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poeti poetiSvili – am fsevdonimiT icnoben literaturul wreebSi baTumel poet paata surmaniZes, romlis leqsebis pirveli krebuli `tita fuJerSi~ axlaxan daaWaSnikes poeziis moyvarulebma da moiwones kidec. aseve yuradRebas ipyrobs am axalgazrda Semoqmedis mier feisbuqze Seqmnili literaturuli gverdi `msoflio poeziis biblioTeka~.
dRes paata Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– literaturul samyaroSi umetesad fsevdonimiT CanxarT – poeti poetiSvili . . . cnobismoyvareobas aRviZebT, maS, ase, Tqven, Tqveni fsevdonimi saidan modixarT?
– upirvelesad, mivesalmebi gazeT `aWaris~ mkiTxvelebs da did madlobas gixdiT interviusTvis. me var paata surmaniZe, dabadebuli ozurgeTis raionis daba laiTurSi, magram Cemi cxovrebis didi periodi dakavSirebulia baTumTan, aWarasTan. studenturi periodi, samxedro savaldebulo samsaxuri, aseve Cemi sxva – samoqalaqo samsaxurebic baTums ukavSirdeba, amJamadac aq vmuSaob da vcxovrob. rac Seexeba fsevdonims, misi erTi nawili – `poeti~ jars ukavSirdeba, radgan jarSi, periodulad, poeziis saRamoebs vmarTavdi, sadac, ZiriTadad, patriotul leqsebs vkiTxulobdi da jariskacebSi kidev ufro vzrdidi patriotul suliskveTebas, romelic isedac ar akldaT. ai, ase – `poetiT~ mommarTavda jarSi yvela, fsevdonimis meore nawili – `poetiSvili~ ki Cemi gamogonilia, rac gulisxmobs poet naTela SainiZis Svilobas da aseve, Cemi `sulieri mamis~ – galaktionis Svilobasac.
– mraval literaturul gamocemaSi ibeWdebiT. rogoria mkiTxvelTa gamoxmaurebebi?
– diax, am bolo xans mraval literaturul gamocemaSi vibeWdebi, esenia: Jurnali `Woroxi~, romelmac pirvelma dabeWda Cemi leqsebi, aseve, 2022 wlis meore nomerSi gamoaqveyna Cemi ramdenime leqsi. xSirad ibeWdeba Cemi leqsebi da poemebi Jurnal `isindSi~, `mwerlis gazeTSi~, Jurnal `afinaJSi~, almanax `xornabujSi~, `literaturul saqarTveloSi~, `literaturul guriaSi~, Jurnal `aneulSi~, `pirvel sxivSi~ da sxva. mkiTxvelTa gamoxmaurebebi, ZiriTadad, dadebiTia, rac ufro met stimuls maZlevs.
– Tqveni leqsebi iTargmna da daibeWda inglisurad da frangulad . . .
– diax, Cemi ramdenime leqsi inglisurad Targmna qalbatonma mzia kvirikaSvilma da Seitana Tanamedrove qarTveli poetebis anTologiis `sulieri xidis~ pirvel tomSi, romelic gamosca inglisSi. aseve Cemi erTi leqsi `aqtrisa~ frangulad Targmna qalbatonma marina gogolaSvilma.
– feisbuqze literaturuli gverdi SeqmeniT. Canafiqrma gaamarTla?
– feisbuqze sami welia, rac Sevqmeni literaturuli gverdi `msoflio poeziis biblioTeka~, sadac vaqveyneb nawarmoebebs gilgameSis eposidan dawyebuli Tanamedrove poeziis CaTvliT (antikuri poezia, sparsuli, arabuli, induri eposi, franguli, inglisuri, germanuli, italiuri, rusuli, ukrainuli da sxva qveynebis poezia . . . ) Cemi Canafiqri iyo da aris mkiTxvelTa literaturuli geografiis sazRvrebis usazRvrod gazrda, rac garkveulwilad gamomdis. mravali adamiani ecnoba Cems literaturul gverdze gamoqveynebul teqstebs. vfiqrob, kidev ufro davaaxlove erTmaneTTan literaturuli samkuTxedis warmomadgenlebi – avtori, teqsti, mkiTxveli.
