,,ლიტერატურა ადამიანის სულის, უმაღლესი აზრის ყვავილებია”
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`. . .da surs suls Cemsas sxva sivrceSi gaengureba~, – ambobs poeti, afxazeTidan ltolvili mari JRenti da am sityvebiT imuxtebi, metadre, roca ecnobi mis cxovrebas, mis Rvawls, mis naazrevsa da nafiqrals, mis leqsebs. . . marTlac, WeSmaritad ganaTlebuli goneba ganuzomeli sikeTea, es RmerTia CvenSi, siyvaruliT rom gvavsebs da gvaZlierebs. axlaxan TbilisSi, mweralTa saxlSi mari JRentis poeziis saRamoze es mTeli sicxadiT warmoCnda. dRes is Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– mdidari cxovrebiseuli gamocdileba gaqvT, saintereso biografia. . . modiT, Cvens mkiTxvels gaacaniT sakuTari persona – vin dgas mari JRentis – am saxelis miRma. . .
– is mari JRenti, romelSic me vigulisxmebi, erTi Cveulebrivi, mokrZalebuli adamiania, arafriT gamorCeuli sxvebisgan. ubralod, Tavad cxovreba mergo sirTuleebiT, Warbi tkivilebiT da xifaTebiT aRsavse. rasakvirvelia, yoveli `saSiSi mosaxvevi~ dauyovnebliv reaqcias moiTxovs, mec xSirad iZulebuli gaxldiT arcTu saxarbielo garemoebebisTvis gameca pasuxi. mama – is pedagogi iyo – ar maxsovs. adre wavida am qveynidan. dedac TiTqmis bavSvma davkarge. pirveli `gaqvakldevebis~ gakveTili maSin miviRe: cocxali var? ese igi, wuTisofelTan xelSekruleba dadebuli maqvs, xelSekruleba, romelsac Tavisi valdebulebebi mohyveba! unda gavuZlo da viarsebo! Rirseulad! da me gavuZeli! Tavad vTvli, rom Rirseulad! ojaxi naadrevad Sevqmeni, esec garemoebaTa karnaxiT. ar mgonia, mkiTxvelis gulisaCuyeba oblis cxovrebis mZime epizodebiT marTebuli iyos, Tqveni nebarTviT, bavSvoba-ymawvilobis periodze arafers vityvi. profesiiT filologi var, magram mTeli cxovreba Jurnalistikas mivuZRveni. daviwye afxazeTis saolqo gazeTis `afxazeTis xmis~ korespondentobidan. qarTuli erovnuli moZraobis aRorZinebisa da gaZlierebis periodSi viyavi helsinkis kavSiris regionuli organizaciis gazeT `oqros sawmisis~ (didi `oqros sawmisis~ erTgvari gagrZeleba) mTavari redaqtori. mTeli Cveni SesaZleblobiT gverdiT vedeqiT qarTul erovnul moZraobas. miuxedavad koniunqturuli valdebulebisa, ar Sevsulvar arcerT politikur partiasa Tu kavSirSi, garda, mogvianebiT, `erovnuli Tanxmobis kavSirisa~ da kidev ufro gvian, ruseTSi cxovrebis periodSi, `adamianis konstituciur da samoqalaqo uflebaTa dacvis saerTaSoriso asociaciisa~, sadac mmarTveli sabWos wevri gaxldiT. am bolo xans gavxdi `saqarTvelos mweralTa SemoqmedebiTi kavSiris~ wevri, rac CemTvis didi pativia.
– ganvlil gzas rom gascqeriT, mogoneba, romelic Tan gdevT. . .
