,,პრემიერის სტაბილური, გონივრული და ფრთხილი ნაბიჯები პოზიტიურად შეფასდება საქართველოს ისტორიაში”
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jer kidev ver axerxebs mosaxleoba medikamentebis dabal fasebSi SeZenas, radgan TurqeTidan saqarTveloSi Semosuli produqcia ver anacvlebs adgilobrivi eqimebis mier gamoweril wamlebs. afTiaqSi misulma, rac unda mkacrad moiTxovo esa Tu is medikamenti, gipasuxeben, rom ar aqvT an ar ician misi Turquli analogis Sesaxeb. faqtia, rom premieris dawyebuli `Seteva~, xels ar aZlevs qarTul farmacevtul bazars da am sferos wamyvani moTamaSeebi yvela Rones xmaroben, rac SeiZleba sarfianad daicalon xeli da zaralis gareSe moergon TamaSis axal wesebs. am problemis aRmosafxvrelad, mTavrobam Semdegi nabiji gadadga. kerZod, ukve 11 aprilidan, eqimi valdebulia, wamali mxolod generikuli, anu saerTaSoriso dasaxelebiT gamoweros, farmacevts ki avaldebuleben, moqalaqes 3 yvelaze iafi wamali SesTavazos
am da sxva siaxleebze, parlamentis umravlesobis poziciaze, Sualedur arCevnebsa da saqarTvelos sagareo politikaze saubrobs `aWarasTan~ interviuSi saqarTvelos parlamentis wevri zaal miqelaZe.
– batono zaal, ras gvetyviT premieris am iniciativaze?
– saqarTvelos farmacevtuli bazari ukve karga xania saWiroebda Carevas, radgan wlebis ganmavlobaSi sruliad ukontrolo gaxda fasebTan mimarTebaSi. amitom mxolod axali gzebis moZieba aRmoCnda gamosavali. aqedan gamomdinare, mTavrobam, premieris iniciativiT, swored es davaleba misca jandacvis axal ministrs, romelmac swrafad da efeqturad moagvara am sferosTan dakavSirebuli yvela problema. simarTle giTxraT, me, romelic sakmaod kargad var gaTviTcnobierebuli am sakiTxSi, arc ki velodi, aseT mokle droSi Tu vinme SeZlebda am uzarmazari bazris Seswavlas, sertifikacias, Turqul mwarmoeblebTan dakavSirebas da im qveynebis siaSi damatebas, romelic daSvebulia Cvens qveyanaSi.
– rac Seexeba sakanonmdeblo mxares?
– parlamentma daCqarebuli wesiT miiRo saTanado kanonebi, Secvala damokidebuleba. kerZod, nebismieri qveynidan wamlebis Semotanis dros, medikamentebis xarisxis uzrunvelyofis mizniT, savaldebulo gaxada GMP (kargi sawarmoo praqtikis) standartis dakmayofileba, rom ar darCes kiTxvis niSnebi, Tundac sxva qveynebTan dakavSirebiT.
– anu, axla saqarTveloSi Semosuli yvela medikamenti maRali xarisxis iqneba da SesaZloa TurqeTs sxva qveynebic daematos?
– rasakvirvelia, es standarti swored amas gulisxmobs. am valdebulebiT, saqarTvelo aRiarebs evrokavSiris standartebs farmacevtuli produqtebis xarisxis kontrolis mimarTulebiT. misi danergva xels Seuwyobs farmacevtuli seqtoris gaZlierebas da qveynis ekonomikur ganviTarebas. TurqeTTan erTad, medikamentebis Semotanas sxva qveynebic moindomebs da gansxvavebul reJimSi aravin rom ar darCeniliyo, yvela maTgans GMP standarts moTxoven. gasul wels, igive moTxovna savaldebulo gaxda Cveni mewarmeebisTvis. aqedan gamomdinare, sxvadasxva poziciaze rom ar darCeniliyvnen qveynis SigniT da qveynis gareT arsebuli mwarmoeblebi, yvelas moeTxoveba es standarti.
– ramdenad akmayofileben Cveni mwarmoeblebi standarts da ukmayofilebas xom ar gamoTqvamen mogebis Semcirebis gamo?
