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lado WiqaSvils (beselia) sazogadoeba socialur qselSi ineza kemularias saxeliT icnobs. axalgazrda emigranti ukve wlebia, berlinSia da megruli iumoriT gajerebul video-sketCebs aqtiurad aqveynebs. ladom maleve moipova xalxis siyvaruli da internetsivrceSi sakmaod bevri gamomweric hyavs. Cvens interviuSi igi germaniaSi wasvlaze gvesaubreba da mis personaJzec bevr saintereso detals gvimxels.
– lado, Tqvens bavSvobasa da ojaxze gviambeT . . .
– TiTqos aravisgan gansxvavebuli, Tumca dasamaxsovrebeli bavSvoba mqonda. vizualuradac ar vgavdi sxvebs da es xasiaTSic Canda. qera, cisferTvaleba, mxiaruli da, amavdroulad, gulCaTxrobili viyavi. ratomRac yovelTvis `didobaze~ vocnebobdi. senakis raionSi, sofel nosirSi, glexebis ojaxSi davibade. mogexsenebaT, mZime 90-iani wlebi iyo saqarTveloSi da am fonze ojaxSi 3 Svili vizrdebodiT – ori da da me. patara asakidanve gavacnobiere, rom bavSvuri moTxovnebi droebiT gverdiT unda gadamedo, radgan vxedavdi, rom Cems mSoblebs saSualeba ar hqondaT. bevri dardiani Rame mqonda. vnatrobdi imas, rac, albaT, sxvisTvis arafers niSnavda. vnatrobdi purs, sulis simSvides da dedis saxeze – Rimils. deda iyo imis magaliTi, Tu rogori unda iyos kargi mSobeli, meuRle, megobari, mezobeli . . .
– bavSvobis yvelaze mZafri mogoneba, romelic ar gaviwydebaT . . .
– zamTris susxiani dRe iyo. gadaTeTrebuli, gayinuli garemo. Cveni saxlidan kvamlic ar amodioda, radgan SeSa ar gvqonda. romeli deda SeZlebda gayinul `feCTan~ mjdomi Svilebis sabralo gamometyvelebisTvis ecqira? maxsovs, tyeSi wavediT totebis mosagroveblad, patara najaxiT. deda win, me ukan mivkvalavT Tovls, saidanac, albaT, mxolod Cemi Tavi Canda. kilometrobiT vSordebodiT saxls da sadRac Suagul tyeSi viwyebdiT totebis moWras. dedas xelebi waeyina da cremlebi waskda tkivilisgan. me suls vuberavdi mis xelebs, vuTbobdi da veubnebodi, rom yvelaferi kargad iqneboda, vumeorebdi, rom miyvars da madlieri var misi. am rTuli bavSvobis dros weliwadSi erTxel an orjer amodioda Cemi `mze~ baTumidan. roca dabindebisas saxlis WiSkars manqanis Suqi dakravda, im dros, albaT, yvelaze bednieri viyavi, radgan Cemi sayvareli biZa modioda. maviwydeboda yvela dardi, wuxili, SimSili . . . TiTqmis yovel zafxuls baTumSi vatarebdiT biZasTan, amitomac miyvars es qalaqi gamorCeulad, aq Tavs vgrZnob, rogorc sakuTar saxlSi. is surnelic ki miyvars, gawvimebis Semdeg rom icis.
– romeli profesia airCieT da ratom?
– yovelTvis mindoda, msaxiobi an mocekvave gamovsuliyavi. xSirad viRebdi skolis RonisZiebebSi monawileobas, patara asakidanve miCveuli viyavi aplodismentebs, xalxisgan yuradRebas da komplimentebs, rac Zalian maxarebda. yvela miwinaswarmetyvelebda, rom kargi msaxiobi, mocekvave gamovidodi, magram zogjer ise ar xdeba, rogorc vfiqrobT da vgegmavT. biZaCemis rCeviT, daveufle sarestorno saqmes. mec gamiCnda survili, gamovsuliyavi restoratori da mqonoda Cemi restorani. roca dro dadga, rom msaxiobobaSic mecada bedi, am dros Cems cxovrebaSi yvelaferi Seicvala – 2014 wels deda daiRupa (traileri daejaxa misive samsaxuris ezoSi) . . . roca es ambavi Selamazebuli formiT gavige, baTumSi erT-erT maRaziaSi vmuSaobdi konsultantad. urTulesi da umZimesia baTumidan soflamde ganvlili gzis gaxseneba. ezoSi SesvlisTanave daemxo mTeli samyaro da didi laqa gaCnda Cems cxovrebaSi, romelic dRemde momyveba. Cven gansakuTrebuli urTierToba gvqonda (gvaqvs!)…
– risi keTeba gsiamovnebdaT yvelaze metad?