– modiT, SesaZleblobisdagvarad mokled getyviT ramdenime maTgans – mwaresac da tkbilsac. es iqneba erTgvari gzavnili mkiTxvelisTvis. ras vgulisxmob, darwmunebuli var, yvela mixvdeba. mogonebaTagan pirveli da umZafresi, romelic Tan mdevs, dedis Tvalebia, rodesac is memSvidobeboda mkacri cxovrebis pirispir martod darCenils. . . da misi bolo sityvebi: ar SeSinde, Svilo! da me ar meSinia urTulesi garemoebebis, radgan vici: arsebobs raRac kidev uaresi. da rom am `uaresamde~ ar mivide, dauyovnebliv veZeb gamosavals. gana marTla vinme uSiSari var? erTi patara, mfrTxali qali! paradoqsia? ara – krizisul situaciaSi SiSisTvis dro ar mrCeba. meore Tanmdevi mogoneba: rodesac cecxlmodebuli soxumidan gamovrbodiT (es pirvelad – `dazavebamde~), zRvaze, napirTan karWapi idga, mis gverdiT ki gemi (didi Relvis gamo ar SeiZleboda, gemi ufro axlos mosuliyo napirTan), romelsac baTumSi unda gadaveyvaneT. jer am `buferad~ gamoyenebul karWapze unda avsuliyaviT, iqidan – gemze. me mZimed avadmyofi Svili da 9 Tvis SviliSvili unda gameyvana omis cecxlwakidebuli mSobliuri miwidan. lamis TojinebiviT migvaporwialebdnen gembanze mdgari janmagari qarTveli jariskacebi karWapidan gemze. dabombvaSi, RelvaSi, tirilsa da wiokSi viRac tansruli, Suaxnis qalis gayinuli Tvalebi maxsovs, romelsac mSveleli jariskacis xels xeli aucda da gemsa da karWaps Soris sicarielem, sibnelem da talRebma STanTqes. aravis gaugonia misi xma im vai-viSSi. . . RmerTo, Zliero! aravis ucdia misi gadarCena, radgan es SeuZlebeli iyo. gemi da karWapi RelvaSi silasa da qaribdasaviT askdebodnen erTmaneTs. mosaswrebi iyo morig dabombvamde bavSvebis, moxucebis, avadmyofebis, qalebis samSvidobos gayvana. . . dResac vekiTxebi Tavs: vin iyo is qali, romelic omis `RmerTma~ yvelas Tvalwin msxverplad Seswira Savbnel stiqias? visi deda iyo, visi Svili, visi meuRle? aris kiTxvebi, romlebzedac pasuxi aris, magram Cveni gza am pasuxebis traeqtorias verasodes gadakveTs. mesame mogoneba: axalgazrdebi varT me da Cemi momavali meuRle. vici, is usazRvrod Seyvarebulia, magram masze aTi wliT umcross verafers meubneba. man aiRo Cemi xeli da pijaksa da vardisfer perangs Soris gulze usityvod daido. . . gana Tvalebi midgas Tvalwin. . . an Cqami. . . an sakuTari Tavi? mxolod im nacrisferi pijakis gulaxlo monakveTi, vardisferi perangi da saocari guliscema maxsovs – mesmis. arc arasodes damaviwydeba. es yvelaferi Zalian intimuria, or arsebas Soris dasarCeni da. . . RvTivkurTxeuli. ra maiZulebs vTqva? minda, namdvili siyvarulis fasi icodeT. araferia, am samyaroSi amaze amaRlebuli da amaRelvebeli ufalTan Sexvedris garda. me ase mgonia. meoTxe mogoneba: isev Tvalebi. oRond, amjerad bednieri. dae, maradis bedniereba idges im TvalebSi. dilabnelze gaRviZebulma Cvili Svilis sawols davxede: pataras gaRviZeboda, magram xmas ar iRebda da TeTr Wers Sescqeroda odnav SeSinebul-gaocebuli. mSobliuri saxis danaxvisTanave saocreba aisaxa mis kriala TvalebSi – usazRvro sixarulis, siyvarulis, imedis (amiyvaneo) naperwklebi. es iyo samyarostola bedniereba CemTvis da misTvis. da me madlieri var uflis, im wamebisTvis da yvelafrisTvis (kargis da cudis), ramac am bednierebis madlis dafaseba SemaZlebina. . .
– afxazeTi yvela Cvenganis tkivilia, Tqveni – gansakuTrebiT. yvelaferi Tqvens Tvalwin moxda, axalma Taobam unda icodes, ra gansacdeli gaiares afxazeTidan ltolvilebma. . .
