შუახევიდან – უროლოგიის ეროვნულ ცენტრში
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irakli surmaniZe Suaxevelia. igi amJamad TbilisSi, lavrenti managaZis saxelobis urologiis erovnul centrSi eqim-urologad muSaobs. igi Cveni stumaria.
– batono irakli, raa mTavari, warmatebuli eqimi rom iyo?
– pirvel rigSi, sakuTari Tavisadmi momTxovneloba, profesiis siyvaruli, winamorbedTa gamocdilebis gaziareba da gamdidreba, Tanamedrove teqnologiebis aTviseba, pacientebTan swori komunikacia.
– eqimebis ojaxSi gaizardeT. maTi roli profesiis arCevanSi?
– mSoblebma Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino instituti daamTavres. mama, profesiiT stomatologi iyo, Semdeg nevropaTologad da ojaxis eqimad gadamzadda. axlac SuaxevelTa janmrTelobis samsaxurSia. deda provizoria. Cveni mSobliuri sofeli darCiZeebia, sadac eqimis profesia yvelaze metad fasobs. marto mSoblebis survili ver ikmarebda, Cemi arCevanic rom ar yofiliyo eqimoba. Suaxevis saSualo skolis damTavrebis Semdeg, baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis samkurnalo fakultetze Caviricxe.
– urologiis erovnul centrSi aWaridan erTeulebi muSaobT. . .
– urologiis erovnuli centri qveynis masStabiT yvelaze popularuli dargobrivi klinikaa. universitetis dasrulebis Semdeg, rezidentura aq gaviare. centrSi muSaoba lavrenti managaZem damawyebina, aseve, didi amagi damdo profesorma ambrosi pertiam, is iyo Cemi pirveli gzamkvlevi.
– lavrenti (laur) managaZis saxeli qveyanasa da mis farglebs gareT kargadaa cnobili. igi parlamentari iyo, saTaveSi edga Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino universitets, sicocxlis bolo wlebSi urologiis centris generaluri direqtori gaxldaT. masTan ra urTierTobebi gakavSirebdaT?
– didi pirovnebebi didbunovani adamianebi arian. jer kidev axalbeda, gamoucdeli eqimi mivedi centrSi. Cveni pirveli Sexvedra mis samuSao kabinetSi Sedga. or saaTs mesaubra. cxovrebiseul kiTxvebSi ostaturad urevda profesiul kiTxvebs. surda gaego, ramdenad viyavi TeoriaSi momzadebuli. mowonebis niSnad Tavs miqnevda. im dRis darigebebi axlac megzurad momyveba. sakuTar avtoritets rom vufrTxildebi, es cxadia, magram aranakleb veferebi im kacis saxels. klinikaSi ukve TerTmeti welia vsaqmianob.
– pirveli damoukidebeli operacia rodis gaakeTeT?
– es iyo 2011 wels. pacienti aWaridan iyo. igi axlac cocxalia da Cems rCevebs iTvaliswinebs. aqve getyviT, rom TiTqmis yoveli mesame pacienti an aWaridanaa, an kidev dediseuli kuTxidan – sagarejodan.
– sawyis etapze visi asistenti iyaviT?
– saubarSi ukve vaxsene ambrosi pertia, es marTlac didi pirovneba, ufalma Semaxvedra. es didi mecnieri axla urologiis erovnuli centris klinikuri direqtoria. misi asistenti viyavi. axlac ki mis frTebs qveS var.
– adamiani, romlis rCevebs dResac iTvaliswinebT?
– pirovnulad vinmes dasaxeleba miWirs. babua – nuri surmaniZe darCiZeebSi cnobili pirovneba iyo. mas cxovrebis didi gza hqonda gamovlili, SviliSvilebs gvmoZRvravda. misi rCevebi cxovrebiseuli iyo. ojaxSi mas, skolaSi – pedagogebs, umaRlesSi – profesor-maswavleblebs veyrdnobodi. axla cnobili urologebis rCevebs mivyvebi da wagebuli ar vrCebi.
– pirvel siyvarulSi gagimarTlaT?
– ra Tqma unda. bednierebaa, roca pirvel siyvaruls xels Txov da gagimarTlebs. meuRle nona ivaniSvili specialobiT ekonomistia, misi adgilis deda istoriuli qarTlia. sidedri imerelia. kaxeTi, qarTli, imereTi da aWara – aseTia saaxloblo garemocva.
– meuRlis adgili Tqvens warmatebebSi?
– sami Svilis mSoblebi varT. Cemi saqmianoba adamianis sicocxlesTan, mis janmrTelobasTanaa kavSirSi. aseT dros mTavaria mSvidi garemo, ojaxuri idilia, rac meuRlis garjiT, ar maklia. Cemi yvela warmatebis `arqiteqtori~ nonaa. mere ra, rom sxva specialobisaa, ojaxSi urTierTobebia upirvelesi da ara is, vin ra specialobisaa. Cven qarTul saqmes vakeTebT, qarTul ojaxs vmarTavT, esaa amosavali wertili. profesiuli dayofa ojaxSi ver warmomidgenia.
