ქეთი ჯოლბორდი: უთქმელი სიტყვის სიკეთე მეტია, ვიდრე ნათქვამის
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qeTi jolbordma literaturul sarbielze gamoCenisTanave miipyro yuradReba gulwrfeli leqsebiT, Rrma azrovnebiTa da erudiciiT. Cveni gazeTis mkiTxveli mas icnobs – igi aWaraSi gamarTuli poeziis festivalis `ze-karTan~ warmatebuli monawilea. mis mimarT interesma am niWier qalbatonTan saubrisTvis ganmawyo. maS, ase, Cveni stumaria qeTi jolbordi.
– amJamad Tqvens SemoqmedebiT saqmianobaSi ra siaxleebia, ras unda elodos mkiTxveli?
– am etapze, literaturis magistraturas veuflebi da, SeiZleba iTqvas, drois umetes nawils literaturul kritikas vuTmob, magram aris momentebi, rodesac SemoqmedebiT impulsebs ver vakontrolebT, Sinagani xma yovelTvis ipovis xolme dros da sivrces gamoxatvisTvis. iciT, rom verlibris xazs mivyvebi, Tumca arafers gamovricxav, rac SeiZleba SemoqmedebiT stils Seexos. siaxleebs vgegmav, rasakvirvelia, Tumca jerjerobiT zusti formiT ver da ar vprognozireb, dros davelodoT.
– cnobilma prozaikosma, profesorma giorgi sosiaSvilma dawera ese (`elvis qveS, naTliani TvalebiT~), sadac Tqveni SemoqmedebiTi diskursi warmoadgina. aseve cnobilma literatorma da mecnierma rostom CxeiZem Tqvenze STambeWdavi werili (`qeTi jolbordis lirikuli rkali~) dawera. ramdenad mniSvnelovani da moulodneli iyo es TqvenTvis?
– xandaxan mgonia, rom lokalur gancdebze vwer, Tumca is gza yovelTvis Ria rCeba, sadac mkiTxveli unda Semovides. swored am gzis arseboba ganixiles batonma giorgim da batonma rostomma. rodesac aseTi donis literatorebi, mwerlebi Senze weren, Sens SemoqmedebiT laboratoriaSi Semodian da cdiloben literaturul sazogadoebas Seni Semoqmedeba kidev ufro mkafio konteqstebiT warudginon, rasakvirvelia, Zalian mniSvnelovania, upirvelesad, SemoqmedebiTi zrdis, dafiqrebis TvalsazrisiT. kidev erTxel gamovTqvam madlierebas maTi misamarTiT. avtorisTvis sasicocxlo arteriasaviTaa imis SegrZneba da codna, rom misi xma gaigones.
– am ramdenime xnis win aWaras stumrobdiT, monawileobdiT literaturul festivalSi ,,ze-karTan~. . .
– festivalis es sami dRe iyo Cemi cxovrebis bolo periodis yvelaze STambeWdavi Semodgoma. msgavsi RonisZiebebi mniSvnelovania, upirvelesad, regionaluri decentralizaciis TvalsazrisiT, saganmanaTleblo daniSnulebiT da Semdgom avtorebisTvis, ramdenadac, sainteresoa saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxis monaxuleba, literaturuli saubrebis gamarTva da STagonebis miReba. festivalze gavicani Zalian saintereso adamianebi, iyo udidesi energetika, simSvide, lirika, inspiracia da am yvelafris fonze, gaviazre saqarTvelos kulturuli konteqsti. kidev erTxel didi madloba festivalis damaarsebels, baton vaxtang beriZes da festivalis yvela gulSematkivars am SesaniSnavi SesaZleblobisTvis. festivals ,,ze-karTan~ vusurveb warmatebebs.
– rodis gaiRviZa TqvenSi poetma, ra aris Tqveni STagonebis wyaro?
– sawyisi drois gaxseneba, albaT, gamiWirdeba. es poeturi kodirebebi TiTqos mudmivad lavireben qvecnobierSi da iqidan periodulad mJRavndebian. STagonebad SeiZleba nebismieri ram meqces, sityvebi iqcevian xolme ualternativo sayrdenad da grZnob, rogori didi gamoRviZebaa poezia sakuTar TavTan dapirispirebis ZilSi.
– cxovrebiseulma gamocdilebam ra gaswavlaT? rogoria samyaro Tqveni Tvalsawieridan?
– cxovrebas ramden rames vabralebT. . . advilia, ara? ver gvepasuxeba, Tavs ver imarTlebs. . . vfiqrob, nebismieri gansacdeli Tavad unda movineloT, ise mSrali, SeiZleba – ki, magram sufTa ver amovalT wylidan. am yvelafris paralelurad garkveuli Tvisebebis, unarebis gamomuSaveba gviwevs. roca gonebaSi rentgeniviT intuicia gaqvs Cayolebuli, ukve nebismier gamowvevas simSvidiT xvdebi.
– warmateba da dafaseba – ori mniSvnelovani faqtoria, ras fiqrobT amaze?