– me Cemi Sexedulebebi maqvs! vinme rom mkiTxavdes, Tavad sikvdilis damCrdilavi tkivilia: Seuracxyofa, damcireba, istoriuli Tu sxva usamarTloba. . . gana, cotaa magaliTebi, roca adamianebi Selaxuli Rirsebis, autaneli usamarTlobis gamo Tavs iklavdnen? afxazeTis qarTvelma mosaxleobam saSineleba gadaitana. gadaitana ki ara. . . sikvdilis mijnis iqiT gavida da. . . iZulebiT `cocxali~ darCa. me minaxavs mama, romelic velurTa mier Seuracxyofili 14 wlis qaliSvilis nawameb sxeulTan bRaoda da miwas muWebiT glejda, minaxavs qalebi, romelTac Svili, qmari, deda Tvalwin dauxvrites da damarxvac ar daacales. . . uaresic minaxavs. oRond, ar gvinda gulisdamfleTi istoriebis aq motana. me minda, kacobriobam, axalgazrdobam engurs gaRma Tu gamoRma icodes: ase xdeba, roca adamiani (jerac homo sapiensi – ase gamodis), garemoebaTa (waqezeba, wlobiT politteqnologiuri damuSaveba, gonebis aTasgvari xerxiT mowamvla da a. S.) gamo iseve Seuracxadi xdeba, rogorc qimiuri narkotikiT Wkuasgadamcdari avadmyofi, sakuTar dedas, da-Zmas rom axrCobs da amiT warmosaxviTi boRmiT savse guls ioxebs. . . magram gamofxizleba, romelic adre Tu gvian mainc dadgeba – aTgzis sikvdilze ufro mwarea! Sedegi? sulieri da fizikuri partaxi. me minaxavs sasowarkveTili adamianebi, ugzoukvloni, dabneulni, ganwirulni, rogorc kosmosis qaossayolili, damwvari meteorisgan darCenili pawawa namwvni. . . afxazeTidan iZulebiT gadaadgilebulma mosaxleobam ganicada yvela simware, rac ki arsebobs: zemoT CamoTvlilTan erTad, miusafroba, uimedoba, sakuTari mes da axloblebis dakargva, rwmenis Seryeva adamianuri Rirebulebebis mimarT. . . ra ena CamoTvlis yvelafers? viciT es da ar unda dagvaviwydes – arc gaRma, arc gamoRma. . . oRond amas Tan saRi analizic unda mohyvebodes: ra moxda? ratom moxda? vin moigo? saerTod, Sedegad ra miviReT? diax, ra aRar minaxavs. netav, ar menaxa. amitomac gavurbi-xolme am Temaze saubars. yvela ver gamigebs. usazomod Znelia laparaki. . .
– Tqvens didebul ojaxzec mogviTxreT.
– Sevecdebi mokled, Torem Zalian Sors mivdivarT! Cemi ojaxi yovelTvis cxovrobda da sunTqavda qarTuli erovnuli interesebiT, meuRle zaur kvaracxelia, ekonomikis mecnierebaTa doqtori, profesori, gaxldaT soxumSi ssm institutis kaTedris gamge, Semdgom dekani, qarTuli erovnuli moZraobis aqtiuri monawile, prezident gamsaxurdiasTan daaxloebuli piri da afxazeTSi erovnuli moZraobis erT-erTi lideri. afxazeTSi xelovnurad gaCaRebuli omis qarcecxlian dReebSi, mTeli Cemi ojaxi gamouvali mdgomareobis gamo, moxvda moskovSi, radgan meuRlem miiRo infarqtis urTulesi forma da dasWirda saswrafo operacia gulze. maSin saqarTveloSi gulis operaciebi ar keTdeboda. misi, ase Tu ise, gamojanmrTelebis Semdeg vexmarebodiT dafantul qarTvelobas, ormagad devnil zviad gamsaxurdias momxreebs (da ara marto), daviwyeT (meuRlesTan erTad) ruseTSi saqarTvelos saelCos xelSewyobiT, msoflioSi gafantul qarTul diasporebTan kontaqtebis moZieba, saxelmwifosTan dakavSireba da SesaZleblobisdagvarad maTi samSoblosTan daaxloeba. am mimarTulebiT Seiqmna masStaburi saxelmwifo programa (inaxeba saqarTvelos prezidentis administraciaSi), saerTaSoriso diasporuli organizacia `georgia~. moskovSi dafuZnda literaturul-saganmanaTleblo almanaxi `emigranti – XXI~, romlis erT-erTi damfuZnebeli da mTavari redaqtoric Tqveni mona-morCili gaxldaT. almanaxis miznebi da samoqmedo programa, zemoTqmulidan gamomdinare, naTelia da aRar ganvmeordebi. . . 2003 wlidan, xelisuflebis mowveviT, Cems meuRles Cabarda saqarTvelos prezidentis administraciaSi diasporebTan urTierTobis ganyofileba. am mxriv ganxorcielda uamravi sasikeTo proeqti, Seiqmna Sesabamisi saministroc. dRes zaur kvaracxelia cocxali aRar aris, magram is mTeli Tavisi cxovreba emsaxureboda ufals da saqarTvelos. myavs qal-vaJi. vaJi, zurabi maTematikosia da eweva samecniero-meTodologiur, pedagogiur moRvaweobas, qaliSvili, xatia delsali, cxovrobs moskovSi, muSaobs turizmis seqtorSi da am saqmis saukeTeso specialistia.
