მენტორი მასწავლებელი, აკადემიური დოქტორი – ქიძინიძეებიდან
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aWaris mTianeTis pedagogebidan qiZiniZeebis sajaro skolis maswavlebeli roman abaSiZe erTaderTia, romelsac akademiuri doqtoris xarisxi aqvs da mentoris wodebas atarebs. igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– batono roman, wlebia, dawyebiTi klasebis maswavleblad muSaobT. ram ganapiroba, rom doqtoris xarisxis mopovebaze daiwyeT fiqri?
– 1992 wels Caviricxe baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis dawyebiTi ganaTlebis, pedagogikisa da meTodikis fakultetze. davamTavre 1997 wels warCinebiT. leqtorebi meubnebodnen, rom gamaCnda mecnieruli kvleva-ZiebisTvis yvela saWiro unari. Sesabamisad, es iyo erT-erTi seriozuli stimuli. meorec is, rom nebismier adamians unda ainteresebdes, sad gadis misi SesaZleblobebis zRvari.
– mTis sofelSi darCena da muSaoba ratom gadawyviteT?
– mamaCemi wlebis ganmavlobaSi muSaobda pedagogad. Cemi Zmebi, rZlebi maswavleblebi arian. erTia interesTa sfero da meore – garemo, romelic am interesis ganviTarebas uwyobs xels. amasTan, Cemi mTeli arseboba sofelTanaa dakavSirebuli, rogorc ityvian, Cemi `meqa~ sofelia. vfiqrob, adamiani iq unda cxovrobdes, sadac met sulier Svebas naxulobs. amasTan, acnobiereb, rom SegiZlia Seni gamocdilebis, inteleqtualuri SesaZleblobebis nawili gadasce Seni soflis moswavleebs, swori gzis povnasa da sakuTari Tavis realizaciaSi daexmaro. . . es aranakleb sapasuxismgeblo misiaa.
– ra iyo Tqveni sadisertacio naSromis Tema?
– es iyo `saskolo ganaTlebis sistemis formireba aWaraSi 1878-1921 ww~. naTlad davinaxe mocemuli periodisTvis Cemi kuTxis saskolo ganaTlebis istoriis Zalian bevri wvrilmani. siRrmiseulad davinaxe, Tu ra SeuZlia swor meTodologiaze dafuZnebul ganaTlebis sistemas erovnuli cnobierebis ganmtkicebisaTvis im pirobebSic ki, roca religiuri faqtorebi, ucxo qveynis interesebi mkveTr winaaRmdegobaSi modis Seni qveynis saxelmwifoebriv interesebTan.
– axalbeda mecnierebi gzamkvlevis rolsa da Tanadgomas yovelTvis afaseben. . .
– 1999 wels Caviricxe iakob gogebaSvilis saxelobis pedagogikis kvleviTi institutis aspiranturaSi. mecnier-xelmZRvaneli iyo profesori giorgi kvantaliani. rogorc mama patronobs sakuTar Svils, ase damidga gverdiT jer kidev gamoucdel axalgazrdas. es adamiani iyo humanisti, namdvili inteligenti da CemTvis mudmivi stimulis momcemi. 2003 wels sadisertacio naSromma warmatebiT gaiara aprobacia, velodebodiT uaxloes momavalSi disertaciis dacvis dRes, roca sruliad moulodnelad gardaicvala. ver moeswro sakuTari disertantis akademiur xarisxs. Cems xsovnaSi misi Rvawli da adamianuri saxe ar gafermkrTalebula dResac.
– swavlaSi, mecnierul moRvaweobaSi daxarjuli dro da energia wlebis Semdgom hpovebs gamoZaxils. . .
– politikisgan yovelTvis Sors videqi da Sors vdgavar dResac. realoba adasturebs, rom arcerT xelisufals ise ar uzrunia pedagogis Sromis dafasebaze, rogorc amJamindels. maswavlebels saqarTveloSi Tavis qveyanaze ukeT arasdros ucxovria da Rirseulad amarTlebda sakuTar socialur statuss. kargi maswavleblis Rvawli fasdaudebelia. me kmayofili var Cemi anazRaurebiT. rogorc ityvian, vyofni jamagirs da uflis madlobeli var.
