,,სოლიდარობის თემი” – რეგიონის განვითარებისთვის
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ama wlis dasawyisSi aWaris mTianeTSi arasamTavrobo organizacia `solidarobis Temi~ dafuZnda. mis miznebsa da amocanebze organizaciis TanadamfuZnebeli nestan ananiZe gvesaubreba.
– rogor gaCnda `solidarobis Temis~ dafuZnebis idea?
– masSi 10 axalgazrdaa aWaridan, romlebic gansxvavdebian profesiiT, SexedulebebiTa da interesebiT. Cven urTierTTanamSromlobisa da megobrobis garkveuli gamocdileba gvaqvs, Tumca saqmianobis meti organizebulobis, strategiuli nabijebis gadadgmisa da ganxorcielebis mizniT, erT welSi aRniSnul erTobas organizaciuli struqturis forma mivaniWeT, es SesaniSnavi idea ki zaza miqelaZes ekuTvnis – erT-erT TanadamfuZnebels.
-Yyvela wamowyebas aqvs mizani. . .
– `solidarobis Temi~ aris arasamTavrobo, arasamewarmeo organizaciaa, romlis misia aWaris cnobadobis gazrda, kulturuli memkvidreobis warmoCena, socialuri da samoqalaqo CarTulobis gaZliereba, muslimi Temis TviTorganizebis da solidarobis praqtikis damkvidrebis mxardaWeraa. organizacia orientirebulia solidaruli, samarTliani da inkluziuri samoqalaqo sazogadoebis mSeneblobaze, sadac yvela socialuri jgufis warmomadgenels SeeZleba sakuTari uflebis dacva, Rirseuli da usafrTxo cxovreba. Cveni muSaobis ZiriTadi areali aWaraa, aseve is teritoriebi, sadac sxvadasxva problemis gamo aWaridan gadasuli ojaxebi cxovroben. Sesabamisad, Cven vTanamSromlobT da mzad varT viTanamSromloT yvela adamiansa Tu dawesebulebasTan, vinc cxovrobs an saqmianobs am sivrceebSi da Seesabameba organizaciis Rirebulebebs.
– rogoria Tqveni damokidebuleba muslimi Temisadmi?
– mniSvnelovania, yvelas gvesmodes, rom saqarTvelo ar aris monoeTnikuri Tu monoreligiuri qveyana. piriqiT, vxedavT, rom es patara miwa mravali niSniT gansxvavebul adamianTa teritoriaa. organizaciis erT-erTi mizania qarTveli muslimebis religiuri identobis, uflebrivi sakiTxebisa da istoriis kvleva. vfiqrobT, es ukanaskneli Zalian mniSvnelovani da Rirebulia, radgan xSirad gvesmis siZulvilis ena, vxedavT diskriminacias, dezinformacias qarTvel muslimebTan dakavSirebiT. isic unda vTqvaT, rom ar arian dafasebuli saqarTvelos muslimi moRvaweebi, romlebsac didi wvlili aqvT Setanili saerTo qarTuli saxelmwifoebrivi ideis ganxorcielebaSi. amis magaliTi Zalian bevria: memed abaSiZis, loman-efendi qarcivaZis, axmed xalifaSvilis CamoTvlac sakmarisia, Tumca kidev araerTi samagaliTo moRvawe hyavda samxreT-dasavleT saqarTvelos.
– aWaris mTianeTSi muslim TemTan erTad sxva aRmsareblobis mimdevrebic arian. tolerantobas ra mniSvnelobas aniWebT?
– vfiqrobT, aWaras aqvs Zalian didi potenciali, iyos interreligiuri mSvidobiani Tanacxovrebis magaliTi, miuxedavad arsebuli sxvadasxva gamowvevisa. Tumca, amasTan, mniSvnelovania, rom es mSvidobiani Tanacxovreba ar efuZnebodes romelime religiis warmomadgenel adamianTa Tmenasa da Cagvras. aWaraSi vxvdebiT ojaxebs, sadac sxvadasxva mrwamsis mqone adamianebi erT WerqveS cxovroben, amitomac mniSvnelovania namdvili tolerantoba, urTierTpativiscema da erTmaneTis Cveulebebis gaziareba. ganviTarebuli, demokratiuli da mSvidobiani qveynis mSenebloba erTad SegviZlia da ara cal-calke – Zala xom erTobaSia.
– sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis pirvel arxze Tqvens miznebze ukve isaubres, romelTa srulyofas Tanxebi sWirdeba. mudmivi donori gyavT Tu periodulad grantebis mopovebiT dakmayofildebiT?