– leqsi sulis amoZaxilia, sulis sarke? Aasea? poezia gvaRviZebs xom? Tqveni leqsebi araerT gamocemaSi ibeWdeba, Targmnilia inglisurad, gardaqmnilia simRerebad. . . araerT literaturul RonisZiebaze SeuqiaT maTi xatovneba. . . Tavad ras fiqrobT, SeZeliT maTSi Tqveni sulieri samyaros realizacia?
– Tu gulwrfelia da naRdi – diax, leqsi sulis amoZaxilia! magram sulis zusti sarkea Tu ara, es poetis SemoqmedebiT patiosnebazea damokidebuli. namdvili (arayalbi) avtori da kargi mkiTxveli erTmaneTs yovelTvis ugeben. amitomaa SedarebiT cota namdvili avtoric da namdvili mkiTxvelic. gvaRviZebs Tu ara poezia? ai, aq me Cemeburad vityvi: leqsi am mxriv wnevis damaregulirebel wamals hgavs – aregulirebs! msmenels mieZina? afxizlebs. metismet SfoTSia, SiSSia, simSvides ver poulobs? amSvidebs da awynarebs, anugeSebs, suli ki, Cemi aRqmiT, is substanciaa, romelic miuwvdomels, kosmoss Seicnobs – cdilobs, yovel SemTxvevaSi, magram es uwyveti, usasrulo procesia. davelodebi CemTvis gankuTvnili Secnobis SesaZleblobis amowurvas – maSin mecodineba, Tqma Tu movaswari, ramdenad Cavwvdi da Sevicani sakuTari sulieri samyaro da ramdeni procentiT SevZeli misi realizacia. nu gagikvirdebaT da, xSirad adamianebs sakuTari Tavis Secnoba-amocnoba ufro uWirT, vidre sxvebis.
– `yvelas cremli msurs kedlad movisxa~. . . Tqveni leqsidan amonaridi es striqoni eqos gamoscems. . . albaT, mxolod Cvens tanjul qveyanaSi daiwereboda `Cemi suramis cixe~. . .
– `Cemi suramis cixe~ albaT ufro ganStoebaa Cemi dilis fsalmunisa – `Tu saWiroa, gvedri, ufalo!~ metismetad Znelia, uyuro irgvliv amden gaWirvebas, cremls, sikvdils, adamianTa uiRblobas, usamarTlobas. . . me, rogorc marTlmadidebel qristians, mwams sulis ukvdavebis (amas TiTqmis yvela religia aRiarebs, metafizika da Tanamedrove mecniereba ki aTasgvarad xsnis). Cven yvelani am azrs vebRauWebiT. da vin icis, ramdenjer gulwrfelad mifiqria: RmerTo, Tu saWiroa, Tu sakmarisi iqneba, dae, me viyo is msxverpli, romelic yvelas nacvlad gaswiravs maradiul ukvdavebas, yvelas bednierebis sanacvlod. Zalian paTetikurad, maRalfardovnad JRers, magram me axlac mzad var sulis ukvdavebaze uari vTqva da srul daviwyebas mivece Tu: arcerT dedas Svili ar moukvdeba, arcerTi Seyvarebuli ar darCeba daCagruli da gulmkvdari, arcerTi bavSvi ar daobldeba, ar iSimSilebs. . . aravin arvis moklavs da ar daamcirebs. . . anu aRar iqneba boroteba da ubedureba dedamiwaze. . . ras ityviT, ar Rirs erTi adamiani Caekiros zurabiviT (`suramis cixis~ personaJi) daviwyebis cremlebis kedels? me miRirs – yvelas bednierebis sanacvlod uari vTqva umTavresze. ai, amas niSnavs `yvelas dardi msurs kedlad movisxa!~. . . yvelas wuxili da cremli guls isedac `suramis cixis~ kedlebiviT miboWavs da sadacaa yelamdec mova. . . ramdenad mtkivneulia es CemTvis, viciT mxolod me da Cemma ufalma.
