ბათუმის თითქმის ყველა სასაფლაოზე ადგილები ამოწურულია
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ori weliwadia, rac msoflio pandemiis gamo, aRdgomis brwyinvale Svideulis dros qarTvelebi ver gadian sasaflaoebze. rogorc iqna, miilia pandemia da Sesustda mis winaaRmdeg SemoRebuli mkacri SezRudvebi, amitom axla gansakuTrebuli mzadebaa saaRdgomod, yvela cdilobs, sakuTar micvalebulebs miagos misagebeli
ra mdgomareobaa baTumis sasaflaoebze, ra problemebi da gegmebi aqvT, amaze gvesaubreba a(a)ip `baTumis sasaflaoebis~ direqtori jumber kobalaZe, romlis muSaobiTac kmayofili arian Wirisuflebi, aRniSnaven, rom am bolos bevri ram gakeTda da mniSvnelovnad mowesrigda feriis sasaflao.
– jer kidev SarSan, saaRdgomod, dacvas aZlierebdiT urCi Wirisuflebis Sesakaveblad, wels ki, albaT, didi mzadeba gaqvT, radgan darwmunebuli var, lamis mTeli qalaqi daiZvreba sasaflaoebisken.
– diax, ase iyo, magram Zalian kargia, rom virusi naklebad saSiSi gaxda da ukve tradiciulad mivlen moqalaqeebi saflavebze. yvelafer amas udidesi datvirTva aqvs, upirvelesad, cocxlebisTvis, radgan aq mosvliT, saflavebze wiTeli kvercxebis gadagorebiT, Wiqa Rvinis waqceviT Tu paskis motaniT valmoxdili brundebian saxlSi. sasaflao wminda adgilia. miuxedavad imisa, rom sikvdili yvela adamianis sicocxlis bunebrivi Sedegia da sasaflaoebi am bunebriv movlenebTan erTad izrdeba da farTovdeba, ver xerxdeba rigi sakiTxebis mogvareba sxvadasxva mizezis gamo. praqtikulad, dasamarxi adgilebis gareSe darCenili baTumi am mxriv gaurkvevel viTarebaSi imyofeba. isicaa, rom bevrs uWirs aq mosvla da saflavebis mowesrigeba, rac sakmaod didi sirTuleebis winaSe ayenebs direqcias.
– am etapze ra keTdeba baTumis sasaflaoebze?
– me mxolod erTi welia, rac am postze var da marTlac uzarmazari samuSaoebi damxvda Sesasrulebeli. Zalian bevri ram aris mosagvarebeli. pandemiisas saflavebze naklebad modiodnen, praqtikulad, xalxs ar ecala da Zalian mouvleli darCa saflavebic da mimdebare perimetric – WiSkrebi Camovardnili iyo, Robeebi – gafuWebuli. kompania, romelmac es manamde gaakeTa, davavaldebule misi aRdgena, magram uxarisxod imuSaves da isev Camovarda. qalaqis meris uSualo daxmarebiT, Sevqmeni mcelavebis da sxva samuSaoebis mwarmoebeli, saflavebis movla-patronobis brigadebi, romlebic yoveldRiurad gadian perimetrze da mTeli datvirTviT muSaoben. mosaxleobisganac madlobebs vRebulobT, zogan isea yvelaferi Caxergili, specialuri iaraRebis da specmuSebis gareSe Wirisufali verafers gaxdeba. male davasrulebT Robeebis darCenili mcire monakveTis aRdgenas. rac Seexeba WiSkrebs, saaRdgomod yvela ganaxldeba.
– aRdgomis dResaswauli ukve aRniSnes somxebma. . .
– diax, mogvmarTa somxurma diasporam da sami dRiT adre yvela brigada gadaviyvaneT somxur sasaflaoebze. ramdenime manqana nagavi da ekal-bardi gavitaneT da saflavebi gavwmindeT. aqac kmayofili dagvrCa xalxi.
– marTlmadidebelTa aRdgomisTvis kidev ra samzadisi gaqvT?
– kviramde unda davasruloT mocelvis da gawmendis samuSaoebi, Semdeg ki ebraelTa saflavebs unda mivxedoT. misi didi nawili upatronod aris darCenili, radgan maTi STamomavlebis umetesoba israelSi gadavida. es saflavebi ganlagebulia panTeons zeviT, saTnoebis saxlTan mimavali gzis gadasaxvevSi. iq uzarmazari xeebia, Caxergilia yvelaferi. laSa komaxiZis merobis dros gaiwminda ZiriTadad es adgili, mas Semdeg veRaravin moicala. me davukavSirdi ebraelTa diasporas TbilisSi da vuTxari, rom maTi warmomadgeneli Tu Camova da gaakontrolebs Casatarebel samuSaoebs, Zalian kargi iqneba, mere rom ar hqondeT pretenzia. am dReebSi maqsimaluri datvirTviT vmuSaobT, 30-ze meti satvirTo manqana nagavi gavitaneT feriis sasaflaodan. yvelafers gavwmendT, gavkafavT, movcelavT. gvaqvs SeZenili balaxis gasaxmobi qimiuri nivTierebebi da rogorc ki moZlierdeba balaxi, SevwamlavT, raTa ar davuSvaT misi gamravleba da sufTad SevinarCunoT sasaflao.
