“მუდმივად ვსწავლობ, რომ ვასწავლო”
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xulos 53 sajaro da saqarTvelos sapatriarqos wminda abuserisZe tbelis skolaSi 1200-mde pedagogi muSaobs. maTgan Rurtis sajaro skolis kompiuteruli teqnologiebis maswavlebeli mzia kaxaZe-iakobaZe pirvelia, romelmac mentori maswavleblis wodeba moipova. igi `aWaris~ stumaria.
– qalbatono mzia, aRiareba, mentori maswavleblis wodebis mopoveba energiul Sromas, Ziebas iTxovs . . .
– mentoris statusamde ioli gziT ar mivsulvar, albaT, yvela dameTanxmeba, rom nebismier sferoSi, warmatebis erTaderTi safuZveli mudmivi da Tavdauzogavi Sromaa. rac Seexeba gzas praqtikosobidan mentorobamde, igi 2015 wels daiwyo, rodesac maswavlebelTa profesiuli ganviTarebis sqema amoqmedda da kolegebma fasilitatorad amirCies. maSin yvelaferi axlad inergeboda da bunebrivia, uamravi pasuxgaucemeli kiTxva iyo. albaT, amitom, Cemi fasilitaciis sfero maleve gascda Cveni skolis farglebs, jer mezobeli skolebis, Semdeg municipalitetisa da garkveuli drois Semdeg saqarTvelos sxvadasxva kuTxis skolebis pedagogebis dakvalianebac miwevda – rogor daegegmaT da ganexorcielebinaT karieruli winsvla. mravalricxovan da mravalferovan kiTxvebze miwevda pasuxis gacema da rCevis micema. imdeni adamiani mommarTavda, rom gadavwyvite, socialur qselSi Semeqmna daxuruli jgufi, romelSic gawevriandeboda yvela pedagogi, visac daxmareba sWirdeboda da erTian sivrceSi gavuwevdi konsultacias. am mizniT, me da Cemma megobarma, quTaisis №36-e sajaro skolis istoriis maswavlebelma natalia TurqaZem SevqmeniT `motivirebul pedagogTa klubi~, romelSic dResdReobiT 49000-ze meti pedagogia gawevrianebuli da yvela siaxles dRemde erTad vecnobiT. marTalia, Zalze rTulia, did drosa da energias moiTxovs kvalificiurad upasuxo uamravi kolegis SekiTxvas, daexmaro daSvebuli Secdomis gamosworebaSi, miuTiTo swori gza,Amagram vgrZnob, rom mendobian, rac CemTvis Zalian bevrs niSnavs. garda imisa, rom jgufs me TviTon vuwev daxmarebas mudmiv reJimSi, aseve, vmarTav Sexvedrebs, vebinarebs, viwvevT trenerebs, jgufis roli gansakuTrebiT gaizarda kovidD-19-is pandemiisagan gamowveuli sirTuleebis dros. rodesac saswavlo procesi mTlianad gadavida distanciur swavlebaze, vatarebdiT Sexvedrebs, rom maswavleblebi dauflebodnen onlain saswavlo platformebs. survili gamoiTqva da TiTqmis erTi welia aqtiurad vTanamSromlobT saqarTvelos ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis saministrosTan zogadi ganaTlebis reformis farglebSi, CarTulebi varT mesame Taobis erovnuli saswavlo gegmis danergvis procesSi, organizebas vuwev yovelkvireul Sexvedrebs saministros sagnobriv eqspertebTan. ukve mWidro kavSiri arsebobs maswavleblebsa da saministros eqspertebs Soris. maTi daxmarebiT, bevri sirTule daZlies pedagogebma pilotirebis procesSi, romelic sakmaod pozitiur garemoSi mimdinareobs. garda amisa, Seiswavles Cemi saqmianoba adgilobriv doneze, maswavlebelTa profesiuli ganviTarebis erovnuli centris specialurma komisiam gamokiTxa mSoblebi Cemi saqmianobis Sesaxeb, esaubra skolis direqtors, kolegebs da, ra Tqma unda, mec. mokled rom vTqvaT, srulad Semamowmes da umaRlesi statusi momaniWes.
– saocari biografia gaqvT – naadrevad daojaxdiT, 28 wlisam umaRlesi ganaTleba miiReT ucxo enis specialobiT, 17 welia ki kompiuterul teqno-logiebs aswavliT. am sagnis zedmiwevniT aTviseba damatebiT muSaobas saWiroebda. amasTan, ori Svilis deda, ori SviliSvilis bebia xarT. rogor uTavsebT amas erTmaneTs?
– maRalmTian sofelSi cxovreba ioli araa, aq arseboba mxolod didi ZalisxmeviTa da mZime fizikuri SromiT aris SesaZlebeli. Tumca arCevanis winaSe – ojaxi Tu kariera, arasdros davmdgarvar. sabednierod, orives gavarTvi Tavi, radgan orive usazRvrod mi-yvars. roca giyvars, motivaciac gagaCnia, mTavari es aris. arasdros arafers SeuSlia xeli mezruna profesiul ganviTarebaze da aramarto sakuTarze. SeuZlebeli araferia. zogjer mec mikvirs, rogor vaswreb amdens, vfiqrob, rogorc karg pedagogs sCvevia, dros vanawileb sworad. saqmes, romelsac sxvebi kvireebs andomeben, me SemiZlia ramdenime saaTi movandomo, ar vici, es rogor xdeba, magram, faqtia.