– `tita fuJerSi~ – Tqveni leqsebis es krebuli yuradRebis arealSi moeqca, iyo gamoxmaurebebi . . . romels gamoarCevT? vin waikiTxa da Caswvda Tqvens Canafiqrs?
– `tita fuJerSi~ Cemi pirveli poeturi krebulia, romlis redaqtori da winasityvaobis avtoria cnobili mwerali ika qadagiZe. bevri kargi gamoxmaureba mohyva am wigns cnobili mwerlebisgan da mkiTxvelebisgan. gamovarCevdi qalbaton JuJuna SainiZis statias: `var jvarze cmuli gala vnebidan~, anu mamisa da Zis damokidebulebis sakiTxi paata surmaniZis (poet poetiSvilis) poeziaSi~, marsianis (gia beniZis) leqss – `poetpoetiSviluri~, elene demetraZis werils, Temur marSaniSvilis eqspromtad minawers wignze, Tam javaxiSvilis leqss – `minaweri wignze `tita fuJerSi~.
– `am bolo xanebSi imdeni koleqtiuri kolau gamomiCnda, xandaxan Tavi galaktioni mgonia~ – am iumoristuli frazis miRma gulistkivilic imaleba, xom?
– cxadia. gulistkivili im adamianebis mimarT, romlebic mizanmimarTulad mtkenen guls, Tumca bolo xanebSi msgavs qmedebebze aranairi reaqcia aRar maqvs, Tavidan ki Zalian ganvicdidi. samwuxarod, yvela warmatebuli adamianis xvedria TiToorola, salieris sindromiT Sepyrobili adamianis mxridan mtroba.
– poetisa da literaturismcodne JuJuna SainiZis mier gzis dalocvam da Tqveni poeziis siRrmiseulma analizma, albaT, ufro CagafiqraT, ras SesTavazebT samomavlod mkiTxvels.
– qalbaton JuJuna SainiZis siRrmiseulma statiam Cems wignze mkiTxvels TvalnaTliv daanaxa Cemi ZiriTadi poeturi orientirebi. statia daibeWda literaturul Jurnal `isindSi~. samomavlod mkiTxvels bevr poetur siurprizs vpirdebi, wels ki vgegmav franguli ciklis leqsebis wignad gamocemas. maTi nawili ukve daibeWda Jurnal `isindSi~, `literaturul guriaSi~, ibeWdeba `afinaJSi~ da almanax `xornabujSi~.
– galaktionTan gansakuTrebuli damokidebuleba gaqvT . . . Tqveni `galaktionis hematria~ amas mowmobs.
– galaktionTan rom gansakuTrebuli siaxlove maqvs, bevri ram metyvelebs, upirvelesad is, rom orive 17 noembers varT dabadebulebi da sxva mravali kosmiuri kavSiric gvaqvs. Cemi pirveli wignic sworedac galaktions da Cems uaxloes megobar jeni CxeiZes eZRvneba, `galaktionis hematriaze~ sanam visaubrebT, jer ganvumartoT mkiTxvels am sityvis mniSvneloba. hematria niSnavs saxelis ricxviT mniSvnelobaSi gadayvanas. galaktionis ricxviTi mniSvnelobis jami udris 99-s (3+1+12+1+11+21 +10+16+14+10=99), 99 ki aris RmerTis ricxvi qarTuli kabaliT, rac niSnavs, rom galaktionis saxelSi RmerTis ricxvia kodirebuli, amitom roca galaktions `galaqtioniT~ moixsenieben, maSin irRveva is kosmiuri energia, rac am saxelSia davanebuli.
– Cvens literaturul garemoze, amJamad mimdinare procesebze xSirad ukmayofilebas gamoTqvamT . . .
– Cemi ukmayofileba, ZiriTadad, ganpirobebulia mikerZoebuli da araobieqturi literaturuli konkursebiT, romlebic metwilad aignoreben karg poetebs susti poetebis `warmosaCenad~.
– baTumeli xarT, aq cxovrobT, magram ver iRebT im muxts, rac gWirdebaT. guli axla parizisken migiwevT, leqsebis ciklsac amzadebT. es Tqveni TviTrealizaciisaTvis aucileblad migaCniaT?