– mTis soflebi carieldeba. gamonaklisi arc qiZiniZeebia. moswavleTa kontingentic mcirdeba. sxva skolas airCevT Tu umaRles saswavlebels?
– uaxloes momavalSi skolis arsebobas safrTxe ar emuqreba. vfiqrob, dRes iq var, sadac unda viyo. dro miCvenebs, rogor moviqce, miT umetes mSobliur skolaSi muSaobis paralelurad, xiWauris wminda abuserisZe tbelis saxelobis saswavlo universitetSi var asocirebuli profesoris Tanamdebobaze.
– Svilebs ras urCevT?
– mecnieruli mwvervalebisken svlas. es sfero adamians yvelaze metad aZlevs saSualebas, darCes adamianad da sazogadoebis demokratiul gardaqmnazec moaxdinos seriozuli gavlena.
– sakmao pedagogiuri praqtika dagigrovdaT. Tu gaixsenebT gzasacdenil aRsazrdels, romelic sazogadoebas daubruneT?
– msgavsi SemTxveva ar maxsendeba. Tumca aris momenti, roca saWiroa moswavlis qcevaSi garkveuli koreqcia Seitano.
– mentoris wodebis mopoveba iyo ioli Tu akademiuri doqtoris xarisxisa?
– arc erTia martivi da arc meore.
– dasaxuli miznis misaRwevad raa mTavari?
– niWi, cnobismoyvareoba, mizandasaxuloba, Sroma. ainStains minda davesesxo: `me ar gamaCnia aranairi gamorCeuli niWi (albaT, Tavi daifasa), var cnobismoyvare, maqvs viris sijiute da miyvars Sroma~.
– pesimisti xarT Tu optimisti?
– warmatebul momavalze fiqri optimizmis gareSe warmoudgenelia. Tumca nebismieri adamianis cxovreba xandaxan sevdisferia da amqveyniuri amaoebis gancda cxovrebis sxvadasxva monakveTSi droebiT mainc gagiCens pesimizmis msgavs grZnobas. es bunebriv procesad mimaCnia. arc me var gamonaklisi, Tumca cxovrebiseuli miznebi pesimizmisTvis nakleb dros mitovebs.
– kuriozi. . .
– erTs gavixseneb: pirvel klasSi moswavleTa codnis dones varkvev maTematikaSi, raTa amis mixedviT warvmarTo muSaoba. is moswavle Cemi axlobelia. vekiTxebi, `aba, ramdenia, sams mivumatoT ori?~. iseTi gamometyveleba miviRe, TiTqos ar vicodi da daxmarebas mas vTxovdi. miyurebs gaocebuli da meubneba: `maswavlebelo, sams mimatebuli ori Tu ar ici ramdenia, skolaSi ra ginda maswavleblad?~.
– sxalTis xeobaSi gamonaxeT gulisswori. mareTeli da sxalTeli erTmaneTs ra viTarebaSi gaecaniT?
– sxalTa-xixaZiris xeoba odiTganve ganTqmuli iyo uZvelesi qarTuli tradiciebiT. Cemma ufrosma Zmam arCevani am xeobis mkvidrze, kvatiaSi mcxovreb qaliSvilze gaakeTa. kargi ojaxi Seqmnes. Cemi meuRlec ufrosi rZlis naTesavia. marTalia, Tavdapirvelad raRac gansakuTrebuli romantikuli urTierToba ar gvqonia, ise davqorwindiT, magram dRes samagaliTo ojaxi gvyavs, kmayofili varT erTmaneTiT da sam Svils vuzrdiT qveyanas.
– raa mTavari ojaxis simtkicisTvis?
– siyvaruli da albaT, meti unari imisa, rom meuRle miiRo iseTi, rogoric realobaSia.
– wignze muSaobT. raa misi dedaarsi?
– skola da pedagogika, aRmzrdeli da aRsazrdeli.
– marTlmadideblobasTan ziarebuli, aRsarebas vis abarebT?
