,,ქალები და ბავშვები მოდიან, დაღლილები, უძილოები, დაუძლურებულები, რა მტრები, რის აგრესორები… მსგავსი არაფერია”
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roca gairkva, rom ruseTi, misTvis dawesebuli sanqciebis gamo Tu sxva mizeziT, aTasobiT adamianma datova da umravlesobam saqarTveloSi Camosvla arCia, qarTuli sazogadoebis erTma nawilma maSinve daiwyo mwvave mowodebebi – ar miaqiraoT binebi rusebs, ar moemsaxuroT, ar daelaparakoT rusulad, esaubreT inglisurad, SeuqmeniT diskomforti, agrZnobineT, rom mxars ukrainas uWerT. . .
am kampaniur mowodebas maleve mohyva sazogadoebis meore nawilis gafrTxilebac qsenofobiis safrTxeze. msjelobdnen imaze, romelia protestis swori forma. gaCnda pasuxebi kiTxvazec, ratom vSfoTavT, ra SeiZleba mohyves am masobriv migracias saqarTvelosTvis da sxva. sad gadis zRvari brazsa da mxardaWeras Soris ise, rom arc siZulvili mogerios da arc qsenofobiis safrTxis win aRmoCnde?
rogorc vTqviT, sazogadoebis erTi nawili Tvlis, rom agresoris qveynidan wamosul adamianebs ar unda miaqirao bina, maSin rodesac meore nawili angarebiT moqmedebs da sammag, xan ki xuTmagad aqiravebs binebs rusebze.
ras amboben maklerebi?
gavesaubreT uZravi qonebis gayidvebis agentebs, romlebmac bazarze arsebuli, sakmaod saintereso suraTi warmogvidgines. maTi umetesoba Tvlis, rom rusebi da belarusebi gamoeqcnen putinis reJims da aq Camovidnen, radgan gvicnobdnen, rogorc stumarTmoyvare qveyanas.
mayvala davlaZe: – aTi welia, uZravi qonebis agenti var, Zalian bevri ram minaxavs, bevric gamigia, magram rac axla xdeba, sruliad axali realobis winaSe gvayenebs. xalxis amxela nakadi, romelic eZebs binebs saqiraveblad, arasdros yofila. Tan, kargad iciT, rogori damokidebuleba aqvT Tavad binis mepatroneebs – zogierTi winaaRmdegia, rusebs bina miaqiraos, zogi ki imxela fass adebs, simarTle giTxraT, merideba kidec gaJRereba. viciT, rom ruseT-ukrainis sisxlismRvreli omi mimdinareobs. isic viciT, rom ruseTi agresori da okupantia, magram is ver gavige, aq Camosulebs ras erCian. isini xom im diqtators da okupants gamoeqcnen, visac axla mTeli civilizebuli samyaro ewinaaRmdegeba da sxvadasxva sanqciiT cdilobs mis daCoqebas. me var qarTveli poeti qali, CemTvis patriotizmi ar aris litoni sityvebi. is, rom uZravi qonebis agenti var, ar niSnavs, fulis gamo yvelaferze waval. Tumca ar SemiZlia ar aRvniSno sakuTari moqalaqeebis angareba. bevri, patriotizmze rom akeTebs aqcents, sakuTar qarTvelebs uZvirebs binebs da iseT Tanxas iTxovs, aranair ganzomilebaSi rom ar jdeba. an igive rusebi da belarusebi, romlebmac me mommarTes, yvela xom ar aris mteri? iseTi gasacodavebuli Camovidnen belarusebi, Zlivs gamoveqeciT xelisuflebis devnaso, rom Zalian Semecodnen. ojaxebiT Camodian. vin wamoiyvans col-Svils mexuTe kolonis Sesaqmnelad? es saerTod absurdul idead mimaCnia. putins rom moundes CvenTan omi, ra kolona dasWirdeba, gamoiseirnebs, 2008-Si rom Semovida ise da ramdeni Cveni axalgazrdac ar unda Seawydes, mainc verafers gavxdebiT. yvela Camosuli meubneba, rom aris opozicia, surs aq droebiT cxovreba – 2-3 TviT, gadaixdis nebismier Tanxas, ra unda vuTxra, rom Cven mtrebad migvaCnia da ver davexmarebiT? me ar vexmarebi uSualod moskovidan Camosulebs, belarusebs vRebulob da iq rac xdeba da putinma rogor gamouval mdgomareobaSic Caagdo es xalxi, yvelam viciT. Tan Semovidnen saqarTveloSi Zalian rTulad, zogi poloneTis gavliT da zogic – stambolis. iseT werilebs mwerdnen, rom vtirodi mTeli Rameebi. ar SeiZleba, ase xelaRebiT yvela erT qvabSi moxarSo da mtrad Seracxo. qalebi da bavSvebi modian, daRlilebi, uZiloebi, dauZlurebulebi. ra mtrebi, ris agresorebi. . . msgavsi araferia. ra xdeba socialur qselebSi, albaT, Tavad kiTxulobT. iseTi gaborotebuli da gaavebulia xalxi, maTi ufro SegeSindeba, vidre aq Camosuli rusebis da belarusebis. qarTvelebma saxe ar unda davkargoT. es aris mTavari, swored aq ikiTxeba patriotizmi da sakuTari eris siyvaruli. Cven qristianebi varT, qarTvelebi, nu daviviwyebT, saidan movdivarT da ra gorisa varT. agresors Tavad nu davemsgavsebiT.
