“როგორც მთის შვილი და, ამასთან, ექიმი, ჩემს ხალხს ვერ მივატოვებ”
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sxalTis xeobaSi eqimebis naklebobas yovelTvis ganicdidnen. ukrainis respublikidan, qveynis sxvadasxva regionidan movlinebulma am profesiis adamianebma sapatio wvlili Seitanes xeobis mosaxleobis janmrTelobis dacvaSi. adgilobrivebis Rvawlic dasafasebelia. dResac, sxalTis, fuSrukaulis, xixaZiris, Txilvanis pirveladi jandacvis centrebs kvalificiuri eqimebi xelmZRvaneloben. Cveni stumaria Txilvanis pirveladi jandacvis centris eqimi gizo gorgilaZe.
– profesiis arCevisas bevri ar mifiqria, stimuli babuaCemis saqmianobam momca – is sxvadasxva saxis mcenareebisgan xalxuri receptiT wamlebs amzadebda da usasyidlod exmareboda xalxs ama Tu im daavadebis gankurnebaSi. sxalTis TemSi mas kargad icnobdnen. merve Tu mecxre klasSi viqnebodi, rom gadavwyvite eqimi gavmxdariyavi. es Zalian sapasuxismgeblo profesiaa, amavdroulad, sasiamovnoc, radgan saSualeba gaqvs avadmyofs gansacdelis Jams daexmaro da tkivili Seumsubuqo. es uflisgan boZebuli umaRlesi jildoa.
– Txilvanis pirveladi jandacvis centrSi Tqveni winamorbedebis muSaobas rogor SeafasebT?
– Txilvanis Temis soflebi xulos centridan Zalian Sorsaa, TiTqmis TurqeTis sazRvarTan mdebareobs. ramdenadac vici, siSorisa da SromiTi anazRaurebis simciris gamo, ambulatorias ar hyavda eqimi, amitom samedicino saqmianobas, misi kompetenciis farglebSi, mxolod eqTani nazibrola mamulaZe didi datvirTviT asrulebda. Txilvanis ambulatoriaSi muSaoba 2016 wlidan daviwye da TiTqmis yvelaferi nulidan avawyve rogorc samedicino, ise menejmentis kuTxiT: pacientTa miRebis samedicino baraTebi, bavSvTa Tu zrdasrulTa registraciis Jurnalebi, qronikul pacientTa aRricxvis Jurnalebi, pacientTa vaqcinacia, skriningi, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, mwvave Tu qronikuli daavadebis mqone pacientTa qalaqis klinikebSi gadayvana-daxmarebis sakiTxi movawesrige.
– ojaxis roli Tqvens pirovnebad CamoyalibebaSi?
– ojaxs Zalian didi roli akisria Cems rogorc pirovnebad, aseve, eqimad CamoyalibebaSi. ojaxis yvela wevri pativs scemda Cems arCevans da maqsimalurad gverdSi medga, gansakuTrebiT aRvniSnav mamidaCemis wvlils, romelTanac studentobis wlebi gavatare. faqtobrivad, arafers iSurebdnen, rom srulfasovnad davuflebodi arCeul profesias da vyofiliyavi pasuxismgebliani, keTilsindisieri da warmatebuli eqimi.
– pandemiis pirobebSi muSaoba ioli ar iyo . . .
– pandemia didi gamowveva iyo yvela eqimisTvis. vmuSaobdi datvirTuli grafikiT, dRisiTa Tu RamiT. gansakuTrebiT rTuli iyo zamTris periodi. didTovlobis gamo soflebSi satransporto gza iketeboda da xSirad davdiodi gamoZaxebaze xan fexiT, xan traqtoriT. daavadebac axali iyo, amitom miwevda bevri axali informaciis moZieba, swavlebebSi monawileoba daavadebis swori marTvisa da pacientis gamojanmrTelebis mizniT.
– profesiiT endokrinologi rogor axerxebdiT axali koronavirusiT dasnebovnebul pacientebTan muSaobas?
– koronavirusuli infeqcia rTulad mimdinareobs, ZiriTadad, asakovan adamianebSi da im pirebSi, visac qronikuli daavadebebi aqvs. profesiiT endokrinologisa da ojaxis eqimisTvis, ra Tqma unda, Tavidan ar iyo martivi mZime pacientebis marTva, magram dauRalavi SromiT, swavlebebisa da praqtikuli saqmianobiT dagrovili codnis safuZvelze, bevri ram SevZeli.
– daasaxeleT cnobili endokrinologi, romlis Teorias praqtikaSi iyenebT?