– moswavleebs Tu aqvT survili kompiuterul teqnologiebs daukavSiron momavali saqmianoba?
– 21-e saukune Tanamedrove teqnologiebis gareSe warmoudgenelia. nebismieri adamianis profesia da saqmianoba gajerebulia teqnologiebiT, amitom Cemi mizania da vaRwev kidec, rom moswavleebma teqnologiebi mizanmimarTulad gamoiyenon, iyvnen konkurentunarianebi, erkveodnen Tanamedrove tendenciebSi. nebismieri maTi samomavlo saqmianoba TavisTavad dakavSirebulia teqnologiebTan. es procesi Seuqcevadia da aq, ra Tqma unda, lomis wili teqnologiebis maswavlebelze modis.
– vin iyo pirveli, vinc es wodeba mogilocaT?
– pirvelma saqarTvelos pedagogTa da mecnierTa Tavisufali profkavSiris prezidentma maia kobaxiZem momiloca. araCveulebrivi adamiania, romelic mudmivad zrunavs pedagogebis profesiul ganviTarebaze da uzomod axarebs TiToeuli Cvenganis warmateba. meoresac vityvi, barem – es iyo maswavlebelTa profesiuli ganviTarebis erovnuli centris direqtori batoni berika SukakiZe, romelmac piradad momiloca da madloba gadamixada Cvens feisbuqjgufSi aseTi farTomasStabiani proeqtebis ganxorcielebisTvis.
– Rurtis sajaro skolaSi SemdgomSi saqveynod cnobili mwerlebi, politikosebi, mecnierebi, erovnuli meurneobis aRiarebuli specialistebi aRizardnen. dRes rogor aris saqme?
– niWieri da warmatebuli moswavleebi arc axla aklia Rurtis sajaro skolas. yovelwliurad gvyavs oqrosa da vercxlis medalosnebi, bevri iricxeba sxvadasxva umaRles saswavlebelSi saxelmwifo grantebiTa da universitetebis Sida dafinansebiT. Cveni kursdamTavrebulebi warmatebiT moRvaweoben sxvadasxva sferoSi.
– aranaklebi tradiciebisaa iremaZeebis sajaro skola. iqaur kolegebsa da aRsazrdelebze ras gvetyviT?
– iremaZeebis sajaro skolam da sofelma Zalian Tbilad mimiRo da Semiyvara, araCveulebrivi koleqtivia, Zalian megobruli. rac Seexeba Cems moswa-vleebs, maTgan iseTi sufTa da dadebiTi energia modis, rom mec dadebiTad vimuxtebi.
– ojaxi Zlieri da harmoniuli rom iyos, meuRleebma rolebi Tanabrad unda gainawilon. Tqvens SemTxvevaSi rogor aris?
– ojaxi Zalian axalgazrdebma SevqmeniT, bevri sirTule Segvxvda cxovrebaSi, mas mSoblebi adre daeRupa, amitomac martos gviwevda gvezida cxovrebis Wapani, Cemi studentobis periodSi, bavSvebze TviTon zrunavda, bevrjer gvifiqria, piriqiT xom ar jobda – jer swavla da Semdeg ojaxi, magram dRevandeli gadasaxedidan vfiqrobT, rom sworad moviqeciT, radgan Cven da Cveni Svilebi TiTqmis erTi Taobis warmomadgenlebi varT, asakobrivi sxvaoba mcirea da es xels uwyobs Cvens megobrul damokidebulebas. gvaqvs erTnairi xedva da interesebi. bednieri var, rom Cemi meuRle yvelaze rTul periodSi, yovelTvis iyo da aris Cems gverdiT, arasdros SeuzRudavs CemTvis rame, piriqiT, mexmareba, rom mTeli arsebiT vakeTo saqme, romelic CemTvis umniSvnelovanesia. Cemi saqmianoba saxlSi meuRlis sasargeblod, Zalian minimaluria, Tumca arc mas aqvs bevri Tavisufali dro, Suaxevihesis proeqtis ganmaxorcielebeli kompaniis `aWariswyali jorjia~ socialuri pasuxismgeblobis farglebSi miiRo dafinanseba da gaxsna avtosaxelosno, avtonawilebis maRazia da aq saqmianobs.
– meuRlesTan erTad, vis emadlierebiT?
– Cems mSoblebs. dedas, romelic mexmareboda Svilebis gazrdaSi da mamas, romelic axalgazrdebs finansurad gvedga mxarSi. radgan meuRle adreul asakSi daoblda da mTeli pasuxismgebloba Cvens Svilebze Cemma mSoblebma aiRes Tavs, sanam studenti viyavi.