vaxtang cokilauri, gayidvebis menejeri: – Cveni kompania `kopala~ mxolod sakuTar klientebze zrunavs, aqedan gamomdinare, veridebiT ruseTisa da belarusis moqalaqeebisTvis binis miqiravebas an migiravebas. simarTle giTxraT, Tavad maTi erovnebac gvayenebs negatiuri emociebis winaSe. binebis gamqiraveblebi gvafrTxileben, rom rusebi ar vuxsenoT. rac Seexeba safrTxes, arsebobs kanoni, romlis gaTvaliswinebiT mdgmurs aqvs ufleba, qiris gadauxdelad icxovros binaSi, sanam mepatrone sasamarTloSi ar Seitans sarCels misi gamosaxlebis TxovniT. kargad iciT, rom am SemTxvevaSi ikargeba ramdenime Tve, Sesabamisad, gamqiravebeli kargavs Tanxas. albaT, amis gamo eridebian rusebisTvis binebis miqiravebas. ramdenime rusi moqalaqe Semexmiana, magram uariT gavistumre. gnebavT es patriotizmSi CamomarTviT, gnebavT – profesionalizmSi. Cvens kompanias gadawyvetili aqvs, uari uTxras rusebs yvelanairi servisis miwodebaze da es ar migvaCnia qsenofobiad. ruseT-ukrainis sisxlismRvreli omi yvela CvenganSi iwvevs protests ruseTis agresiis da misi diqtatori prezidentis winaSe. es unda igrZnos rusma xalxma da Tavad gadaayenos putini. aq Camosulebi amboben, opozicia varT da gamoveqeciTo, magram wamosvlas sjobia, ebrZolon putinis reJims da mTeli msoflio gaaTavisuflon misgan. saqarTvelos teritoriebis 20% waiRes da kidev aq unda CavasaxloT? aRar eyoT qarTuli miwebi, sadac Tavad arian ganlagebuli?!
berdia arabuli, gayidvebis menejeri: – rusebi ki mogvmarTaven, magram ar vexmarebi. mepatroneebs ar surT gaqiraveba, rusebs ar SevuSvebTo. rodesac vurekav da veubnebi, rom rus moqalaqeebs surT qiraoba, mlanZRaven. Tanac xma gavarda baTumSi, ltolvilebs ver gamoasaxlebo. rusebic ltolvilebi gamodian, Tuki putinis reJims gamoeqcnen. icxovreben, sanam sasamarTloSi uCivleben da Semdeg gaiqcevian qveynidan, ra daamagrebT aq? ar var politikaSi CarTuli, ar mainteresebs, magram is, rac uZravi qonebis bazarze xdeba, namdvilad uCveuloa. fasebi astronomiulia, aseTi arasodes yofila, magram verc binas naxav saqiraveblad. winaaRmdegobebiTaa aRsavse urTierTobebi mepatrones da damqiravebels Soris. Zalian daZabuli viTarebaa, romelic ar viciT, raSi gadaizrdeba.
am sakiTxze vesaubreT samarTlis magistrs, saqarTvelos advokatTa asociaciis wevrs, advokat zurab cecxlaZes.