– zogadad, Zalian xelmarjve var (mamisgan gamomyva), yvelafris keTeba SemiZlia. pataraobidan vqmnidi suvenirebs, samkaulebs, sayofacxovrebo nivTebs, vwerdi leqsebs. yvelaze did sulier simSvides Tevzaoba maniWebda. didi xania, ar miTevzavia (aq licenzia sWirdeba). vmegobrob cxovelebsa da yvavilebTan. Cvens did, mwvane ezoSi RilebiviT mofenili TeTri gvirilebi iyo. is menatreba . . .
– gansakuTrebuli hobi Tu gaqvT?
– ar vici, es ramdenadaa hobi, magram sxvebis gaxareba, siurprizebis keTeba miyvars, aseve, tyeSi seirnoba da antikvaruli nivTebis Segroveba.
– rodis da ratom waxvediT sazRvargareT?
– yvelas Tavisi istoria aqvs, roca emigraciaSi midis, magram saqarTvelodan wasvlis ZiriTadi mizezi finansuri problemaa. saqarTveloSi dRe da Rame vmuSaobdi, magram SeuZlebeli gaxda ojaxis rCena. bavSvobidan germaniaSi cxovrebaze vocnebobdi, wasvlis mizezi ki erT germanelTan saubari gaxda – albaT, 5 wlis viqnebodi, martvilSi samusiko studiis koncerti rom Catarda. misi dasrulebis Semdeg dedasTan germaneli turisti mivida TarjimanTan erTad da uTxra, rom me didi momavali meqneboda germaniaSi, Tu mas gavyvebodi. dedam auxsna, rom amisTvis Zalian patara viyavi, mas ki ar SeeZlo CemTan erTad wasvla. gamiCnda mizani, rom menaxa germania. roca dadga es etapi, Zalian rTuli gzis gavla momixda. jer poloneTSi vicxovre. moxda isec, rom binidan gamagdes 13 gradus yinvaSi, ucxo qalaqSi. ar vicodi, sad wavsuliyavi. qalaqis xidze videqi Ramis 4 saaTze da CemTvis vambobdi, rom ar unda davnebebuliyavi. diliT polonelebis ojaxma Semifara. 1 Tve vcxovrobdi maTTan, Semdeg, qarTvelebis daxmarebiT, germaniaSi vipove samsaxuri. Tavidan imedgacruebuli viyavi, radgan restoranSi minimalur xelfasze vmuSaobdi 17 saaTis ganmavlobaSi. diliT 7 saaTze viwyebdi sapirfareSoebis, darbazebis dalagebas. Semdeg samzareuloSi mrecxavad vmuSaobdi, Tan mzareuls vexmarebodi. ase gadioda wlebi. erT dResac Cemi `monoba~ davasrule da qalaqi Sevicvale. bevri ram viswavle. 3 weli aralegalurad vcxovrobdi, 3 wlis Semdeg pirvelad davbrundi samSobloSi. es ufro mtkivneuli iyo, vidre daSoreba, Tumca 3 Tvis Semdeg isev germaniaSi davbrundi.
– amJamad ras saqmianobT?
– ukve weliwad-naxevaria, rac berlinSi vcxovrob, yvelaze komfortulad aq var. amJamad vmuSaob qarTul restoranSi – servisSi. win bevri gegmebi maqvs. arasdros vnebdebi, radgan vici, es qalaqi da es qveyana yvelafers momcems, rac mWirdeba.
– rogoria Tqveni yoveldRiuroba?
