ტარიელ ებრალიძე: ქვეყნის უკეთესი ხვალინდელი დღე მომავალი თაობის ხელშია
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Cvens respondents aWaraSi mcxovrebi TiTqmis yvela Taobis adamiani icnobs. martivi araa, gacnobisTanave ucnobs Tavi daamaxsovro – es albaT mxolod rCeulTa xvedria
tariel ebraliZe – profesori, istoriis mecnierebaTa doqtori, arqeologi da ubralod kargi megobari, xelmZRvaneli, mama, meuRlea rubrika `adamiani da profesiis~ stumari. igi Tavis cxovrebasa da miRwevebze gvesaubreba.
– batono tariel, pirvel rigSi, madloba, rom dro gamonaxeT CvenTan sasaubrod. Cvens erTgul mkiTxvels Tqvens ganvlil cxovrebaze mouyeviT.
– davibade maRalmTiani aWaris erT-erT ulamazes – mareTis xeobaSi, kerZod, sofel iakobaurSi. 1992 wels davamTavre Subnis saSualo skola. imave wels Caviricxe baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetSi, istoriis fakultetze, romelic warCinebiT davamTavre 1997 wels. amis Semdeg swavla gavagrZele aspiranturaSi arqeologiis specialobiT. 2002 wels davicavi sadoqtoro disertacia. 1995 wlidan vmonawileob arqeologiur eqspediciebSi (gonio-afsarosis, qobuleT-fiWvnaris, zendidis da ase Semdeg). gaxldiT sofel didaWaraSi, jabniZeebSi, furtiosa da darCiZeebSi arqeologiuri eqspediciis xelmZRvaneli. monawileoba maqvs miRebuli qarTul-britanuli da qarTul-germanuli saerTaSoriso arqeologiuri eqspediciebis muSaobaSi. 1995-2010 wlebSi viyavi gonio-afsarosis arqeologiur-arqiteqturul muzeum-nakrZalisa da baTumis arqeologiuri muzeumis mecnieri TanamSromeli, 2003 wlidan baTumis saxelmwifo universitetis leqtor-maswavlebeli, 2011-2013 wlebSi – socialur mecnierebaTa, biznesisa da samarTalmcodneobis fakultetis dekanis moadgile, 2009 wlidan dRemde – xiWauris wm. abuserisZe tbelis saxelobis saswavlo universitetis profesori. 2013 wlis agvistoSi daviniSne Suaxevis municipalitetis gamgeblis movaleobis Semsruleblad. 2014-2017 wlebSi gaxldiT Suaxevis municipalitetis gamgebeli, 2018-2019 wlebSi – a(a)ip `aWaris ganaTlebis fondis~ direqtori. gamoqveynebuli maqvs 50-ze meti statia da erTi monografia.
– Zalian saintereso, nayofieri da mravalferovani cxovreba gqoniaT. amJamad, bsu-is ilia WavWavaZis saxelobis biblioTekis direqtors, uamrav studentTan gaqvT Sexeba. xom ar fiqrobT, rom internetsivrceSi gazrdili Taoba wigns sakmaod CamoSorda?
– pirvel rigSi, minda vTqva, rom bsu Cemi mSobliuri universitetia, romelTanac 30-wliani istoria makavSirebs. rac Seexeba kiTxvas, es sakiTxi sakmaod aqtualuria da SeiZleba iTqvas, rom Tanamedrove axalgazrdobis udidesi nawili Tavisufal dros kompiuterTan atarebs, Tumca, iqidan gamomdinare, rom amJamad bsu-is biblioTekasTan yoveldRiuri urTierToba maqvs, aRniSnuli problema naklebad ikveTeba. biblioTekaSi students SeuZlia isargeblos rogorc wigniT, ise wignis cifruli versiiT. amisaTvis calkea gamoyofili eleqtronuli resursebis ganyofileba Sesabamisi teqnikuri aRWurvilobiT, Tumca calsaxad ver vityodi, rom kompiuteriTa da wignis cifruli versiiT ufro sargebloben. sakmaod didi moTxovnaa wignad fondze, bevrs saxlSi miaqvs saWiro literatura, aseve, arian studentebi, romlebic mTeli dRis ganmavlobaSi iqve, samkiTxvelo darbazSi muSaoben sxvadasxva literaturaze da es faqti namdvilad sasixaruloa. pandemiis periodSic ki, roca SezRudvebis gamo studentebs ar SeeZloT biblioTekaSi mosvla, gvTxovdnen wignebs da vcdilobdiT miwodebas. vityodi, rom aucilebelia teqnikis gamoyeneba, Tuki es Cvens ganviTarebas emsaxureba, Tumca yvelaferi unda iyos zomieri. vfiqrob, ganaTlebis misaRebad wigni Seucvleli iaraRia, romelsac Tavisi xibli da unikaluroba gaaCnia, mas dro ver daamarcxebs. guram doCanaSvilis personaJs Tu davesesxebiT, ra aRar gamogvicdia wignis meSveobiT: `mefed vukurTxebivarT, sikeTisaTvis xis xmliT gvibrZolia, xan dafna dagvidgams Tavze, xan – ekali. giliotinaze avsulvarT, miwisaTvis gvikocnia da misi wmidaTawmida nawilebi tuCebze agvyolia~. . .
– axal TaobasTan Tqveni Sexeba mxolod biblioTekiT ar Semoifargleba, aswavliT xiWauris wminda abuserisZe tbelis saxelobis saswavlo universitetSi. mogviyeviT studentebTan gatarebul erT Cveulebriv dReze.