– jer kidev aqvT garkveuli grafiki da periodi micemuli am standartis dasakmayofileblad. rac Seexeba ukmayofilebas, mTavrobas xom araferi dauSavebia? piriqiT, standartebSi moaqcia farmacevtuli bazris produqcia da bazarze alternatiuli momwodeblebi SemouSva. es Tavadac kargad ician, isic ician, rom fasebis dasagdebad, bazarze ar dagviSvia `nebismieri,~ yvela procesi jansaRi konkurenciis farglebSi mimdinareobs. saqarTveloSi Semova is kompaniebi, romelic wamlis yvelaze maRal xarisxs akmayofilebs. xelisuflebas ar dauwesebia Cveni farmacevtebisTvis aranairi SezRudva. es aqamdec unda gakeTebuliyo da Tavad unda gamoeCinaT iniciativa, ZiriTadi mwarmoeblebi xom Cveni samedicino sferos warmomadgenlebia? ase rom, Zalian kargad grZnobdnen, dRes Tu xval, aucileblad ganixilavdnen farmacevtuli bazris problemas ufro maRal doneze.
– lugaris laboratoriaze ras gvetyviT? am bolos ruseTi sakmaod xSirad apelirebs am TemiT. es iwvevs garkveul SiSs moqalaqeebSi, rom am mizeziT kremli dagvartyams.
– es Tema axali ar aris, magram marTlac gaxSirda amaze saubrebi moskovis `ruporebis~ mxridan. mas Semdeg, rac amerikelebis mxardaWeriT es laboratoria gaixsna, rusebs ar aZlevs mosvenebas misi daniSnuleba. arada, es erT-erTi saukeTeso obieqtia, rac SeiZleboda gakeTebuliyo saqarTveloSi am mimarTulebiT. Tu Cven sxva bevr qveyanaze adre SevZeliT garkveuli infeqciebis identificireba, maTTan brZolis swori taqtikis SemuSaveba da damarcxeba (aq kovidis garda gripis sxva virusebsac vgulisxmob), lugaris laboratoriis calsaxa damsaxurebaa. jer kidev 2008 wels gaCnda kiTxvebi laboratoriasTan dakavSirebiT. maSinac vTavazobdiT da axlac vTavazobT Sesabamisi saerTaSoriso statusis mqone adamians, delegacias, specialists, intrigans, movides, yovelgvari SezRudvis gareSe SevuSvebT lugaris laboratoriaSi da vaCvenebT, rom iq araferi gansxvavebuli ar xdeba, garda imisa, rac unda xdebodes standartul, saerTaSoriso donis laboratoriaSi.
– enm-is wevri nona mamulaSvili acxadebs, rom Salva papuaSvils ukrainaSi Casvlis eSinia da avadmyofobac amitom moimizeza. man parlamentis Tavmjdomares oyna, broweuli da pampersi gaugzavna da am formiT gamoxata protesti.
– Salva papuaSvili ar aris is kaci, raime rom aSinebdes. aRar minda amaze saubris gagrZeleba, radgan ar imsaxurebs aravisgan msgavs performanss. aqve vityvi, rom Sekrebaze Cven ganvixileT ukrainaSi SesaZlo Casvlis sakiTxi. gavaxmovaneT miRebuli gadawyvetileba imis Taobaze, rom saparlamento umravlesobis warmomadgenlebi gaemgzavrebian ukrainaSi, rac Seexeba Semadgenlobas – mogvianebiT gaxdeba cnobili.
– raSi sWirdeba zelenskis aseTi zewola saqarTveloze?