– iyos mentori, yvela pedagogis ocnebaa, rac Tqven ukve aisruleT. kidev raze ocnebobT?
– mentoris statusis mosapoveblad, mxolod ocneba ar kmara, Tavdauzogavi Sromaa saWiro. maswavleblobaze vocnebobdi da avisrule, dasaxul miznebs mivaRwie, Cemi ocnebebi ar scdeba skolis farglebs, bavSvebs dastrialebs. minda, yvela bavSvi iyos gaxarebuli da bednieri, icxovros da iswavlos usafrTxo garemoSi. axla erTaderTi ocnebaa, rac SeiZleba male dasruldes ruseT-ukrainis omi.
– Tqveni saukeTeso megobari eqimia . . .
– Cemi da Sorena cinariZis megobroba ubralo nacnobobiT daiwyo, magram Semdeg saerTo xedvebma da interesebma dagvaaxlova. Zlieri energetikis adamiania, yovelTvis axerxebs, yvelafris mimarT optimisturad ganmawyos, miuxedavad imisa, rom sxvadasxva profesiis adamianebi varT, Zalian vgavarT erTmaneTs. bevrs Sromobs, kovidganyofilebaSi muSaobs, rac dro gadis, gamocdilebasTan erTad, misi kmayofili pacientebis ricxvic matulobs. me xom vici, rogor ganicdis TiToeuli pacientis mdgomareobas. Ppandemiisas radikalurad Seicvala misi cxovrebis wesi, mudmivad gamouZinebelia, xSirad mSieric, fizikurad da emociurad daRlili. CemTvis megobroba erTmaneTis dausruleblad aRiarebaa. Hhoda, Cemi megobari gmiria. yuradRebis miRma ver davtoveb. quTaisis 36-e sajaro skolis kompiuteruli teqnologiebis maswavlebels, natalia TurqaZes, romelic erT-erT sagnobriv seminarze gavicani da mas Semdeg erTad movdivarT, erTmaneTs vexidebiT, erTad gaviareT gza praqtikosobidan mentorobamde. jgufi, romelmac erovnul doneze aRiareba mogvitana, erTad SevqmeniT da vuZRvebiT dRemde.
– beRleT-danisparaulis xeobas, me-20 saukuneSi, nodar ZirkvaZisa da levan gelaZis saxiT, ori Rirseuli Semoqmedi hyavda. maTTan Tu gqondaT urTierToba?
– nodar ZirkvaZis meuRle – Tina ZirkvaZe, Cemi damrigebeli iyo, dRes rom maswavlebeli var, swored misi damsaxurebaa. gasaocari pirovnuli Tvisebebi, saocrad saTuTi urTierToba bavSvebTan, miseuli siyvaruli patarebisa da didebis mimarT seniviT Semeyara da . . . dRes pedagogi var. mqonda bedniereba, momesmina nodar ZirkvaZis gakveTilebi, garkveuli periodis ganmavlobaSi maswavlida qarTul enasa da literaturas. es iyo mTiani aWaris inteligenciis Rirseuli warmomadgeneli, mTis erTguli Svili, marTveTa damfrTianebeli, amitomac Searqves mas zedmetsaxelad `didebuli~. rac Seexeba levan gelaZes, samwuxarod, piradad ar vicnobdi, radgan Zalian adre gardaicvala, Tumca kargad vicnob mis Semoqmedebas da vcdilob momaval Taobasac gavacno. Cemi organizebiT, yoveli wlis 4 dekembers, mis mSobliur Rurtis sajaro skolaSi imarTeba levan gelaZisadmi miZRvnili RonisZieba.
– kompiuteruli teqnologiebis maRal doneze aTviseba xom ar iqneba safuZveli, mzia kaxaZe-iakobaZis avtorobiT saxelmZRvanelo Seiqmnas?
– idea arsebobs, ra Tqma unda, imedia, am ideas xorcsac Sevasxam.
– swavla siberemdeo. doqtoranturisken xom ar migiwevT guli?
– am etapze, sxvadasxva programis SeswavliT var dakavebuli, romelic pirdapir kavSirSia Cems profesiasTan, vfiqrob, Cemi moswavleebi imsaxureben karg maswavlebels, amitomac ar vapireb gaCerebas, mudmivad vswavlob, rom vaswavlo . . .
– dabolos, ras urCevdiT damwyeb kolegebs?
– maswavlebloba unda iyos gacnobierebuli arCevani, ar unda eSinodeT siaxleebis, radgan nebismier sferoSi, warmatebis erTaderTi safuZveli mudmivi Sromaa. ar daijeron, rom maswavlebloba rTuli profesiaa, piriqiT – Zalian saintereso, idumali da jadosnuri cxovreba elodebaT win. skola siyvarulis adgilia da yvelaze mTavari mainc bavSvebis siyvarulia, unda giyvardes gulwrfelad da upirobod. bavSvebs ver aswavli, Tu maTTan urTierTobis Camoyalibebis etapi warmatebiT ver gadalaxe.