– `me, inana, uruqi da tesla~ – am leqsis Sinaarsic da ideac sainteresoa. . . gancda, rasac leqsi iwvevs Zlieria. ram STagagonaT – muzis wyalobaa Tu. . .
– nikola tesla – `SeSlili serbi~ vin ar icis? misi ucnauri ideebi da mudmivi konfliqtebi edisonTan, eleqtroenergiis usadenod gadacemaze muSaoba da azrebis gadacemaze fiqri, paraleluri samyaroebis arsebobis varaudi da Tvalis cimcimebis gazomvac ki. . . cota ram, rogorc umravlesobam, mec vicodi, magram Tqven mier naxsenebi leqsi Sva CemTvis, megobrisgan, milda Caganavasgan teslas Sesaxeb vrceli naSromis gamogzavnam, romelSic bevri axali, aRmafrTovanebeli gavige teslas Sesaxeb. . . aqedan Sori aRar darCa paraleluri samyaroebis arsebobis hipoTezamde, romlis mixedviT, sadRac, romeliRac usasrulo ganmeorebaSi yoveli Cven mier Tu sxvis mier ganvlili wami arsebobs, iseve rogorc gardasuli droni da epoqebi. . . gavyevi. . . gavyevi teslas ideebs da `Cavedi~ uramde. . . ai, sababi da sarCuli am leqsisa. azri, idea didebulia da amaze seriozulad muSaoben mecnierebi: `sruliad moulodnelad Cven gavaanalizeT, rom samyaro simfoniaa, fizikis kanonebi ki – supersimebis harmonia. . .~ – amerikeli fizikosi miCio kaku. miCiosTvis fizikurad Segnebulad, CemTvis ki sulierad. . . asea.
– mravali keTilmosurne gyavT, axloblebi, megobrebi. . . ra aris yvelaze arsebiTi, rac am urTierTobebma TqvenSi gaaRviZa, riT gagamdidraT?
– pasuxi SekiTxvaSivea: keTilmosurneobiT da yvelas mimarT – siyvaruliT! amaze saamo da samyarosTan, simSvidesTan gamaerTianebeli grZnoba ar arsebobs. esaa mdgomareoba, roca guli diddeba. . . ara gasaxeTqad da ritmidan amosavardnad, aramed, yvelas sulSi Casatevad da yvelasTan harmoniulad Sesabaaseblad.
– ena da mwerali, ena da sazogadoeba. . .rogor metyvelebs dRes Cveni axalgazrdoba, saiT mivyavarT enisadmi aseT damokidebulebas?
– ena cocxali, maSasadame, ganviTarebadi organizmia. isic icvleba drois mixedviT, magram es Zalian mniSvnelovani da sapasuxismgeblo procesia. mwerlis roli aq ganuzomlad didia! enis maqsimalurad gafrTxilebasTan erTad, mas enis sworad (gemovnebianad da marTebulad) formirebaze zrunva evaleba. ras vgulisxmob? enaSi gvinda, ar gvinda, mainc iWreba neologizmebi. mweralma es procesi garkveulwilad, CarCoSi unda moaqcios dedaenis sasargeblod. me didi momxre var sinergiisa – megrulSi, svanurSi, lazurSi (mainc gansxvavdeba megrulisgan) gvaqvs ulamazesi da ufro daxvewili sityvebi, vidre deda-qarTulSi maTi Sesatyvisebi. ratom ar unda SemovitanoT isini Cvens yoveldRiurobaSi da gavamdidroT Cveni ena `laiTis~, `Sikis~, `habis~, `selebriTis~ da maTi msgavsi sruliad ucxo sityvebis nacvlad? nu miwyens axalgazrdoba, magram xels sxvisi sufrisken Rataki da damSeuli iSvers. Cven ra gvWirs saamiso?! uZvelesi da umdidresi ena gvaqvs! amasTan, vaRiareb: es bavSvuri gataceba ucxouriT – xan rusuli `ola wowaTi~ da xan inglisuri `feSeniT~ did provincializmad mimaCnia. . . aqve minda fanat `gramatikosebs~ (Tqveni nebarTviT, am sityvas vixmar) vuTxra: rogorc akvanSi zedmetad artaxmoWeril yrmas umaxinjdeba aRnagoba, rogorc xelovnurad da mkacrad zrdaSenelebuli mcenarisgan zrdian totebdaRrekil `bansais~, aseve zedmetad SezRuduli enisgan miviRebT `ena-bansais~. . . udReurs axali sinamdvilisTvis. . . aq zomierebis dacva yvelaze miRebuli da gamarTlebuli mgonia: enaTmecnierebs, mwerlebs, sazogadoebas evaleba rogorc enis siwmindis dacva, aseve, maRali gemovnebis gamoCena, mis ganviTarebaze da gamdidrebaze zrunva. . . rac ar viTardeba – is kvdeba! ase rom ar iyos, didi ilias epoqaSi curtavelis epoqis eniT isaubrebdnen da Cven – me-19 saukunis qarTuliT vilaparakebdiT. . . axalgazrdebi! axalgazrdebi TavianT asakobriv saxads ixdian enis TvalsazrisiTac. Cemi azriT, esaa gansxvavebulobisaken, saTqmelis naxevrad gasaidumloebulobisaken, mozrdilTagan am xerxiTac gancalkevebisaken swrafvis umwifari kompleqsi, romelic swori marTvis da zomieri daTmobis, gemovnebiani literaturiT maTi uzrunvelyofis fonze `saymawvilo gamonayarTan~ erTad gaivlis. . .