– adamianis mamoZravebeli Zala im saqmis keTebaa, romelic ,,misia~, miuxedavad imisa, ramxela Zalisxmevas moiTxovs es saqme pirovnebisgan. warmateba moaqvs principebs da Cvevebs, romelic integrirebulia saqmis mimarT Cvens damokidebulebasTan. adamianTa umetesobas miaCnia, rom warmateba aris jildo da ara miRweuli Sedegi. CemTvis mTavaria, yoveldRiuri miRwevebis xarisxi, amitomac process vaniWeb upiratesobas. warmatebis miRweva sulac ar niSnavs xalxis keTilganwyobis mopovebas. erTaderTi, rasac warmateba garantirebulad moitans, aris is, rom Tavs bednierad igrZnob. aRiareba da dafaseba samyaros pasuxia, amitom Sedegma TviTon ilaparakos.
– fiqri da ocneba – es sulis bilikebia? CagvaxedeT Tqvens sulSi prozaulad, mere – leqsiT. . .
– fiqri nebismieri wamis gaxangrZlivebaa, isaa samyarosTan urTierTgamorkvevis gza da avtoTerapiac. fiqrisa da emociis performansi yvelaze axlobeli mocemulobaa CemTvis, vidre ocneba.
,,nu SemewinaaRmdegebi,
Tu egoizmi ara, maSin raa,
rodesac yoveli wuxilis
gamoSvebis Semdeg,
Sorisdebul galavnebs amoiyvan,
daviwyebis unaric
pirdapir madliviT da
TavSi Caketvis sirTule,
sinonimiviT Semogarsdeba.
aba, rogorRa mogisminon,
aba, rogor gaigon…
Sesabamisad, mainc didi SeRavaTia,
RmerTis gverdiT rom gsurdes da
amdros cis gadasawmendad gagiSvan,
gamoekidebi qars,
Rrublebis gaqrobas Seecdebi.
amis Semdeg
simkveTre ufro damRlelia da
suli TiTqos ufunqcio,
Tu Tvalebidan ar amovida.
Tu am da sxva molodinze
enawarTmeulma xmovnebma ver giTxres,
fiqrebma mainc rogor ar giambon
mudmivad im sityvis Ziebaze,
romelic orives aucileblad
gadagvarCenda~.
– natvra, romelic mudam Tan gdevT. . .
– adamianebs metad gvesmodes erTmaneTis.
– vin arian Tqveni maswavleblebi (megobrebi, mwerlebi, wignebi), romlebmac Tqveni suli gaaZlieres?
– yoveli wami raRacis maniSnebelia, romelsac SeiZleba megobaric, mweralic, wignic marTavdes. komunikacia aris umniSvnelovanesi CemTvis, bevr rames maswavlis, pirvel rigSi, sakuTar Tavs aRmomaCeninebs xolme sxva adamianebTan mimarTebaSi. myavs ramdenime CemTvis Zalian axlobeli megobari mwerali, romlebTanac urTierToba, emociis garkveul fazaSi mSvelis da maZlierebs.
– yvelaze metad ras afasebT da ra gizidavT adamianebSi, bunebaSi?
– gulwrfel atmosferos, daxvewil iumors, moTminebas da mSvid auras. bunebas rac Seexeba, misi yoveli gaelveba xom saswaulia –
,,ara qariSxlebi, Camwkrivebulni,
isini sulis nakawrebs toveben,
martoobis aRmosaCenad am aivanze,
sadac TanagrZnobis formaa wvima
da mxolod gamocdili qaris
monaxuleba ise saWiro,
TmaSi yvavilebis Tayvaniscema
rom bunebas miawero,
an da esTetikis mizidulobas. . .~.
– kosmosi, samyaro da Tqven. . .
– Cemi lokaluri urTierToba samyarosTan bolo periodSi ufro SeTanxmebuli gaxda, ukeT gvesmis erTmaneTis. vakvirdebi, rom ra gzavnilsac vugzavni samyaros, TiTqos zusti instruqtaJiT sruldeba. SeiZleba es, ubralod, damTxvevaa, magram sityvas rom didi Zala aqvs, mgoni kacobrioba didi xania SeTanxmda ukve.
– pandemiam ra Secvala Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– radikaluri cvlilebebi ar moutania imis garda, rom meti sifrTxile maswavla. Tumca es mudmivad daWimuli poza, distancia, Zalian damRlelia adamianebTan urTierTobaSi.
– dabolos, CaTvaleT, rom RmerTi gismenT (asec aris), ras etyodiT mas?
– uiliam folkners aqvs aseTi fraza: ..Cven varT is, razec vdumvarT~. dumili, romelsac CemTvis mudam sasurveli siCume moaqvs, aris is sulieri da fizikuri mdgomareoba, rodesac RmerTi ki ar mismens, RmerTi mgrZnobs da piriqiT. . . aq sityvebi uZluria. uTqmeli sityvis sikeTe metia, vidre naTqvamis.