– wlebis win davubrundi Cvens ZirZvel sarwmunoebas. patriarqi iyo CamobrZanebuli xuloSi da iq movinaTle. vfiqrob, nebismieri socialuri statusi, regalia muxls idreks WeSmariti adamianobis winaSe, es regaliebi CemTvis saSualebaa, ukeTesad Sevasrulo Cemi adamianuri misia. aRsarebasac sxalTis eparqiis mRvdelmsaxurebs vabareb.
– orguls da matyuaras Tu hguobT?
– ara da, ara mxolod maT, nebismieri araadamianuri qceva CemTvis miuRebelia. miT umetes, moCvenebiToba droebiTia da vin rogor niRabs irgebs, male gacxaddeba.
– maswavlebeli, romlis rols gamorCeulad afasebT.
– bevrze SeiZleba saubari. magram mainc, skolaSi roza mukutaZes davasaxelebdi, universitetSi, Cemi profesiis mimarTulebiT – nodar basilaZes, iuri bibileiSvils.
– patriarqi WeSmarit marTmadideblebs mouwodebs, yovelwliurad 10-12 Ziri xe dargon.
– soflis cxovrebaSi aqtiurad var CarTuli. vcdilob, patriarqis es mowodeba aqtiurad Sevasrulo.
– daxmarebis xels vis TxovdiT?
– albaT imas, vinc meimedeba da mzadaa, uangarod damidges gverdiT.
– Tu gadagirCeniaT gansacdelSi myofi?
– sakuTar Tavze aRmatebuli xarisxiT saubari ar mCvevia. Cems cxovrebaSic iyvnen albaT, adamianebi, romlebisTvisac gansacdelis Jams swori gza miCvenebia. konkretuli magaliTebis dasaxelebisgan ki Tavs Sevikavebdi.
– rodis xarT bednieri?
– roca mSvidobaa, roca Cem irgvliv bevr bednier adamians vxedav, roca ukeTesad vaxden sakuTari Tavis realizebas. . .
– weliwadis romeli dro giyvarT?
– gazafxuli.
– ra alamazebs adamians?
– Tavmdabloba.
– rogorc vici, fexburTi isev gitacebT. . .
– fexburTi CemTvis sportis usayvarlesi saxeobaa. wlebis ganmavlobaSi Tavadac vTamaSobdi da arcTu ise cudad. amJamad ufro gulSematkivrobiT Semovifarglebi.
– gazafxulis dResaswaulebs vis ulocavT?
– marti, Tavisi Wirveulobis miuxedavad, ramdenime dResaswauls aerTianebs. upirvelesad, dedis dRes sakuTar meuRles vulocav (dedaCemi 2003 wels gardaicvala, Torem is iqneboda Cemi milocvis pirveli adresati).
– dedis Semdeg vin Semovida Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– deda Seucvlelia, magram arseboben adamianebi, romlebic garkveulwilad ikaveben am adgils. Tamamad davasaxeleb deidaCems – naTela miqelaZes, romelsac dedis surneli asdis.
– skola, universiteti, sazogadoeba, Tanasoflelebi Tanadgomas ar gakleben. Tqven riTi uxdiT samagieros?
– sofel qiZiniZeebSi megobruli, iumoriT daxunZluli atmosfero rom ar iyos, ver SevZlebdi aq gaCerebas. sofeli mxolod geografiuli mocemuloba ar aris, xalxia upirvelesad, mniSvnelovani. Cemi pirovnebis Zalian bevri Tviseba swored aq mcxovreb mosaxleobas ukavSirdeba. maqsimalurad vcdilob, maT gverdiT vidge Wirsa Tu lxinSi.
– ra Temaze kiTxulobT leqciebs xiWauris universitetSi?
– 2011 wels, sxalTis eparqiis mTavarepiskoposis meufe spiridonis (madloba minda gadavuxado) locva-kurTxeviT daviwye muSaoba saqarTvelos sapatriarqos xiWauris wminda abuserisZe tbelis saxelobis saswavlo universitetSi. wlebis ganmavlobaSi leqciebis kurss vkiTxulob: `ganaTlebis fsiqologiaSi~, `swavlebisa da Sefasebis inovaciur meTodebSi~, `saswavlo da profesiul garemoSi~.