– batono zurab, ramdenad SesaZlebelia, rom mdgmurma ar dacalos bina? adre es ar iyo problema – policias gamoiZaxebdi da gajiutebuli adamiani gamohyavda patruls.
– 2012 wlamde gamosaxlebebs namdvilad awarmoebda Sinagan saqmeTa saministro mesakuTris gancxadebis safuZvelze, magram 2012 wlis Semdeg Seicvala kanoni da gamosaxleba SesaZlebeli gaxda mxolod sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebiT.
– gamodis, nebismier mdgmurs SeuZlia, Sevides binaSi da Semdeg ar gamovides ramdenime Tvis ganmavlobaSi, sanam sasamarTlos ganaCeni ar iqneba?
– aq aris meore sakiTxic, damqiravebels xels ar unda aZlevdes sasamarTloSi wasvla, vinaidan ra vadis ganmavlobaSic iqneba mis sargeblobaSi bina da ar Caabarebs mesakuTres mis sakuTrebas, imdeni Tvis ganmavlobaSi mouwevs Tanxis gadaxda. sasamarTlo daakisrebs amas.
– ramden xanSi xdeba sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis aRsruleba?
– sasamarTlos pirveli instanciis gadawyvetileba SeiZleba mieces dauyovnebliv aRsrulebas.
– rom uCivlos zeda instanciebSi?
– dros imiT ver gawelavs, rom sasamarTlos zeda instanciebSi idavebs. Tanac, rogorc giTxariT, damqiravebels ar unda aZlevdes xels binaSi darCena, vinaidan gasvla mainc mouwevs da Tanac daekisreba Tanxebi rogorc biniT sargeblobis, aseve sasamarTlosa da advokatisTvis.
– sxva gza ar arsebobs gamqiraveblisTvis Tavis dasazRvevad? am SemTxvevaSi rus moqalaqeebze gvaqvs saubari. . .
– gaqiravebisas kargi iqneba, gamqiravebelma damqiravebels depozitze daadebinos Tanxa garantiis mizniT. vinaidan Camosulebs qonebis saxiT garantiebs ver mosTxov xelSekrulebis Seusruleblobisa da binis dauclelobisTvis, kargi iqneba Tanxis depozitze dadeba da amiT garantiis Seqmna. Tu ar daclis binas, depozitze garantiis saxiT dadebuli Tanxa gamqiravebels darCeba.
rusebis pozicia
feisbuqiT davekontaqteT ramdenime russ, romlebmac gulwrfelad gviTxres, rom gmoben putinis agresias da imitom Camovidnen aq.
liubov petrova: – rusi var da dRes mrcxvenia, rom Cems qveyanas aseTi prezidenti hyavs. karga xania vibrZviT misi diqtaturis winaaRmdeg, magram verafers gavxdiT. aRar minda iq cxovreba, evropa CemTvis amomavali varskvlavia da axla, rodesac gadagveketa dasavleTis karebi, aRar davrCebi iq, sadac mxolod Zalmomreobaa. CemTvis saqarTvelo yovelTvis ganasaxierebda stumarTmoyvare qveyanas. bavSvobidan Camovdiodi aq. bevri megobari myavs, vecdebi, gamovasworo is Sexeduleba, rac putinis gamo Seiqmna Cemi eris mimarT. . . cota qarTuli vici da guli metkina, rodesac ramdenime axalgazrdam qarTulad Segvagina. Cems qaliSvils ar vuTxari, ra Tqves, Tumca verc im biWebs SevekamaTe. . . ras vizamT, unda vagoT pasuxi.