– Cems saqmianobas universitetSi da studentebTan, davyofdi or periodad – pandemiamde da pandemiis Semdeg periodi. vfiqrob, yvela adamianis cxovrebaSi gaCnda es `gamyofi xazi~, ramac didi cvlilebebi gamoiwvia. pandemiamdel periodze Tu visaubrebT, ra Tqma unda, erTi Cveulebrivi dRe sauniversiteto cxovrebaSi gacilebiT mravalferovani da aqtiuri iyo. studentebs auditoriaSi vxvdebodi, pirispir vatarebdi saleqcio kurss, ukeT vecnobodi TiToeul maTgans, urTierTobebi da azris gacvla-gaziareba ufro bunebrivi da cocxali iyo. garda amisa, tardeboda sxvadasxva saintereso RonisZieba, aqtivoba da araformalur garemoSic gviwevda studentebTan urTierToba. zogadad, xiWauris abuserisZe tbelis saswavlo universiteti qarTul saganmanaTleblo sivrceSi erT-erT mniSvnelovan rols ikavebs. aq Seqmnilia yvela piroba (ufaso swavla, kveba) imisaTvis, rom momzaddes kvalificiuri momavali Taoba. miuxedavad imisa, rom saswavlebeli sakmao manZiliTaa daSorebuli, mas Taviseburi xibli aqvs da iq gatarebuli TiToeuli samuSao dRe sasiamovnoa. samwuxarod, pandemiis periodSi radikalurad Seicvala viTareba, gadavediT onlainreJimze, sadac ZiriTadad `Zoom~-is saSualebiT vxvdebi studentebs. am processac aqvs garkveuli dadebiTi mxareebi, Tumca SedarebiT xelovnuri da naklebad mravalferovani formatia. imedia, male srulad davamarcxebT pandemias da Zvel samuSao garemos davubrundebiT.
– Aaxla rom iyoT arCevanis winaSe, ra profesias SeiswavlidiT?
– albaT, viqnebodi samedicino sferos warmomadgeneli. sxvaTa Soris, istoriis specialobis arCeva mamaCemis survili gaxldaT, xolo dedas surda, eqimi gamovsuliyavi.
– Tqvens mSobliur municipalitetSi, SuaxevSi, gamgebeli iyaviT. ra darCa tariel ebraliZes Tavisi raionisTvis gasakeTebeli an saTqmeli?
– pirvel rigSi, madloba minda gadavuxado saxelisuflebo gunds ndobisTvis. vfiqrob, mSobliuri municipalitetisTvis Cems gundTan erTad bevri sasikeTo proeqti ganvaxorciele (wyalmomarageba, skolamdeli dawesebulebebisa da skolebis mSenebloba, gzebis mowyoba, socialuri programebis ganxorcieleba, mTebis eleqtrofikacia, gazifikaciis dawyeba, axalgazrda Taobis dasaqmebis xelSewyoba da a.S. ), Tumca maRalmTian regionSi problemebs ra dalevs? Zalian msiamovnebs, rom Cven mier dawyebuli, dagegmili proeqtebi warmatebiT grZeldeba. aseve, ra Tqma unda, aris mniSvnelovani siaxleebi, rac misasalmebelia da mjera, rom yovelive es xels Seuwyobs mosaxleobis socialur-ekonomikuri fonis kidev ufro gaumjobesebas.
– viciT, rom arqeologiur gaTxrebze xSirad gadixarT, yvelaze didi aRmoCena ra SegxvedriaT?
– CemTvis, rogorc arqeologisTvis, nebismieri artefaqtis aRmoCena Zalze mniSvnelovania. maTi saSualebiT vaxdenT Cveni uZvelesi istoriis restavracias. bolo wlebSi mniSvnelovani iyo Suaxevis municipalitetis sofel darCiZeebSi arsebuli me-10 saukunis naeklesiaris arqeologiuri Seswavla, sadac aRmoCnda lomisa da xaris (qvis) qandakebebi, rac sakmao iSviaTobas warmoadgens. . .
– Tavisufal dros sad atarebT?
– praqtikulad, Cemi profesiidan gamomdinare, Tavisufali dro TiTqmis ar maqvs, Tumca rogorc ki vpoulob, vcdilob, dro megobrebs davuTmo da Cems mSobliur Ciruxis mTas vestumro, sadac yovelTvis melis deda.
– batono tariel, ojaxze gvesaubreT. . .
– am mxriv sakmaod gamimarTla. myavs meuRle da ori Svili. erTad bevri gaWirveba gamogvivlia, magram ojaxisa da axloblebis gverdSi dgomiT gadavlaxeT yvela barieri. rom ara maTi xelSewyoba, ar meqneboda is warmatebebi, rac dRemde gamaCnia. Rirseuli ojaxi yvelaze didi siwminde da Cveni qveynis mTavari sayrdenia.
– ra aris TqvenTvis baTumi?
– baTumze bevri SemiZlia, visaubro, radgan CemTvis mniSvnelovani navsayudelia, Cemi qveynis karibWea, is qalaqze metia. miyvars misi istoria, quCebi, Senobebi da misi tolerantuli xasiaTi, romelic TiToeul adamians ewyoba. mokled, poeziis mefis – galaktionis sityvebiT rom vTqva: `miyvars baTumi, misi buneba, mis oqroreul laJvardis blondi, misi zRvis mZlavri aguguneba, misi zeniti da horizonti~.
– adamianis yvelaze did Rirsebad ra migaCniaT?
– uflis siyvaruli da sikeTis keTebis unari.
– rogoria tariel ebraliZis gegmebi?
– Cemeuli SemarTebiTa da motivaciiT gavagrZeleb saswavlo-saganmanaTleblo da samecniero saqmianobas. qveynis ukeTesi xvalindeli dRe momavali Taobis xelSia, maTi momzadeba-aRzrda ki Cveni vali.