– Tavidan gamiWirda maTi cxovrebis ritmSi Cajdoma, radgan dRe Zalian adre – 6 saaTze iwyeba. jer erT samsaxurSi mivdivar, Semdeg meoreSi, zogjer kviraSi 2 dRe visveneb da vcdilob, megobrebTan erTad, qalaqgareT gavide. aseve, aucileblad vitoveb dros ojaxTan satelefono saubrisTvis, rac Cemi aq yofnisTvis sasicocxlod aucilebelia. vesaubrebi moxuc bebias da didi emociebiT vivsebi. vixsenebT erTad gatarebul dros. aseve vesaubrebi Cems debs da 7 disSvils, sul didi Jriamulia da mamxneveben emigraciaSi myof biZas.
– sakmaod bevri gamomweri gyavs socialur qselSi. Sens personaJze mogviyevi . . .
– emigraciis pirveli dRidan Zalian aqtiuri gavxdi socialur qselebSi. es iyo erTaderTi gza, rom vyofiliyavi ojaxsa da samSoblosTan axlos. samwuxarod, sxva qveynidan ufro SesamCnevi gaxda Cemi qveynis problemebi da amaze aucileblad unda mesaubra, magram ase, pirdapir, aravin momismenda. bevri vifiqre da bolos iumoriT naTqvami simarTle vamjobine. gaCnda idea, rom es yvelaferi megrel qals eTqva – ineza kemularias SeeZlo esaubra daufaravad imaze, rac sinamdvileSi lados, anu me mawuxebda. personaJis istoria misi piradi cxovrebiT iwyeba. ineza kemularia warmoSobiT afxazeTSi, kerZod, galSi, megrul ojaxSi dabadebuli pirveli qaliSvilia. is gviyveba, rom uzrunvelad gazarda mamam da pedagogma dedam. Semdeg gaTxovda zugdidSi, SamaTavebis ojaxSi, pirveli uiRblo qorwilidan mas ori Svili hyavs – lana da nikuSa. didi ojaxuri konfliqtis Semdeg daSorda meuRles da gaudga emigraciis gzas (aq ukve lados vamsgavseb). bevri ram gaiara inezam da SemTxveviT gadaeyara germanel buRalters, momaval meuRles, romelTanac cota uWirs, radgan mentaluri gansxvavebaa maT Soris. ineza ra kolxia, Tu misi kultura Sesaferisad ar warmoaCina da daanaxa germanel meuRle `iurgenas~?! (icinis). personaJi ineza ramdenime megreli qalis nazavia (maT Soris Cemi ramdenime mezobeli soflidan da maswavlebeli). mas mtkice xasiaTi aqvs, upirobod kargi patrioti da Zalian Sromismoyvarea, dauRalavi da samagaliTo dedaa . . . simarTle giTxraT, ar velodi aseT gamoxmaurebas. didi madloba TiToeul Cems mayurebels da gulSematkivars, rom Seiyvara `ineza~ da me. mogexsenebaT, qalbaton inezas sakuTari feisbuqgverdi aqvs, aseve instagrami da yoveldRiurad ekontaqteba mayurebels. yoveldRe aTi aTasobiT esemesi Semosdis, romelsac SeZlebisdagvarad pasuxobs da Tanabrad unawilebs yvelas siyvarulsa da siTbos. sxvaTa Soris, Zalian aqtiurebi arian emigraciaSi myofi qarTvelebi. gansakuTrebiT megrelebi.
– yvelaze bednieri xarT, roca . . .
– roca sxvas vaxareb da mis saxeze Rimils vxedav.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– ramdenime megaproeqti maqvs, rac Cemi qveynis, regionis, soflis popularizacias Seuwyobs xels. maT Soris, erT-erTi im axalgazrdebisTvis Sevqmeni, visac Zalian uWirs profesiis arCeva. aseve, miznad davisaxe socialurad daucvel xalxs Sesaferisi Tanadgoma gavuwio. saidumlosac gagimxelT: aucileblad meqneba qarTuli kafe berlinSi da vecdebi, sul sxva mxridan davanaxo samyaros Cveni kultura, tradicia Tu samzareulo. es didi pasuxismgebloba da riskia, radgan Seni qveynis saxeli gagaqvs qveynis gareT, amitom, am etapze, ufro met dros ganaTlebas, sakuTari Tavis ganviTarebas davuTmob, Zalian bevrs vimogzaureb da, vfiqrob, aqtiuri cxovreba meqneba.
