opozicias da arc mmarTvel partias aqvs saWiro umravlesoba imisTvis, rom moipovos samarTavi berketebi adgilobriv warmomadgenlobiT organoSi – sakrebuloSi. dRemde ver irCeven sakrebulos Tavmjdomareebs, ver akompleqteben komisiebs, Sesabamisad, ar gvyavs arc komitetis Tavmjdomareebi, es yvelaferi ki, ra Tqma unda, pirdapirproporciulad aisaxeba Cveni qveynis dRevandel realobaze. qveynis stabilurobis da ganviTarebis erT-erT wamyvan Zalad, swored, Zlieri da qmediTi adgilobrivi municipaluri warmomadgenloba mimaCnia.
– ra Sefasebas miscemT xazaraZe-jafariZis sasamarTlo process, azrTa sxvadasxvaoba gamoiwvia am procesma . . .
– xazaraZe-jafariZis SemTxvevaze saubris dros, bunebrivia, ikveTeba rogorc politikuri, ise samarTlebrivi aspeqtebi. politikuris SemTxvevaSi sazogadoebaSi gaCnda logikuri kiTxva – ratom aRiZra saqme swored maSin, rodesac maT gamoTqves survili, CarTuliyvnen qveynis politikur procesebSi da Seqmnes politikuri partia `lelo~, xom ar ukavSirdeba es maT politikur aqtiurobas? xolo rac Seexeba am `qeisis~ samarTlebriv mxares, sasamarTlom ixelmZRvanela prokuraturis mier warmodgenili mtkicebulebebiT da miiRo is gadawyvetileba, rac kanonierebis nawilSi kiTxvis niSnebs ar tovebs.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom yvela xelisuflebis `aqilevsis qusli~ sasamarTlo xelisufleba iyo da aris. am mxriv, xelisuflebam ra unda gaakeTos, rom dasavleTis da opoziciis SeniSvnebma iklos?
– demokratiul saxelmwifoSi sasamarTlo xelisufleba aris adamianis uflebebis dacvis mTavari garantori. rodesac xelisufleba sasamarTlos iyenebs ara simarTlis dasadgenad, aramed politikuri manipulaciis saSualebad, swored, msgavsi precedentebi ganapirobebs imas, rom Cndeba saWiroeba qveynis sasamarTlo sistemis Tamami da drouli cvlilebebis. miukerZoeblobisa da damoukideblobis, gamWvirvalobisa da angariSvaldebulebis nawilSi sazogadoebaSi ndobis asamaRleblad, es calsaxaa. am yvelafers adasturebs Cveni saerTaSoriso dasavleli partniorebis ritorikac da araerTi gancxadebac.
– xSirad oponentebi xelisuflebas ekonomikuri mdgomareobis gamoc akritikeben, amaze ras ityviT da aqve gkiTxavT: Tavad opozicias Tu gaaCnia qveynis ekonomikuri ganviTarebis mwyobri gegma?
– maSin, rodesac pasuxs aravin gTxovs imaze, Tu ras saubrob, SedarebiT Tamami xdeba adamiani. igive principi moqmedebs politikaSic. opoziciuri nawili rac ar unda ekonomikur gegmaze esaubros sazogadoebas, Tundac realisturze, ganxorcieleba maTi xelisuflebaSi mosvlamde, praqtikulad, SeuZlebelia. is, rom Cveni qveyana dgas udidesi gamowvevis, siRaribisa da umuSevrobis pirispir, ra Tqma unda, xelisuflebis pasuxismgeblobaa. amitomac xelisuflebis mxridan unda gadaidgas qmediTi nabijebi, unda gadaixedos da sworad Sefasdes Cveni qveynis potenciali da prioritetuli sferoebi, ris Semdegac unda gaiweros ekonomikuri gegma, romelic siRaribidan, gaWirvebidan da nihilizmidan amoiyvans Cven sazogadoebas. nebismieri xelisufali unda cdilobdes Sromisunariani moqalaqeebis sakuTar qveyanaSi dasaqmebas saxelmwifos sakeTildReod da yvelafers akeTebdes imisTvis, rom am xalxis gadineba emigraciaSi (aTasobiT axalgazrdam mimarTa sxvadasxva evropul qalaqs dasaqmebis gancxadebiT, rac sagangaSo unda iyos Cveni qveynisTvis) minimumade davides.
– cxadia, gverds ver avuvliT opoziciis bolodroindel qmedebebs. jer boikotis momxre iyvnen, mere – parlamentSi Sevidnen, axla isev alaparakdnen parlamentis datovebis Sesaxeb. am mxriv, dakarga Tu ara opoziciam mosaxleobis mxardaWera da ra aris amis mizezi?
– modiT, pirdapir vTqvaT: opoziciam, xalxis pirispir arsebuli gamowvevebis mogvarebis gzebis dasaxvis nacvlad, sakuTari partiis, Tavis da liderebis problemebze saubarSi meorexarisxovani gaxada sazogadoeba. imis nacvlad, rom moqalaqeebi, xalxi iyos prioritetuli, partiuli dRis wesrigiT moqmedeben, rac sazogadoebriv ganwyobebze, bunebrivia, negatiurad aisaxeba. faqtobrivad, sazogadoebisTvis opoziciuri partiebis parlamentSi Sesvla. arSesvlis sakiTxi aRar aris ganxilvis sagani. dReis mocemulobiT, opozicia imaze Sors dgas sazogadoebisgan, vidre es iyo municipaluri arCevnebis dros.