– `sapatio Suaxeveli~, samTavrobo jildoebis mflobeli, mosiyvarule deda, erTguli meojaxe, – ase icnobs sazogadoeba dedaTqvens. mis amags rogor afasebT?
– ojaxSi 2 Zma vizrdebodiT. cxovrebis gameoreba, ukan mobruneba rom SeiZlebodes, bavSvobaSi dabrunebas, dedis kalTas amofarebas visurvebdi. dedam momca yvelaferi, rac CemSi kargia. TbilisSi samuSaod da sacxovreblad rom wamovedi, idarda, Cemi daSoreba ar undoda. am nabijiT aWaras davSordi, samagierod, dedis mSobliur sagarejos davuaxlovdi.
– Tavad rogori mSobeli xarT?
– gulaxdilad getyviT, iseTi mainc ver var, rogoric mSoblebi iyvnen Cem mimarT.
– mSobliuri kuTxisTvis Tu icliT?
– SuaxevSi bavSvoba da didi samegobro davtove. ra damaviwyebs ramin cinariZis `Jiguls~. dReSi minimum erTi saaTi Suaxevis ambebisa da megobrebis mokiTxviT var dakavebuli. weliwadis nebismier dros aqeT momiwevs guli. menatreba mdinare aWariswyalSi banaoba, mTa Ciruxze Semoparuli bindi, pirveli Tovli, TviTnakeTi cigebiT sriali, `Sataloebi~ da rac mTavaria, adamianebi, romlebTanac bavSvobisa da Wabukobis wlebi maqvs gatarebuli. daZabuli muSaobis miuxedavad, Suaxevisa da SuaxevlebisTvis yovelTvis vicli.
– mTa CiruxSi Tu maspinZlobT stumrebs?
– metwilad, profesor-maswavleblebsa da kolega eqimebs. aWara-SavSeTis qedze arsebuli es teritoria mSvenieri da mimzidvelia. Aaq, babuaseul qoxSi stumroba yvelaze waruSlel STabeWdilebas tovebs. am kurorts didi momavali aqvs. saTayvanebeli adamianebis mopatiJebas momavalSic vapireb.
– `urologiis kvireulis~ dawesebaze ra mosazreba gaqvT?
– kargi wamowyebaa da mas Cvenma Taobam unda upatronos. urologia saqarTveloSi saTanado simaRlezea da misi axali SenaZenebiT gamdidreba, axla moqmedi urologebis valia.
– `saqarTvelos urologTa asociaciis~ wevri xarT. . .
– rogorc asociaciis wevrs, meti momeTxoveba, rasac saqmiT, profesiis erTgulebiT vupasuxeb. qveyanas lavrenti managaZis sadari urologi hyavda, Cven xom misi gzis mimdevrebi varT, es saqmiT unda davamtkicoT.
– urologiis erovnuli centris eqimebi regionebSi gasvliT saqvelmoqmedo aqciebs awyobT. aseT aqcias mSobliur kuTxeSi Tu apirebT?
– samegreloSi ukve viyaviT da pacientebi kmayofilni darCnen, sxva regionebSi da mSobliur aWaraSic igive ganmeordeba.
– cxovrebis jansaR wess Tu icavT?
– sxvas keTil rCevas rom aZlev, cxovrebis wesiT, Senc samagaliTo unda iyo. sportis sxvadasxva saxeobebs mivsdev, uqme dReebSi kolegebTan da megobrebTan erTadac qalaqidan gavdivar – miyvars Tevzaoba, nadiroba.
– leqsi Tu dagiweriaT?
– ki, maSin, roca nonas siyvaruls vumxeldi. redaqciebSi ar mimitania (icinis). xvisi poeziis motrfiale var. miyvars galaktioni da zurab gorgilaZe. bolo dros qarTul poeziaSi axali saxelebi Semogvemata da es sasixaruloa. sxvaTa Soris, nonasac uyvars poezia da am mimarTebiTac erTmaneTs vavsebT. momwons roin abeseliZis da genri doliZis Semoqmedeba. miyvars istoriuli romanebic, saTvalavi areuli maqvs imdeni wavikiTxe. mZime operaciis Semdeg wignis kiTxva wesad meqca…
– wignis kiTxva vin SegayvaraT?
– iSviaTia iseTi pedagogi, rogoric ciuri zoiZe iyo. man qarTuli literatura Segvayvara. dedis rolic didia.
– saRvTo da saero dResaswaulebs Tu eswrebiT?
– meamayeba, rom im kuTxis Svili var, sadac qristianobis akvani dairwo. saRvTo dResaswaulebze eklesiebSi mivdivar. wels tradiciul saxalxo dResaswaul `Suaxevobaze~ Camoval.
– mSobliur kuTxeSi rom marTlmadidebloba brundeba, amaze ras ityviT?
– amas yvelgan xmamaRla da amayad vacxadeb: aWara Cveni qristianobis balavaria da zogierTebs araferi SeeSaloT.