– piriqiT, sworedac baTumidan viReb im poetur impulsebs, romlebsac Semdeg leqsebad gardavqmni. Cemi leqsebis didi nawili swored baTumSia dawerili da misiT xSirad var STagonebuli. baTums aqvs is poeturi landSafti, riTac Semoqmedma adamianma muzis bevri inspiracia SeiZleba miiRos. rac Seexeba parizisken Cems swrafvasa da ltolvas, es maradiuli siyvarulis ZiebiT aris ganpirobebuli. Cemi saboloo mizani parizis asparezze Cemi momavali wigniT – `fran-guliT~ wardgomaa. vimedovneb, gverdiT damidgebian Sesabamisi uwyebebi, rom frangulad iTargmnos es wigni.
– ramdenime mkiTxvelma feisbuqze komentarebSi aRniSna, rom Tqven xarT poeti 22-e saukunidan, anu dros uswrebT. modiT, axla prozaulad mogviTxreT, rogoria Tqveni warmosaxviT 22-e saukune. unda gvixarodes?
– xSiria msgavsi komentarebi, Tanac kompetenturi adamianebisgan da poetebisgan, romlebisganac msgavsi mosazrebis mosmena sasiamovnoa. teqnologiebi ise swrafad viTardeba, rom 22-e saukuneSi bunebriv poetebs seriozul poetur konkurencias gauweven xelovnuri (roboti) poetebi, daiwereba leqsebi, romlebsac Wkviani kompiuteri dawers da araprofesionali mkiTxvelisTvis Zneli iqneba bunebrivisgan maTi garCeva.
– Tqveni inspiraciis wyaroebi . . .
– inspiraciis wyaro SeiZleba nebismieri ram aRmoCndes, dakonkreteba gamiWirdeba, magram ramdenimes mogaxsenebT – maradiuli siyvarulis Zieba, samSoblo, deda, Tavad poezia, magiuri saxelebi.
– adamianebi, vinc giyvarT da gavseben, gaxareben . . .
– zogadad, siyvarulis gacema Cemi ZiriTadi adamianuri Tvisebaa, magram kargia, roca siyvaruls gascem da bumerangis principiT Tu ara, gacemuli siyvarulis raRac nawili mainc gibrundeba. swored iseTi adamianebisken viltvi, romlebic siyvaruliT mavseben.
– ra gaxarebT yvelaze metad, ra aRgafrTovanebT?
– yvelaze metad gaxarebuli maSin var, roca deda kargad aris, aseve mixaria saqarTvelos moqalaqis warmateba saerTaSoriso asparezze. rom SemeZlos sxvadasxva droSi cxovreba, cota xniT warsulSi vicxovrebdi da cota xniTac – momavalSi. raki es SeuZlebelia, amitom poeturi odiseiT vmogzaurob poeziis da samyaros garSemo. Cemi sicocxlis xarjze im adamianebs gavacocxlebdi, vinc maklia, maT Soris galaktions da cota xniT erTad vimoRvawevebdiT da vimegobrebdiT, rogorc Samse Tavrizeli da rumi.
– `brZnad metyvelebai~ wamalia – ase swamdaT Cvens winaprebs, axla ki yvela kuTxe-kunWulidan iginebian. rogor unda ewamlos am sens?
– Zalian rTuli sakiTxia da am senis damarcxeba arcTu ioli saqme iqneba, amitom sazogadoebis yvela rgolma erToblivad unda vimuSaoT am sakiTxis mosagvareblad.
– vTqvaT, miemgzavrebiT sxva planetaze, ras waiRebdiT?
– vazis kalmebs da titis bolqvebs waviRebdi da gavaxarebdi, titis yvaviliT Sevsvamdi dawurul cqriala Rvino `galaktions~, romelic gamoiwvevda Cems sulier Trobas da eqstazs, aseve, waviRebdi msoflio poeziis biblioTekas.
– Tqveni gzavnili Cvens mkiTxvelebs, Tanaqalaqelebs . . .
– Cemi uangaro siyvaruli yvela mkiTxvels da yvela baTumels.