– geTanxmebiT, saamisod xSirad saWiroa finansuri resursebi, Tumca ara yovelTvis. `solidarobis Temis~ gundis wevrebis codniTa da gamocdilebiT, araerTi aqtivoba ganvaxorcieleT yovelgvari finansuri resursis gareSe. magaliTad, `qalTa fotoistoriebi aWaridan~, `qalebi qalebis vaqcinaciisTvis~ da ase Semdeg. Cveni finansuri wyaroebi sruliad sajaroa. samwuxarod, am etapisTvis ar gvyavs mudmivi donori da periodulad grantebs viRebT adgilobrivi da saerTaSoriso samoqalaqo organizaciebisgan: socialuri samarTlianobis centri, People in need Georgia, Tbilisis adamianis uflebaTa saxli.
– marto xulos municipalitetidan samcxeSi, javaxeTisa da TrialeTis zegnebze 4500-mde ojaxia gadasuli. isini sxvadasxva aRmsareblobisa arian. miznebSi maTTan muSaobis, TanamSromlobis ra formas irCevT?
– saqstatis monacemebiT, yvelaze meti ojaxi, romelic stiqias, miwis resursebis simcires ganerida, am regionebSia gadasuli. aWaridan ekomigrantebi saqarTvelos TiTqmis yvela regionSi cxovroben. maTi socialuri yofa arc ise saxarbieloa da xSirad bazisuri saWiroebebic ki ar aqvT dakmayofilebuli, magaliTad, gzis, sasmeli wylis, miwis sakuTrebis registraciis saWiroebebi.
– xmebi vrceldeba, rom `solidarobis Tems~ opozicioneri parlamentari lobirebs. es simarTlea?
– `solidarobis Temi~ gvaerTianebs aT axalgazrdas, romlebic davibadeT da gavizardeT aWaraSi, saqarTvelos wamyvan universitetebSi sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT miviReT ganaTleba, axla ki valdebulebad miviCnevT, Cveni wili aguri davdoT regionisa da qveynis ganviTarebaSi. Cveni gacxadebuli poziciaa, rom `solidarobis Temi~, rogorc samoqalaqo organizacia, srulad izolirebulia politikisgan da Cvens feisbuq Tu fizikur aqtivobebSi politikis niSans ver naxavT. `solidarobis Temis~ sabWos gadawyvetilebiT, daclili varT yovelgvari politikisgan, Sesabamisad, Cvendami pozitiur ganwyobas veravis avukrZalavT, Tumca Cveni saqmianoba saerTod, ar aris dakavSirebuli romelime parlamentarTan an partiasTan. aqedan gamomdinare, SeTanxmebulni varT, rom Tu romelime wevri Seudgeba partiul saqmianobas, is datovebs `solidarobis Tems~.
– ra damokidebuleba gaqvT qveynis, regionisa da adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis sakanonmdeblo, aRmasrulebel da warmomadgenlobiT organoebTan?
– vaanalizebT, ramdenad Rirebulia maTTan TanamSromloba rogorc adgilobriv, ise centralursa da avtonomiis doneze. sxvadasxva uwyebasTan TanamSromlobis gamocdileba ukve gvaqvs.
– saxelisuflebo struqturebSi Tanamdebobis dasakaveblad gamocxadebul konkursebSi `solidarobis Temis~ damfuZneblebi Tu CaerTvebiT?
– rogorc aRvniSne, `solidarobis Temi~ aranair partiul, politikur saqmianobaSi ar aris CarTuli. Cven miznad davisaxeT cvlilebebis ganxorcieleba qvemodan daviwyoT xalxTan erTad da ara – zemodan. am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, cxadia, yvela TanadamfuZnebels Tavisi mosazreba eqneba, Tumca Tavidanve SeTanxmebulni varT, rom dauSvebelia orive saqmianobis SeTavseba.
– yvela damfuZnebels axalgazrduli asaki gaqvT. Tqveni Taobis warmomadgenlebisTvis ra proeqtebs gegmavT?
– ukve ganvaxorcieleT erT-erTi proeqti – `axalgazrdebi mTiani aWarisTvis~, romelic exeboda adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis dagegmvisa da ganxorcielebis procesSi moqalaqeTa, maT Soris axalgazrdebis CarTulobis formebs. qedis, Suaxevisa da xulos axalgazrdebi iyvnen CarTulni. Zalian mniSvnelovani iyo es SesaZlebloba, Cveni axalgazrdebis mosazrebebi, damokidebulebebi, ideebi, motivaciebi gagvego. Cveni erT-erTi ZiriTadi mimarTuleba regionaluri ganviTareba da axalgazrdobaa, Sesabamisad, garda proeqtebisa, vmuSaobT, rom meti SesaZleblobebi SevqmnaT organizaciis saqmianobaSi axalgazrdebis CarTulobisTvis.
