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SarSan opoziciuri partiebis umravlesobam, romlebmac sadeputato mandatebi 2020 wlis saparlamento arCevnebis Sedegad miiRo, arCevnebi gayalbebulad gamoacxada da centralur saarCevno komisias Tavisi partiuli siebi gaauqmebina
kanonis `moqalaqeTa politikuri gaerTianebebis Sesaxeb~ Tanaxmad, partia saqarTvelos saxelmwifo biujetidan dafinansebis uflebas kargavs, Tu aRniSnuli partiis mier wardgenil parlamentis wevrTa naxevars an naxevarze mets uflebamosileba vadamde Seuwydeba da maTi Secvlis SesaZlebloba ar aris.
partia `lelo~ parlamentSi oTxi deputatiT iyo warmodgenili. erT-erTis – mamuka xazaraZis sadeputato uflebamosileba gasuli wlis noemberSi Sewyda. xazaraZem mandatze uari adgilobrivi arCevnebis meore turis Semdeg, protestis niSnad Tqva. rac Seexeba badri jafariZes, mis SemTxvevaSi mizezi sasamarTlos ganaCeni aRmoCnda.
gTavazobT intervius `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ baTumis organizaciis Tavmjdomare geno TebiZesTan.
– rogor SeafasebT sakuTari partiis reitings?
– vfiqrob, dRes `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ yvelasTvis saintereso politikuri Zalaa, rac TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi miRebuli SedegiTac damtkicda. partia axlac agrZelebs ganviTarebas da gaZlierebas, eleqtoratis matebac aSkaraa. rac Seexeba reitings, Cveni popularoba kargad Cans, Tundac megobari qveynebis elCebis SexvedrebiT, miwvevebiT da im dialogebiT, rasac Cveni partiis liderebTan awarmoeben. rac Seexeba opozicias, `lelo~ rom am ZalTa TanafardobaSi erT-erTi msxvili, wamyvani moTamaSea, iqidanac Cans, rom yvela procesSi vmonawileobT, sityva gveTqmis, radgan yvelam gvaRiara rogorc Zlieri, uryevi politikuri Zala. Tamamad SeiZleba ganvacxadoT, rom davimkvidreT sakuTari niSa qarTul politikur speqtrSi.
– TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebSi ra Sedegebi gqondaT?
– 25 municipalitetis sakrebuloSi SeviyvaneT sakrebulos wevrebi. aseve walenjixaSi sakrebulos Tavmjdomaris moadgiled airCies `lelos~ wevri. ramdenime sakrebuloSi `lelos~ fraqciac ki Camoyalibda. axla velodebiT, ra procesebi warimarTeba baTumSi.
– risi imedi gaqvT?
– rogorc iciT, baTumis sakrebuloSi 4 politikuri Zalaa warmodgenili. `ocneba~, enm, gaxarias gundi da `lelo~. esec metyvelebs Cvens warmatebaze. baTumi meore politikuri centria saqarTveloSi da Tu ramdenad mniSvnelovani iyo am sakrebuloSi Cveni warmomadgenlis Sesvla, calke salaparako Temaa. Cven gvendoba amomrCeveli da surs, maTi moTxovnebi mmarTvel gunds sxva opoziciur partiebTan erTad, Cvenc warvudginoT.
– am etapze ra ZiriTadi problemebi gaqvT?
– Cven or frontze gviwevs brZola. erTi mxriv, samarTliani arCevnebis Casatareblad da Sarl miSelis dokumentiT miRweuli SeTanxmebis dasacavad. xelisufleba am process xelovnurad aWianurebs marTvis sadaveebis SesanarCuneblad da cdilobs bolomde ar miiyvanos. amis miuxedavad, `lelo~ agrZelebs brZolas rogorc sakanonmdeblo organoebSi, ise protestis xelmisawvdomi formebiT. brZola aucilebelia, raTa Cveni qveyana myarad, garantirebulad dadges evroatlantikuri momavlisken mimarTul relsebze. aqedan gamomdinare, gviwevs demokratiuli, samarTliani qveynis SenebisTvis maqsimalurad daxarjva da mTeli resursis gamoyeneba.
– igives ar cdilobs xelisufleba?
– ara, amaSi eWvi safuZvlianad gvepareba, radgan saqarTvelos evroatlantikur gaerTianebaSi Sesvlas safrTxe aSkarad emuqreba. saqarTvelos imiji Seelaxa dasavleTis TvalSi. Cveni liderebis Casvlac kievSi saqarTvelos mimarT arsebuli keTilganwyobis SenarCunebas emsaxureboda. albaT Tavad naxeT, ra pozitiuri gamoxmaureba mohyva am vizits aramarto ukrainisgan, sxva megobari qveynebisganac.
– meore frontSi ras gulisxmobdiT – mamuka xazaraZis da badri jafariZis sasamarTlo process?
