,,ახლა ჩემი კავშირი ხარკოვთან პერიოდული სტუმრობით შემოიფარგლება”
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policiis organoebis Tadarigis maRali rangis oficeri, Rirseuli Suaxeveli da baTumeli – ase icnoben ukrainelebi, kerZod, xarkovelebi 80 wlis ioseb qaTamaZes.
– is skola daamTavreT, romelic axlandel Suaxevis municipalitetSi pirveli saSualo skola iyo.
– uCambaSi saSualo skola 1949 wels gaixsna. Cemi pirveli maswavlebeli maro keSelava iyo, direqtori – vano barabaZe. xuTi wlis Semdeg dainiSna direqtorad mevlud TurmaniZe. misi vaJi Tamazi da me Tanaklaselebi viyaviT. erT merxze visxediT, rac megobrobaSi gadaizarda. skolis periodSi da Semdgom wlebSi batoni mevludi ise meqceoda, rogorc sakuTar Svils. is iyo friad ganswavluli pirovneba. Ddidia misi damsaxureba skolis materialuri bazis ganmtkicebaSi. moawyo frenburTisa da kalaTburTis moednebi, ramac mogvca saSualeba, zamTarSic gvevarjiSa. moqmedebda seqciebi magidis CogburTSi, WadrakSi, simZimeebis awevaSi. 1956 wels Catarda raionis pirveloba magidis CogburTSi, romelSic monawileobdnen aw gardacvlili eqimi nodar dumbaZe Suaxevis skolidan, aseve eqimi akaki beriZe oladauris saSualo skolidan. am Sejibrebaze aviRe pirveli adgili da vTvli, rom es iyo Cemi seriozuli gamarjveba.
– riTi daimsaxureT xarkovelTa pativiscema?
– sabWoTa armiaSi msaxurobisas sxvadasxva saqmiT viyaviT dakavebulni ruseTsa da ukrainaSi, rogorc iciT, zamTarSi mdinareebi da patara tbebi iyineba. 1963 welsac gaiyina mdinareebi. gazafxulze, roca daTba, yinulis namsxvrevebma xidi gadaketa, wyali kalapotidan gadmovida, daitbora qalaqebi, soflebi, aprilSi, aRdgomis dRes, gangaSiT gagviyvanes xarkovidan 30 kilometrSi daba dergaCSi. wyliT iyo savse Senoba-nagebobebis pirveli sarTulebi, mosaxleoba Svelas iTxovda. yinuli asafeTqebliT unda dagvemsxvria, romelsac ori-sami kaci amzadebda da me naviT mimqonda yinulgrovamde, erTxelac navi ver mivayene napirs, gadabrunda da qveS moveqeci. kidev kargi, simaRle mqonda, samagierod, curvasTan viyavi mwyralad. daxrCobas meTaurma gadamarCina. davalebebis keTilsindisierad SesrulebisTvis 1964 wlis seqtemberSi, xarkovis saolqo sabWos gadawyvetilebiT, baTumelebi ilia CixlaZe, vano gabaiZe da me dagvajildoes sapatio sigelebiT. erTxelac xarkovSi, moskovis prospeqtze, xarkovis diviziis saxelobis moedanTan, sadac ganTavsebuli iyo sasoflo-sameurneo produqtebis didi sawyobi, misi gafarToebis mizniT miwis samuSaoebisas, eqskavatorma amoagdo 2 cali naRmi, romlebSic ukve midioda qimiuri reaqcia. instruqciiT, aseTi asafeTqebeli nivTiereba adgilze unda ganadgurdes, magram es veravin gabeda. maSin ufrosma, omgamovlilma specialistma gvarad iurCenkom gamoacxada, CemTan erTad imuSaveben serJantebi ilia CixlaZe da ioseb qaTamaZeo. operaciis dros usafrTxoebas xelmZRvanelobda im raionis miliciis ufrosis moadgile, qarTveli, polkovniki nanikaSvili. ngrevis da adamianuri msxverplis gareSe dasrulda operacia, risTvisac 1964 wlis oqtomberSi, ssrk umaRlesi sabWos prezidiumis brZanebulebiT, Cveni nawilis ramdenime mosamsaxure da me dagvajildoes wiTeli varskvlavis ordenebiT.
– mas Semdeg naxevar saukuneze meti gavida. ra urTierTobebi gakavSirebT am qalaqTan dRes?
– axla xarkovTan Cemi kavSiri perioduli stumrobiT Semoifargleba. coli iqauri myavs. nugzari da ruslani iq SemeZina. simamri rom gardaicvala, sidedri saqarTveloSi wamoviyvane da vupatrone, bolos qarTul miwas mivabare. colis naTesavebidan iq damrCa misi ZmisSvili, romelsac Cemi vaJi ruslani ekontaqteba. megobrebTan dRes kavSiri ar maqvs. savaldebulo samxedro samsaxuris Semdeg, swavla gavagrZele xarkovis saavtomobilo-sagzao institutis saRamos ganyofilebaze (dRisiT qarxanaSi vmuSaobdi). instituti 1971 wels davamTavre.