– xulos mcire ierusalimad vnaTlavT. ori marTlmadidebluri taZari mrevls salocavad uxmobs, meCeTsa da medreses Tavisi mrevli hyavs. arian ojaxebi, sadac aRmsareblobisadmi damokidebuleba sxvadasxvaa. am mdgomareobas rogor SeafasebT?
– pirvel rigSi, CemTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania TiToeuli adamianis rwmena efuZnebodes Tavisufal arCevans da ara raime saxis zegavlenas. rac Seexeba ojaxebs, romlebic sxvadasxva aRmsareblobis wevrebisgan Sedgeba, vfiqrob, es aris unikaluri SesaZlebloba da gamocdileba, vixiloT mSvidobiani Tanacxovrebis magaliTebi. sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime kviris win gamoqveynda `solidarobis Temis~ erT-erTi TanadamfuZneblis da aRmasrulebeli direqtoris Tornike abulaZis naSromi – `rogor cxovroben Sereuli religiuri ojaxebi mTian aWaraSi~. Mman am sakiTxze xuloSi 2020 wels imuSava. Zalian sainteresoa da yvelas vurCev waikiTxos. iZebneba Cvens vebgverdzec da socialuri samarTlianobis centris gverdzec. vfiqrobT, rom Cveni aWaris unikaluroba swored amaSi gamoixateba – enaSi, ritualebSi, tradiciebsa da yoveldRiurobaSi. es Sezrdili gansxvavebebi sxvebisTvis Ria, unikalur garemos qmnis. amitomac, Cemi azriT, aWarlebi yvelaze metad unda viyoT solidarulebi gansxvavebuli, mowyvladi socialuri jgufebis mimarT.
– rogoria Tqveni damokidebuleba maT mimarT, vinc mrwamsis da erovnebis urTierTdamokidebulebas Tavisebur interpretacias usadagebs?
– samwuxarod, Cveni qveynis damoukideblobis istoriis ganmavlobaSi sxvadasxva saxis nacionalizmi ikidebda fexs. yvelaze mtkivneulia eTnokonfesiuri nacionalizmi, rodesac qveynis moqalaqeobis gansazRvra eTnikuri da religiuri warmomavlobis Tu identobis niSniT xdeba. es aris yvelaze didi Secdoma, rac SeiZleba qveyanas gaukeTo da erTiani mosaxleoba dayo, erTmaneTTan daapirispiro. Cvens qveyanaSi sxvadasxva mrwamsis qarTvelebi cxovroben: iezidebi, kaTolikebi, baptistebi, grigorianuli eklesiis warmomadgenlebi, marTlmadideblebi, muslimebi, eTnikurad azerbaijanelebi, udiebi, afxazebi, osebi, qistebi, qarTvelebi da ase Semdeg. am gansxvavebulobis miuxedavad, Cven, yvelani qarTvelebi varT, radgan erTad vibrZviT qveynis erTianobisTvis, ganviTarebisa da winsvlisTvis.
– ojaxur Rirebulebebs ra mniSvnelobas aniWebT?
– yvela Zlieri adamianis ukan dgas myari ojaxi, romelic mudam gamxnevebs da mxars giWers. amitomac, yoveli adamianis cxovrebaSi Zalian mniSvnelovan rols TamaSobs ojaxuri idilia.
– kvalificiuri ganaTlebis miRebis Semdeg daubrundiT mTas, daafuZneT arasamTavrobo organizacia, SeZeliT Tu ara sxva axalgazrdebis ayolieba?
– sabednierod, Zalian bevri adamiani, maT Soris axalgazrdebi gvexmianebian da gvamxneveben, gvafaseben Zalian dadebiTad, surT Cvens gundTan SemoerTeba da CvenTan erTad saqmianoba. Sesabamisad, darwmunebuli var, Zalian bevri Tanamoazre gvyavs da momavalSi kidev ufro meti gveyoleba, radgan realur Sedegebamde mxolod erTad muSaobiT mivalT.
– masmediis saSualebebis warmomadgenlebTan yovelTvis gulaxdili iqnebiT?
– Cveni umTavresi Rirebulebaa, vimsaxurebdeT adamianebis ndobas. ndobis mopoveba ki SeuZlebelia gulwrfelobis gareSe. maSasadame, organizaciis TiToeuli warmomadgeneli yvelgan da yovelTvis gulwrfeli saubrebiT warvsdgebiT, radgan Cven varT qarTveli axalgazrdebi, romlebic umaRlesi adamianuri Rirebulebebisa da faseulobebis garSemo varT gaerTianebulni.