– `nacmoZraobam~ daaanonsa regionebSi gasvla mosaxleobaSi saprotesto muxtis asamaRleblad da mZlavri opoziciuri blokis Seqmnas gegmavs riggareSe arCevnebis Catarebis TvalsazrisiT. Tqveni azri amis Taobaze?
– maTi strategiiT ukve xelisuflebac Secvlili unda yofiliyo, Tumca ar Secvlila. davelodoT procesebis ganviTarebas, raime kardinaluri cvlileba naklebad mosalodnelia.
– xSirad saubroben mesame Zalis Seqmnis aucileblobaze, am mxriv pretenzias acxadebdnen `strategia aRmaSenebeli~, `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ da gaxarias partia. ra Sansebi aqvT maT samomavlod da horizontze mosalodnelia Tu ara gamoCndes axali realuri Zala, romelic konkurencias gauwevs moqmed da yofil mmarTvel partiebs?
– calsaxad, mesame Zalis arsebobas ganapirobebs sazogadoebis Sesabamisi dakveTa. dRes politikosebma, partiebma da politelitam SeZles da moaxerxes is, rom sazogadoebas politikisadmi gulgrili damokidebuleba gaumZafres. Tqven mier CamoTvlili opoziciuri partiebis mxardamWerTa jamuri raodenobac ki ver cdeba `nacmoZraobis~ mxardamWerTa ricxvs. ase rom, naklebad savaraudoa mocemuli partiebidan romelime gaxdes realuri sapirwone, alternatiuli wamyvani mesame Zala, romelic SeZlebs, arsebuli da yofili saxelisuflebo gundi Caanacvlos.
– sxvaTa Soris, eqspertebi acxadeben, rom es weli mravalmxriv mniSvnelovani iqneba saqarTvelos saSinao da sagareo politikis TvalsazrisiT. am mxriv ra aspeqtebs gamoyofdiT?
– sagareo politikaze saubris dros aucileblad unda SevexoT iseT mniSvnelovan sakiTxs, rogoric aris Cveni qveynis dasavluri kursi, evrokavSirsa da natoSi integraciis procesi da am fonze ruseTis federaciisgan momdinare safrTxeebi. vfiqrob, mimdinare wels unda gamoikveTos Cveni qveynis natoSi integraciis procesis realuri Sedegebi. Cven araerTi gancxadeba movismineT Crdiloatlantikuri organizaciis moqmedi Tu yofili maRalCinosnebisgan, rom saqarTvelo da ukraina aucileblad gaxdebian am ojaxis wevrebi, Tumca gancxadebebi aRar aris sakmarisi, droa, gamoikveTos konkretuli qmediTi nabijebi, rasac, vfiqrob, rom mimdinare weli naTels mohfens.
– sagareo sakiTxsac SevexoT, rogor SeafasebdiT ruseTis ultimatums Crdiloatlantikuri aliansisadmi, es ras cxadyofs da am mxriv kremlis ambiciebis dakmayofileba saqarTvelos da ukrainis xarjze xom ar moxdeba?
– ruseTi iqceva ise, rogorc ukanaskneli gabrZolebis win moiqceoda nebismieri saxelmwifo. mas dasakargi araferi rCeba, Tu, saqarTvelo da ukraina gaxdebian natos wverebi, swored amitom airCia is taqtika, romelic agresiulobiT da ultimatumis eniT gamoirCeva, faqtobrivad, Zalis demonstrirebiT cdilobs sakuTari interesebis (saqarTvelo-ukrainis natoSi gawevrianebisadmi mkveTrad negatiuri damokidebulebiT) dacvas. is, rom ruseTs ar surs natoSi ixilos ukraina da saqarTvelo, vfiqrob, ar unda gaxdes gadamwyveti faqtori. es xazs gausvams am organizaciis wevri qveynebis sisustes da ideas `erTi yvelasTvis da yvela erTisTvis~ daayenebs kiTxvis niSnis qveS.
– dabolos, amJamad ra mTavari gamowvevebis winaSea saqarTvelo da ra unda gakeTdes imisaTvis, rom es gamowvevebi ruseTma ver gamoiyenos saTavisod?
– damoukideblobis mopovebis dRidan dRemde saqarTvelo iqneba Cveni qveynis mSvidobiani da stabiluri ganviTarebis da Tu es rusuli propagandis gamo CaiSleba, fuWad CaiTvleba yvela is miRweva, rasac integraciis procesSi Cvenma qveyanam miaRwia. am yvelafriT ki mxolod erTi mxare naxavs udides sargebels – ruseTi. saqarTvelos xelisuflebam opoziciasTan erTad unda daicvas is faseuloba, rasac Cveni qveynis dasavleTisken swrafva hqvia, saWiroa am saerTo-sayovelTao miznisTvis gaerTianeba, rom davumtkicoT dasavleTs – miuxedavad Cvens qveyanaSi Seqmnili Sidapolitikuri gaurkvevlobisa Tu daZabulobisa, Cveni swrafva dasavleTisken ucvlelia!