viqtor morozovi: – coli ukraineli myavs, ruseTSi vcxovrobdiT, aRar gavCerdiT iq, radgan saSineleba iyo, rasac ukrainaSi sCadiodnen Cveni `qebuli~ jaris nawilebi. rogor SeiZleba slavma slavi moklas an, saerTod, rogor SeiZleba iomo 21-e saukuneSi?! es xom barbarosobaa! pacifisti var da verasdros Sevurigdebi omebs. erTxel da samudamod unda Seignos kacobriobam, rom iaraRi ar wyvets urTierTobas, adamianTa siyvarulia saukeTeso iaraRi. mahaTma gandim uiaraRod gandevna ingliselebi indoeTidan da Cven raRa dagvemarTa? vis vklavT, ratom vklavT? ixocebian bavSvebi, qalebi, moxucebi. . . . axalgazrda biWebi. . . ar mesmis, ra surs putins, riT veRar gaZRa sisxliT, kidev ramdeni Cveni Taoba unda daxocos, rom SeaCeros es agresia?! mxolod misi sikvdili Tu gvixsnis mTel kacobriobas. mets veRarafers vityvi, mxolod patiebas viTxov ukrainelebisgan da mTeli civilizebuli samyarosgan.
petre gubaevi: – warmoSobiT osi var, magram karga xania, ruseTSi vcxovrob. aranairad ar veTanxmebi putinis politikas da arc saqarTvelo mimaCnia agresorad, rogorc amas Cemi tomis xalxi mimtkicebs. ukve didi xania, ruseTis moqalaqeebi varT. jer kidev wina saukunis dasawyisSi gadmovida moskovSi Cemi winapari, magram yovelTvis ixsenebda, rom saqarTvelo iyo Cveni samSoblo. axla iZulebuli viyavi, aq Camovsuliyavi. Jurnalisti var da aRar damedgomeboda moskovSi. pirdapir miTxres an waxval, an. . . mokled, wamosvla varCie. darwmunebuli var, didxans ar momiwevs aq darCena. agresorebi didxans ver cocxloben, putinma imaze metis ufleba misca Tavs, vidre aqamde. rogorc iqna, dasavleTi aRzevda, daiZra da ar moeSveba ruseTs, sanam ar CaZiravs. imedi maqvs, erTad davaRwevT Tavs diqtaturas. axla saqarTveloSi var da mixaria, rom Cemi winaprebisgan samSoblod miCneul miwaze Camovedi. me civiluri urTierTobebis mwams da kacobriobis gonier nawilTan yofna vamjobine. mjera, yvelaferi kargad iqneba da ukraina, dasavleTi – gaimarjvebs!
mTavrobis pozicia
saqarTvelos vice-premierma, kulturis ministrma Tea wulukianma telekompania `imedis~ eTerSi qveyanaSi Semosuli ruseTis moqalaqeebis Sesaxeb ilaparaka. mas miaCnia, rom es qveynisTvis safrTxes ar warmoadgens. kulturis ministri yuradRebas amaxvilebs `qsenofobiur gancxadebebze~: `dRes rame tipis realizebadi safrTxe, gnebavT, safrTxeebi, ar arsebobs. ruseTis moqalaqeebi, romlebic Cvens qveyanaSi Semodian, Semodian kanonis iseTive mkacri wesebis dacviT, rogoric moqmedebda manamde, egreT wodebuli filtri Tu filtrebi, rac arsebobs sazRvarze. SegaxsenebT, rom am kanonis iniciatori iyo iusticiis saministro, rodesac me gaxldiT ministri. ar vici, ra ar momxvda TavSi maTi mxridan, rodesac akritikebdnen am kanons da masTan erTad – mec. kanoni SemuSavebulia policiasTan da Sesabamis sasazRvro uwyebebTan erTad. es kanoni aris Zalian kargi garantia imisTvis, rom vinc ar aris keTili ganzraxviT mosuli sazRvarTan, is ver Semodis. vinc Semodis, is araviTari problemis matarebeli ar aris. arc statistika ar aCvenebs, rom rame tipis matebaa. saSineleba xdeba am dReebSi, yvelam daiwyo eTnossa da erovnebaze saubari. eTnikurad qarTvelebi weren, rom var qarTveli, magram ar maqvs tradiciuli kavkasiuri garegnoba, Cemive Tanamoqalaqes rusi vegone da Tavs damesxa quCaSio. es aris warmoudgeneli ram. iyo aseve SemTxvevebi, rom Tavs daesxnen adamians omis partiis mier waqezebuli, an maTi partaqtivis warmomadgenlebi da aRmoCnda sulac ukraineli. aqedan gamomdinare, fobiebi gverdze unda gadavdoT, es aris sircxvili. unda ipovos am partiam Tavis TavSi Zala, rom es qsenofobiuri gancxadebebi Sewyvitos~.