– rTul droSi mogviwia cxovreba, cifruli epoqa, xelovnuri inteleqti, teqnologiuri novaciebi gadawyobas iTxovs, am fonze rogor xedavT literaturis momavals?
– oo, yvelaze didi gamogoneba (epoqis ganviTarebis donis gaTvaliswinebiT) da teqnologiuri novacia, mgonia, borblis gamogoneba iyo! an, warmogidgeniaT xalxis gaoceba, rodesac me-18 saukuneSi (bencamde didi xniT adre) parizis quCebSi pirvelma samborblianma avtomobilma gaiara? an gaxsendebaT pirveli safreni aparatebi da biplanebi? rogori aJiotaJiT dasdevda maT xalxi? namdvili saxalxo seiri iyo! adamians aqvs unari, pirveli gaocebis Semdeg, alRo auRos yvelafers, Seeguos da Seewyos siaxleebs, daumegobrdes xelovnur inteleqtsac. ra gasakviria?! rogorc cnobilia, mas Tavisi gonebrivi ganviTarebis dRevandel etapze SesaZleblobebis 97 procenti TadarigSi aqvs `gadanaxuli~. yvelaze martiv cifrul teqnologiebs dRevandeli patarebi maTTan erTad dabadebulebiviT arian Seguebuli da Tqven warmoidgineT, mezoblis beberi fisoc ki cdilobs TaTis cacuniT aifonSi Tavisi sayvareli kadri gamoaCinos (sulac ar vxumrob). rac Seexeba am fonze mTavars – literaturas! yvela CamoTvlil, odindel teqnologiur gamogonebaTa paralelurad, uflis nebiT, arsebobda nakadulis damamSvidebeli Cxriali, mzis sxivi, romelic TavisTavad aaqtiurebs serotonins – sixarulis, imedis hormons, arsebobdnen myinvarwverebi – mokrZalebis da aRfrTovanebis ukvdavi simboloni, arsebobdnen nairferi yvavilebi – sixarulis da sasoebis momtanni! literatura (WeSmariti) adamianis sulis, umaRlesi azris yvavilebia – yovelTvis iyvavilebs!
– Tviseba, romelic yvelaze faseulia adamianSi. . .
– patiosneba da samarTlianoba!
– ra gindaT gasZaxoT samyaros. . .
– gamoiRviZeeT! mSvidoba Tqvenda!
– sworedac, gemovnebaze davoben. . . mdare literaturam, Souebma, serialebma daadabla gemovneba. . . gamosavali?