– axla TqvenTvis sayvareli qalaqi saomar mdgomareobaSia. . .
– es omi, rogorc yvelasTvis, CemTvisac moulodneli da mtkivneulia. darRveulia omis warmoebis saerTaSoriso normebi, rac dRemde arsebobda. axla televiziiT rom vuyureb kadrebs, bevri adgili mecnoba. gulSi sisxli meRvreba. im adgilebSi meore msoflio omis narCenebs vebrZodiT. maxsendeba, rogor gavaTavisufleT saxnav-saTesi miwebi, qalaqebi naRmebisagan. gavida 50-55 weli da… axla Zmis mier ibombeba. maxsendeba mweral-akademikos mikola baJanis CemTan Tqmuli sityvebi: `qarTvelebi saocari xalxi xarT. ufals es pativi TqvenTvis rom ar eboZa, unda gamogvegonebina~. es sityvebi im damsaxurebisTvis miTxra, rac xarkovelebs gavukeTe. me, saqarTvelos erT-erTi moqalaqe, qeds vixri Cveni qveynis axalgazrda xelmZRvanelebis winaSe, rom rogorc Signidan, ise garedan arnaxuli wnexis miuxedavad, omis Tavidan acilebas axerxeben. molodini maqvs Zalian negatiuri – rogorc ar unda damTavrdes es omi, gamarjvebuli ar eyoleba. bunebrivia, saomar moqmedebebs mohyva is, rom mosaxleobam mSobliuri karmidamo, sacxovrebeli adgilebi datova, ltolvilad iqca. saqarTvelosTvis ltolvilebis daxmareba Cveulebrivi movlenaa. Cven tolerantobiT gamorCeuli eri varT, dasafasebelia Cveni xalxis mier Segrovili humanitaruli daxmarebis raodenoba – 191 qveyanas Soris saqarTvelo pirvel adgilzea. Cemma ojaxmac miiRo monawileoba am keTilSobilur saqmeSi – sxvadasxva saqoneli CavabareT baTumis universitetis Sesakreb punqtSi.
– wlebis ganmavlobaSi aWaris sagzao policiis ufrosi iyaviT. . .
– xarkovis saavtomobilo-sagzao institutis damTavrebis Semdeg davbrundi baTumSi ojaxTan erTad, vcxovrobdi naqiraveb binaSi. 6 weli profesiiT vimuSave. bolos viyavi saqarTvelos saavtomobilo transportis saministros #4 avtotrestis mmarTvelis moadgile, mTavari inJineri, Semdeg – direqtori. 1977 wels aWaris Sss saxelmwifo avtoinspeqciis ufrosad daviniSne.
– Zmebi, ZmisSvilebi mamiseul keraze cxovrebas agrZeleben. `Suaxevis koloriti~ iyo Tqveni Zma aRali qaTamaZe.
– gamorCeuli pirovneba gaxldaT – erTguli, uRalato, keTilsindisieri da guliani. Cemi Zma rom iyo, imitom ar vambob, aseTad icnobda yvela. 41 wlisa gardaicvala. dResac ver vixseneb cremlis gareSe. aRalis meuRlesa da Zmebs sapatronod dagvrCa sami mcirewlovani Svili – manana, jemali da jondo. Tu ramdenad vizrune ZmisSvilebisTvis gzis gakvlevaze, amas Tavad isini da ufali Seafasebs. minda aRvniSno, rom roca sazogadoebaSi gamovedi, xalxi micnobda rogorc aRali qaTamaZis Zmas.
– Tqveni damokidebuleba marTlmadideblobisadmi?
– monaTluli gaxlavarT. vkiTxullob biblias, locvans, sxva religiur literaturas.
– Tqvenze amboben, Rirseuli mamis Sviliao. . .
– iyo dursun qaTamaZis Svili, saamayocaa da rTulic. sofelSi Zalian didi avtoritetiT sargeblobda, yvela sadavo saqmes wyvetda, WkuissakiTxavi kaci gaxldaT.
– ojaxze ras gvetyviT?
– me da valentinam ori Svili gavzardeT. ufrosi – nugzari TbilisSi cxovrobs da erT-erTi holdingis mmarTvelia. ruslani mezRvauria. ufalma qaliSvili ar mogvca, magram bedma saukeTeso rZlebi gvarguna. Tamriko da nazibrola erTmaneTsac Zalian afaseben da yuradRebas arc Cven gvakleben. SviliSvilebiTa da SvilTaSvilebiT vxarobT.
– Tqveni sanukvari ocneba. . .
– samSoblo vixilo gamTlianebuli, welSi gamarTuli, amayi da istoriul sazRvrebSi dabrunebuli.