– bevri binZuri fandi gamoiyenes ukrainis ubedurebis xelze daxveviT `nacebma~, riTac axerxeben omSi myofi qveynis yuradRebis maTTvis saWiro mimarTulebiT warmarTvas, Torem aravis zedmeti kiTxvis niSanic ki ar gasCenia im agresiis, im saSinelebebis fonze, rasac ruseTi sCadis mezobeli qveynis da zogadad, adamianebis mimarT. ukrainis xelisuflebisgan daumsaxurebeli pretenziebi, rasac dRes gviyeneben, ZaliT gaaCines aqedan portirebulma `nacebma~. am urTules situaciaSi, ar vapirebT pasuxis gacemas da damatebiTi kiTxvebis dasmas. ubralod, gasaocaria, rodesac qveyanas ase uWirs, amdeni msxverpli hyavs, infrastruqtura da warmoeba absoluturad ganadgurebulia da. . . prezidentma moicala elCis jer gamosaTxovad, Semdeg gasaTavisufleblad da papuaSvilis buCaSi misawvevad. gasagebia, rom iq kargad `muSaoben Cvenebi~. gamzadebuli da Cawodebuli aqvT rigi sakiTxebi, Torem vis axsovs saqarTvelo? cxadia, swored iq portirebulebs ar asvenebT Cveni qveyana da cdiloben mis omSi CaTrevas. es maTi xelweraa, radgan aqac igives akeTebdnen, ostaturad iyenebdnen nebismier ubedurebas sakuTari interesebis gasatareblad da aseTi masStabis tragedias rogor gauSveben xelidan. piradad me da Cemi Tanagundelebic ase vxedavT am yvelafers. Tumca brZeni da gonieria qarTveli eri, raSic kidev erTxel davrwmundi axlaxan baTumSi Catarebuli Sualeduri arCevnebis SedegebiT.
– am arCevnebze ras gvetyviT, romelic ramaz jinWaraZem moigo? igi Tqveni moadgile iyo, rodesac aWaris jandacvis ministri iyaviT da kargad icnobT.
– Zalian gamixarda misi gamarjveba, Rirseuli da uxinjo kandidati iyo, opoziciasac aRaraferi daurCa saTqmeli. marTalia, amave ubanSi, arCevnebis pirvel turSi opoziciis kandidats misces xma, magram axla, swored opoziciuri nawilis uRirsma qcevam ubiZga adamianebs, azri Seecvala. araTu Cvenma momxreebma, maT mier moyvanilma amomrCevelmac `qarTul ocnebas~ dauWira mxari, rasac adre arafriT dauSvebdnen. es informaciebi sarwmunoa, arafers vamateb, piriqiT, SeiZleba raRacas vakleb kidec, radgan ar minda am Temis ganvrcoba. darwmunebuli var, axla ukrainelebs ar scalia CvenTvis da arc unda ecaloT, magram uflis wyalobiT, maTi gamarjvebiT dasruldeba es omi, xval-zeg moiclian saqarTvelosTvis da dainaxaven, ra wvrilmanebze gaakeTes aqcenti maSin, rodesac sakmaod Zlieri mxardaWera hqondaT Cvengan da gavakeTeT imaze gacilebiT meti, vidre amis realuri SesaZlebloba gagvaCnda.
– sxva pretenziebTan erTad, ukraina brals gvdebs rZis produqtis ruseTSi eqsportisTvis.
– simarTle giTxraT, mikvirs, ra rZis produqtebzea saubari, maSin rodesac, Cveni qveyana ver awarmoebs sakuTari mosaxleobis mesamedis dasakmayofilebel (netavi ki awarmoebdes) rZis produqts. ra gvaqvs amdeni, eqsportze rom gavitanoT da ruseTs mivawodoT? es araviTar logikas ar emorCileba. ukrainaSi, omis miuxedavad, jer kidev SenarCunebulia mecxoveleobis msxvili fermebi da albaT, igive masStabis fermebi hgoniaT Cvens qveyanaSic. Tqven da mkiTxvelmac xom kargad icis, qveyanaSi am mimarTulebis erTi normaluri simZlavris sawarmoc ar gagvaCnia. Tu viRacam erTi vedro rZe an erTi samarSruto taqsiT mwvanili gaitana, salaparakoa? ukrainis fostis monacemebiT Cans, rom 191 qveynidan pirvel adgilze varT humanitaruli tvirTis gagzavnaSi. yvelaferi es xom ukrainis mxarSi dgomaa da nu moTxoven Cvens patara, Rarib qveyanas omSi CarTvas, nu dagvaZaleben imaze mets, vidre SegviZlia. Cven jerac ver mogviSuSebia ruseTis agresiiT moyenebuli tkivili, ver gamogvitirebia maT mier daxocili biWebi, moxucebi, bavSvebi, jerac ver mosulan azrze sastiki omiT sakuTar qveyanaSi devnilebad qceuli adamianebi. omis SemTxvevaSi, im mcire mxardaWerasac veRar gamovxatavT, rasac am etapze vakeTebT.