– diax, aqac gviwevs `qarTuli ocnebis~ mizanmimarTuli agresiisgan Tavis dacva. fulis gaTeTrebasTan dakavSirebuli braldebebi ver daamtkica sasamarTlom da yovelgvari mtkicebulebis da samarTlebrivi normebis, procedurebis dacvis gareSe, sarCels kvalifikacia Seucvala TaRliTobis muxliT, rac maSinve gaasaCivres Cvenma liderebma. maTive TqmiT, esec sapnis buStiviT gaqreba, rogorc wina braldeba. `qarTul ocnebas~ es braldeba Tavisi mzakvruli gegmis gansaxorcieleblad sWirdeba. xelCasaWidi araferi aqvT, TiTidan gamowovili braldebaa da amiT sjian. anu, Tuki parlamentSi Sesuli oTxi deputatis ricxvi ganaxevrdeba, `lelo~ dakargavs dafinansebas. mogexsenebaT, mamuka xazaraZem uari Tqva parlamentze, radgan arCevnebi gayalbebulad CaTvala. Tanac, yvela politikur partias Tavis droze Caxsnili aqvs siebi, rac ar gvaZlevs sxva deputatiT xazaraZis Canacvlebis uflebas. jafariZis saqmec swored amitom wamoiwyes, rom misTvisac bralis wayenebis gamo, SeewyvitaT deputatis uflebamosileba. axla velodebiT sesias, sadac gadawydeba `lelos~ dafinansebis Sewyveta-arSewyvetis sakiTxi.
– baTumis sakrebuloSi tardeba Sualeduri arCevnebi. . .
– saolqo komisiaSi Sesuli Cveni wevrebi principulad, maqsimalurad daicaven opoziciis xmebs. yvelafers gavakeTebT, raTa gonios olqSi samarTlianad, Riad, gamWvirvaled Catardes Sualeduri arCevnebi. vsargeblob SemTxveviT da movuwodeb am ubnis mcxovreblebs: Tu surT, baTums hyavdes opoziciuri sakrebulo, xma miscen opoziciis kandidats. gaxsovT, rom arCevnebis Semdeg, opoziciis 19 kandidati hyavda sakrebulos. am dros Camovida irakli kobaxiZe da xmamaRla ganacxada, rom baTumis sakrebulo mainc maTi iqneboda. amis Semdeg daiwyes aqtiuroba, gaxarias gundis wevri gadaibires, nugzar futkaraZis dayolieba ver SesZles, magram adamiani gardaicvala aseTi zewolis Sedegad. dagvrCa ZalTa Tanafardoba – 17X17-ze. swored imitomaa aucilebeli opoziciis kandidatis mxardaWera, qalaqs Tavdapirvelad miRebuli opoziciuri statusi rom aRudges. am konkretul olqs SeuZlia gansazRvros baTumis ganviTarebis saukeTeso perspeqtivebi.
– ratom migaCniaT, rom opoziciuri sakrebulo ukeTesad gaarTmevs Tavs baTumelTa problemebs?
– imitom, rom Cven ukve gveyoleba aRmasrulebeli xelisuflebis, meriis biujetis realurad gamkontrolebeli organo da maqsimalurad SevecdebiT, SevcvaloT fulis flangvis is meqanizmebi, romlebic kargad aqvT aTvisebuli. igive tenderebis sakiTxic gadaixedeba da saqme Cabardeba Tanabar pirobebSi tenderSi samarTlianad gamarjvebul kompaniebs.
– mmarTveli partia Tvlis, rom enm-am gagZarcvaT patara partiebi. . .
– `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~ momgebiani gaxda, rom yvela opoziciuri partia, romelic mxars ar uWers, gaaigivos `erTian nacionalur moZraobasTan~, mis qveSevrdomad warmoadginos. es dauSvebelia, miT umetes, `lelosTvis~, romelic warmoadgens damoukidebel politikur gaerTianebas Tavisi programiT da eleqtoratiT. igi mizanmimarTulad axorcielebs dasaxul amocanas – saqarTvelos xelisuflebis cvlilebas. albaT, moismineT badri jafariZis gancxadeba. igi ambobs, rom `erTi qolgis~ qveS gaerTianebas aravisTan vapirebT, varT damoukidebeli politikuri Zala da qarTul politikaSi sityvis Tqmis sakmaod didi resursi gagvaCnia. `lelo~ swored imiTaa saintereso sazogadoebisTvis, rom aravisTan apirebs `erTi qolgis~ qveS yofnas. cxadia, SeTanxmebaSi Seva yvela politikur ZalasTan, Tu amis politikuri aucilebloba iarsebebs prorusuli da oligarqiuli Zalis erTxel da samudamod dasamarcxeblad.
– gaxarias gundze ras gvetyviT? Zalian bevrma datova misi rigebi, Tumca vis mxaresaa partia `saqarTvelosTvis~, jerac ver gaarkvies.
– Zalian sainteresoa, rodesac politikaSi Semodis axali politikuri Zala. Cven maqsimalurad zomieri unda viyoT misi Sefasebisas, radgan jer kidev dakvirvebis procesSi vimyofebiT, ar viciT, ra rols iTamaSeben da rogor CaerTvebian qarTuli politikis realobaSi. amitom jer vaZlevT yvela politikur partias imis Sanss, rom opoziciur flangze gaakeTos is aqcentebi, gadadgas is nabijebi, romelic mniSvnelovania qveynisTvis. amis SesaZlebloba aqvs gaxarias partiasac, ukve warmoadgens angariSgasawev Zalas. arc isaa gamoricxuli, rom `qarTul ocnebas~ mis rigebSi hyavdes `Canergilebi~, anu jer kidev ar arian bolomde Camoyalibebuli. aqedan gamomdinare, cvlilebebic eqnebaT da imedia, sabolood daimkvidreben sakuTar adgils qarTuli politikuri speqtris opoziciur flangze. rac meti Rirseuli opoziciuri partia gveyoleba, miT ufro mravalferovani iqneba Cveni sakanonmdeblo organoebis Semadgenloba, es ki TavisTavad ganapirobebs koaliciuri mTavrobis Camoyalibebas da qveynis demokratiuli aRmSeneblobis gziT ganviTarebas.