– klinikuri ordinatura gaviare ukrainaSi, kievSi, endokrinologiis kvleviT centrSi, sadac vmuSaobdi kidec. iq daveufle srulfasovnad endokrinologias profesor-maswavleblebisa da akademikos andrei efremovis xelmZRvanelobiT. xSirad davdivar konferenciebze da vcdilob viswavlo is, rac axalia. saqarTveloSi mravali niWieri endokrinologi da profesoria, romlebic gvaswavlian da gviziareben sakuTar Teoriebs, praqtikul gamocdilebas, gvarebs ar vasaxeleb.
– ra gaswavlaT skolam?
– megobroba, Sromismoyvareoba, pasuxismgebloba, momca codna, romelmac gza gamikafa studentobisaken.
– sayvareli maswavlebeli?
– biologiis maswavlebeli g. gorgilaZe, qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavlebeli, klasis damrigebeli b. surmaniZe.
– raa mTavari, ojaxi harmoniuli rom iyos?
– urTierTgageba, siyvaruli, pativiscema. vfiqrob, am harmonias mivaRwie. meuRlec eqimia da yvela sakiTxs gagebiT vudgebiT.
– Soreul soflebSi samuSaod wasvlaze rogor dagiyolies?
– rogorc sxva kvalificiuri eqimi, mec vmuSaob qalaqis erT-erT did klinikaSi, magram vcxovrob sxalTis TemSi. simarTle giTxraT, Tavidan didi survili ar mqonda, ase Sors memuSava, magram me eqimi var, eqimi ki xalxis samsaxurSi unda iyos. gulTan mivitane Txilvanis Temis gamgeblis, aseve mosaxleobis Txovna da dRemde maTTan var.
– sxva specialobazec xom ar migiwevdaT guli?
– Cems Tavs yovelTvis medicinaSi vxedavdi, sxva SemTxvevaSi, albaT, dizainer-mxatvari viqnebodi.
– raa mTavari, pacientis siyvaruli da pativiscema rom daimsaxuro?
– samedicino eTikis dacva, ndoba da rwmena imisa, rom pacients aucileblad moarCen, miRweuli SedegiT ki mis pativiscemas daimsaxureb.
– yovelTvis gulaxdili xarT?
– pacientis miRebis dros ise unda Segrovdes anamnezi, rom eqimi ki ara, is gaxdes gulaxdili, raTa sworad Sefasdes daavadeba da swori diagnozi daisvas. Tu pirovnulad gulgaxsnili ar var, imitom, rom ar miyvars sakuTari problemebis sxvisTvis Tavs moxveva.
– Svilebs ras usurvebT? gindaT, gaagrZelon Tqveni profesia?
– ar vfiqrob, rom Tu mSoblebi eqimebi arian, nebis miuxedavad, Svili aucileblad eqimi unda iyos. es ar aris swori. vcdilob, xeli Sevuwyo Cems Svils, raTa skolidan wamoiRos codnis maqsimumi da ra profesiasac airCevs, is CemTvis misaRebi iqneba.
– ramdenad misaRebia TqvenTvis TurqeTidan Semotanili wamlebiT mkurnaloba?
– Cvens qveyanaSi medikamentebi Zalian Zviri Rirs da es saxelmwifos bralia! saqarTveloSi 95 procenti ucxouri warmoebis medikamentia, ra Tqma unda, misaRebia am medikamentebiT mkurnaloba, magram originali da xarisxiani medikamenti yovelTvis Zviria. me yovelTvis vcdilob, xarisxiani medikamenti gamoviyeno, rac pacientis mkurnalobis Sedegze aisaxeba, aseve, eqimis imijzec.
– profesia kievSi aimaRleT, axla im qveyanaSi omia. qarTveli eqimebi ukrainaSi wasvlis survils gamoTqvamen. Tqven?
– 2014 wels, roca kievSi, maidanze, `Rirsebis revolucia~ iyo, iq vimyofebodi, vmuSaobdi da Zalian bevr moqalaqesa Tu jariskacs davexmare. axlac siamovnebiT davudgebodi ukrainas gverdiT Cemi profesiuli saqmianobiT.
– gaagrZelebT mTaSi muSaobas Tu . . .
– rogorc aRvniSne, vmuSaob qalaqSi, erT- erT did klinikaSi, aseve, Txilvanis pirveladi jandacvis centrSi. rogorc mTis Svili da eqimi, Cems xalxs ver mivatoveb, yovelTvis vidgebi maTTan, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi.
– xixanis cixes, sxalTis xeobas turistebi ar aklia. Tu gaixsenebT vizitiors, romelsac samedicino daxmareba gauwieT?
– ramdenime msubuqi SemTxveva iyo, pirveladi daxmareba gavuwie da madlieri gavacile, Tan gaocebuli, rom sofelSi eqimi iyo.
– dabolos, lirikuli gadaxveva – sayvareli poeti Tu gyavT?
– zurab gorgilaZe da galaktion tabiZe.