– yvelaze metad, ruseTSi gasagzavni tvirTebisTvis saqarTvelos tranzitad gamoyenebis braldebam dagvabnia.
– praqtikulad, yvela sainformacio gadacemaSi veZeb, iqneb sadme gaiJReros realurma faqtma. arsad araferi ismis da es gasagebicaa, rogor SeiZleba saqarTvelodan rames gatanis imedad darCeniliyo amxela ruseTi. am masStabis omi TiTqosda Cvens mier miwodebuli iaraRis imedad wamoiwyo? TavisianebSi moZebnon `nacebma~ tvirTis gadamzidi, radgan isini darbian yvela meore dRes ukrainaSi. maT ufro meti `biZebi~ hyavT ruseTSi da sakuTar liderebSi (jer kidev ruseTis moqalaqeebSi), moikiTxon, vis ra gaaqvs da gamoaqvs.
– radgan moskovs SevexeT, iq Casul Cvens politikosebzec vTqvaT oriod sityva.
– `patriotebic~ kargad iyvnen mitmasnili enm-s da yvela erT gundad Sekruli gvebrZoda. imasac ar gamovricxav, rom enm-s davalebac aqvs moskovSi Sesasrulebeli. am Temaze meti ra unda vTqva, Cemi gansja ar iqneba sxvebisgan gansxvavebuli, erTs davamateb, rom istoria yvelas miuCens adgils da esenic miiReben sakuTari eris Svilebisgan sakadris pasuxs. aqve aRvniSnav, biZina ivaniSvilma arcerT etapze ar miiRo sxva partiebTan koaliciebSi Sekruli `patriotTa aliansi~. am partias Tavidanve hqonda mkveTrad gamoxatuli rusuli mimarTulebebi, Tumca, amis miuxedavad, `erTianma nacionalurma moZraobam~ kargad Caixuta gulSi, arc ki gaxsenebia sakuTari proevropuli orientacia. aqve xazgasmiT aRvniSnav, rom Cveni mTavroba, misi premieri, atarebs yvelaze gamarTul swor politikas. garwmunebT, premieris stabiluri, gonivruli da frTxili nabijebi pozitiurad Sefasdeba saqarTvelos istoriaSi. am sifrTxiliT man SeZlo im ubedurebis SeCereba, romelic, SeiZleba, viRacis gaTvliT, am qveynis gasanadgureblad gamoeyenebinaT. axlandel arCevnebs gavixseneb da vityvi, rom is 70%, romelic `qarTulma ocnebam~ aiRo, xalxma misca saqarTvelos mTavrobis swori politikis da omis safrTxis Tavidan acilebis gamo. amaSi dameTanxmebian sociologebi da mosaxleobis Tvalsazrisis Sefasebisas gamoCndeba, rom marTali var,
– dabolos, batono zaal, pandemiis Sesaxebac gviTxariT – ra etapze varT?
– amJamad, pandemiis kidev erTi etapis dasasrulia. `omikroni~ epidemiologiurad kacobriobis imdenad didma raodenobam gadaitana, rom raRac periodSi aRar wamovida axali talRa, imuniteti iyo SenarCunebuli. axla swored am etapze gadis dedamiwa, romlis mosaxleobis 70% an acrilia an gadatanili aqvs `kovidi~. aqedan gamomdinare, sakmaod didi wyveta mouwevs viruss axali talRis wamosawyebad. adamianTa didi raodenobis vaqcinirebis SemTxvevaSi, ufro meti Sansi gvaqvs, mutacia veRarc ki ganviTardes da gadavides Cveulebrivi sezonuri virusebis siaSi, iSviaTi mciremasStabiani afeTqebebiT. msoflio aRar dadgeba pandemiis safrTxis winaSe.