– zogjer mgonia, garkveuli samsaxurebi Segnebulad ewevian sazogadoebis Semecnebis, gemovnebis, saRi interesebis damaxinjebas! da Tu es ase ar aris, maSin saxelmwifom (saxelmwifoSi vgulisxmob struqturas, romelic xsenebul sferos kurirebs) alternatiuli arCevani unda SesTavazos mkiTxvels, mayurebels. Seisyidos da mimzidvel garemoSi moawyos maRali gemovnebis, axali Tu klasikuri filmebis Cveneba, wignebis ganxilva, perspeqtivebze msjeloba. . . normalur sazogadoebas, feisbuqSi `litCanaxis~ dagemovnebas, wesiT, literaturaze, xelovnebaze, musikaze kamerul, salonur garemoSi saubrebi, Sexvedrebi unda erCivnos. merwmuneT, amis precedentebi Seqmnilia da kargadac muSaobs. msmenelis, mkiTxvelis nawili arCevans am ukanasknelis sasargeblod gaakeTebs, xolo sakmaod mniSvnelovani nawili mas mibaZavs. xedavT, Cveni qarTveluri kudabzikoba SesaZloa, zogjer sasargebloc ki gamodges. axalgazrdobas Tavisi bunebrivi fizikuri aqtivobis Sesabamisad unda hqondes bunebaSi gasvlis, sakuTari qveynis, istoriis Seswavlis survili. es vali maT pedagogebs awevT kiserze. Tu isinic Sin `droulad~ gaqcevas da Tavadac gaurkveveli serialebis yurebas ar irCeven, Cvenze ukeT ician (unda icodnen) ra suliskveTeba aRzardon, ra gaakeTon studenti axalgazrdobis interesebis warsamarTavad. calke Temaa feissivrcis ganurCevloba. marTalia, aq yvela Tavisi Tavis realizebas cdilobs (aRar vTqvi, Tavis gulis Wias axarebs-meTqi), magram raRac barieri Rirebuls, Wkvianurs, srul sisulelesa da ugemovnebas Soris unda arsebobdes. ar minda vaxseno cenzura, magram aseTi barieris arseboba gemovnebiani da pasuxismgebliani moderatorebis saxiT, sruliad zRvarsgasul avtorebs (vizas rom ver miiReben), imas mainc aiZulebT, ifiqron: raRac kargad ver damiweria da vecdebi gavaumjobesoo. mowolili zRva masalis xarisxi odnav mainc xom gaumjobesdeba?! esec saqmea!
– kacobriobas ori didi wigni aqvs: biblia da buneba. rogor fiqrobT, viswavleT maTi kiTxva?
– ori didi wigni! anu sulieri da materialuri! Teologebi gvetyvian, rom meore pirvelisgan gamomdinareobs, materialistebi ki piriqiT – meores CaTvlian pirvelis wyarod! es imas niSnavs, rom, rac viswavleT, jerjerobiT, kiTxva ki ara, anbanis Seugneblad amomarcvlaa. erTica da meorec – bibliac da bunebac axal-axal siurprizebs da aRmoCenebs gvTavazobs, aRmoCenebs, romelTa axsna arc fizikur kanonebs emorCileba da arc religiurs. Tavad ver davikvexni, rom maTi kiTxva viswavle! Cven – kacobrioba, Cemi subieqturi azriT, im skolamdel bavSvebs vgavarT, ufrosi dedmamiSvilis wigni rom uWiravT xelSi da wakiTxvis nacvlad lamaz-lamaz naxatebs aTvaliereben. . . anu igeben imdens, rasac maTi goneba swvdeba… am ori, didi wignis Segnebulad wakiTxva da bolomde gaSifvra kacobriobis ganviTarebis sul sxva etapze – momavali saukuneebis miRma mesaxeba!
– dabolos, am interviuTi aWaras, baTums esaubrebiT, ras gvetyviT aqaurebs?
– aWara, baTumi saqarTvelos samxreT-dasavleTi karibWe da citadelia! qarTvelobis, qarTuli kulturis da saxelmwifoebriobis mkerdiT damcveli da Semnaxveli. aTasgzis kurTxeulia es mxare: qristes me-12 mociquli mataTa xom, saeklesio CanawerTa mixedviT, gonioSia dakrZaluli da andria pirvelwodebulic aWaris pirvelmaziarebeli gaxldaT! baTumi saqarTvelos TeTri margalitia da TiToeuli Cvenganisgan maradsanatreli Tavisi tkbilmoubari, keTilmosurne, alali adamianebiT da laJvardisferi zRviT! RmerTma daglocoT, Cemo aWarlebo, Tqveni saukunovani warsuliT – eklesiebiT da meCeTebiT, mdidari bunebiT da TaRovani xidebiT, Tqveni ganumeorebeli koloritiT da kilokaviT! urTierTgamtanobiTa da samSoblos siyvaruliT! me Tqven meamayebiT! me Tqven miyvarxarT! mravalJamier!