– aq feriis Sesaxeb isaubreT. sxva sasaflaoebze ra samuSaoebs gegmavT?
– sxva sasaflaoebze gacilebiT iolia samuSaoebis Catareba, radgan arc amxela farTobisaa da arc ase gorakiani da usigrZegano, rogoric feriis, sadac SeiZleba, kaci daibnes. aRdgomis dReebisTvis absoluturad mowesrigebuli iqneba baTumSi arsebuli yvela sasaflao. vimedovnebT, kmayofilni darCebian Wirisuflebica da moqalaqeebic.
– sul ramdeni sasaflao funqcionirebs baTumSi?
– 13 sasaflao, feriisaa mecamete. Caqvis sasaflaosac hyavs dacva, drogamoSvebiT vagzavniT brigadebs mis mosawesrigeblad, raTa ar momZlavrdes ekal-bardi da ar Caixergos bilikebi. axla velodebiT sakrebulos sxdomaze sakiTxis gatanas samxaraulis eqspertizis gadaxedvis Taobaze.
– Tu SeiZleba, dagvikonkreteT.
– baTumSi arsebul TiTqmis yvela sasaflaoze amowurulia adgilebi. xelvaCauris sasaflaoebis gaerTianeba rom ar gvexmarebodes, ar vici, ra gzas davadgebodiT. ianvridan xelvaCauris sasaflaos direqtori irakli karanaZe gaxda. Zalian kargi, saqmiani pirovnebaa, winamorbediviT yovelmxriv gviwyobs xels. axla mas vTxovT Tamaris dasaxleba-barcxanisa da xelvaCauris yofil, axla baTums SemoerTebul teritoriebze gardacvlilTaTvis adgilis povnas. Zalian cud dReSi varT Cvenca da Wirisuflebic, romlebic saflavis gamoyofas gvTxoven. irakli karanaZec gvexmareba da poulobs adgilebs – zogjer sofel ganTiadSi, salibaurSi, orTabaTumis gzaze, winsvlis SesaxvevSi da sxva. es soflebi axlosaa baTumis sazRvrebTan da iqauri mosaxleoba gviwyobs xels Cveni Tanaqalaqelebis dakrZalvaSi. minda visargeblo SemTxveviT da madloba gadavuxado am adamianebs, Torem verafers gavawyobdiT sxva SemTxvevaSi.
– Caqvis sasaflaos davubrundeT. maxsovs, sakmaod ambiciuri proeqti hqonda am adgilTan dakavSirebiT merias.
– hqonda da aqvs kidec. 200 aTasi moqalaqea ukve baTumSi. am raodenobidan gamomdinare, dReSi 10-15 micvalebuli gvyavs, aqedan sam-oTxs sakuTari saflavi ar aqvs, ase rom, yoveldRiur reJimSi aqtiurad veZebT saflavebs. ukve marTla gausaZlisi mdgomareoba gvaqvs. sadme Tu gamoiZebna dasamarxi adgili, vcdilobT, CavayenoT mwyobrSi, movawesrigoT da Wirisufals davexmaroT, erTadgiliani saflavi mainc rom moixerxos.
– ratom daiwuna samxaraulis eqspertizam Caqvis sasaflao?
– misi daskvniT, iq SesaZlebelia mewyruli procesebis ganviTareba, magram ukve 7 weli gavida da araviTari mewyersaSiSi mdgomareoba ar SeiniSneba. migvaCnia, rom iq aris adgili, sadac Tavisuflad SeiZleba saflavebis gaTxra. 18 heqtramde farTobi kapitaluradaa gakeTebuli, mTlianad SemoRobilia. Sida perimetrze gadis moasfaltebuli quCebi, trotuarebi, gayvanilia saniaRvre arxebi, bordiurebiT da jaWvebiTaa SemoRobili samarxebi. panTeonis adgilic calkea gamoyofili da isic mowyobilia yvela aucilebeli infrastruqturiT, maT Sorisaa administraciis orsarTuliani Senoba, gamoyofilia sawyobebi samuSao iaraRebisTvis. mokled, marTlac evropul donezea yvelaferi gakeTebuli. faqtobrivad, ar arsebobs qalaqTan axlos sxva amxela teritoria, sadac SevZlebT axali sasaflaos mowyobas. aqedan gamomdinare, vecdebiT, sakrebulos sxdomaze (Tuki gveRirsa misi Catareba) gavitanoT Caqvis sasaflaos sakiTxi da imedi maqvs, rom gagebiT mogvekidebian da gamonaxaven gzas, raTa am adgilas daviwyoT dakrZalvebi. ase Tu ar moxda, ar vici, ras vizamT, sanam gavZlebT sxva sasaflaoebis imedad.
– yvelaferi gaZvirda, batono jumber, da saflavis fasma ar moimata?
– ara, jer kidev Zveli tarifebiT vmuSaobT – baTumis sakrebulos 2012 wlis sxdomaze damtkicebuli fasebia isev. arsebul saflavSi dasakrZalad saWiroa asi laris bankSi specangariSze gadaxda, xolo Tuki ar aqvs dasakrZali adgili, maSin moqalaqe 150 lars saflavSi ixdis, xolo dakrZalvaSi – 100 lars.
– yvela saflavs aqvs miniWebuli nomeri?
– ar aqvs yvelas miniWebuli da Tqveni nebarTviT, aqve davamateb mimarTvas baTumelebisadmi: yvelas, visac aqvs aRuricxavi saflavi, movides, daaregistriros, mivaniWebT nomers da masac da Cvenc gvecodineba, vin aris patroni da vis mivmarToT aucileblobis SemTxvevaSi. bevrma arc icis, sad aqvs saflavi, ver agnebs, uxerxulobaSi vardeba Tavadac da Cvenc zedmeti wvaleba gviwevs. zogi mxolod maSin modis, rodesac sWirdeba notariusi, arqivi da erT dReSi uwevs yvelafris gakeTeba. qarTvelebs wesad gvaqvs – bolo momentamde gadavdoT dokumentebis mowesrigeba, magram Zalian vTxov yvelas, droulad movidnen, daafiqsiron, sad hyavT dasaflavebuli winapari, gadavaregistrirebT, axal nomers mivaniWebT da gvecodineba, rom saflavs hyavs patroni, romelic mouvlis mis teritorias. Tanac registrirebuli saflavis mimarT veravis gauCndeba raime pretenzia.
– xalxi ambobs, rom centralur sasaflaoze Zalian maRal fasad SesaZlebelia saflavis yidva.
– mec gamigonia amis Sesaxeb da getyviT, rom marTlac SesaZlebelia yidva da sakmaod Zviradac, magram am farTs hyidian mimdebare mosaxleebi mesxis quCidan, romlebsac sasaflaos gverdiT aqvT bostnebi da sam-oTx kvadrat miwas 2-3 aTas aSS dolarad afaseben. visac aqvs saSualeba, albaT, uRirs da yidulobs, magram minda icodeT, rom msgavsi araferi xdeba Cveni CareviT. es piradi garigebebia kerZo pirebTan, romelsac veravin gaakontrolebs da verc dauSlis.
– ar yofila saubari, rom saxelmwifom Seisyidos es teritoriebi da gazardos sasaflao?
– rac me var direqtori, amaze saubari ar yofila, magram Cemi gadasaxedidan, jer erTi, verc es teritoriebi uSvelis amxela qalaqs, meorec – imdenad Zviria aq yoveli kvadratuli metri, rom saxelmwifos aranairad ar aZlevs xels misi SeZena. sacxovreblis sabazro RirebulebiT, 1 kvm miwis farTobs baTumis am teritoriaze 100 aSS dolarze metad ver Seafaseb, magram aqaurebi saflavisTvis erT kvadrats yidian TiTqmis aTas dolarad.
– saflavebis gacifruleba Tu dasrulda?
– programa Seqmnilia da misi 95% muSaobs, ukve amiT vxelmZRvanelobT – rukis naxva, kodireba, dastikereba – yvelafers moicavs, magram pandemiis gamo Seferxda muSaoba. dasasrulebelia axali saflavebis dasuraTeba da programaSi Seyvana. rodesac procesi srulad Sedgeba, yovel dakrZalvas da saflavis registraciis nomers ukve avtomaturad SeviyvanT programaSi, rac gaaiolebs da gaaTanamedrovebs Cvens muSaobas.
– vandalizmis SemTxvevebi iyo adre. . .
– adre – ki, axla dacvac gavaZliereT da patrulTan erTad kontroldeba teritoriebi. Tamaris dasaxlebis policia mudmiv kavSirSia CvenTan, Zalian gvexmareba.
– gare ganaTeba Tua yvelgan damontaJebuli?
– is Cems am postze daniSvnamdec iyo damontaJebuli, centraluri Semosasvlelebi ganaTebulia. ramdenime Tvis win qariSxalma dagviziana sanaTurebi, magram ukve aRvadgineT, eklesiis mimdebare teritoriac ganaTebulia. gegmaSi gvaqvs sanaTebis damateba da videokamerebis dayeneba, rac Zalian bevr sirTules mogvixsnis. dRes iseTi droa, rom aseTi teqnika yvela organizacias unda hqondes damontaJebuli, gansakuTrebiT ki sasaflaos, sadac yvelaze metad aris mosalodneli kriminaluri SemTxvevebi. imedi gvaqvs, male Seikribeba baTumis sakrebulo da SevZlebT am sakiTxis gatanas. Tuki gamoiZebneba saxsrebi, Zalian kargi iqneba.
