ეკა ჭითავა: არასდროს მეზარება ცოდნის გაზიარება
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erTi welia, internetsivrceSi popularoba moipova literaturulma jgufma `wignipediam~, romlis damfuZnebeli da xelmZRvaneli eka WiTavaa – axalgazrda, mSvenieri kolxi qalbatoni, poeti, warmatebuli pedagogi da ori ukargesi Svilis deda. igi Tavis gulisnadebs drodadro mkiTxvelsac uziarebs literaturul gamocemaSi, ufro metad ki zrunavs imisTvis, rom axalgazrdebSi wignis siyvaruli da literaturuli gemovneba ganaviTaros. `wignebi CemTvis adamianebiviT arian~, – ambobs is da am interviuTi Tavisi Tvalsawieris horizonts gadagviSlis.
– warmoadgineT sakuTari persona. . .
– me var eka WiTava, 34 wlis, inglisuri enis pedagogi. sul ramdenime sityviT warmogidgenT Tavs. miyvars ubraloeba, gulwrfeloba da zomiereba. rasac verasodes Seveguebi, farisevloba da usamarTlobaa. am droisTvis Cemi yvelaze didi gulistkivili Cemi gzadakarguli samSobloa.
– roca bavSvobis dReebs igonebT. . .
– `bavSvoba es aris sicili da mudmivi gazafxuli~. masTan silaRe da siferade makavSirebs. roca adamianebis Secnobas swavlob, albaT iq mTavrdeba bavSvoba, roca acnobiereb, rom mxolod ocnebiT verafers miaRwev da mis axdenas brZola sWirdeba. dRemde am brZolis velze bavSvobis mogonebebi maZlierebs.
– adamianebi, romlebsac emadlierebi da TqvenTvis samagaliToni arian an iyvnen. . .
– CemTvis samagaliTo Cemi winaprebi arian da yovelTvis mowiwebiT vixseneb maT – sufTa da alal-marTal gzaze mosiaruleni. maTgan viswavle moyvasis siyvaruli da mtrisTvis sakadrisis migeba. babua maswavlida, rom aravisTvis meTxova daxmareba, Tuki misi gakeTeba damoukidebladac iyo SesaZlebeli. ar miyvars vinmes winaSe valSi yofna. am principma Camomayaliba damoukidebel adamianad. bevr adamians Sevxvedrivar cxovrebis gzaze, karg adamianebs arasodes viviwyeb, xolo cudebs vakvirdebi da vswavlob, Tu rogor ar unda iqceodes adamiani. Cemi bavSvobis ocneba iyo, mimeRo xarisxiani ganaTleba da yovelTvis myvareboda is saqme, romelsac aviTvisebdi. arc ise ioli iyo ucxo qalaqSi marto yofna, sakuTar Tavs vamxnevebdi da win mivuZRodi. sirTuleebTan erTad, bevri mziani dReebic mqonda. visurvebdi, Cven qveyanaSi students meti xelSewyoba hqondes mTavrobisgan.
– namdvilad didi miRwevaa – Tqven dedanSi kiTxulobT Seqspirs. . . gagviziareT emociebi.
– diax. bavSvobaSi gavecani mis piesebs da sonetebs. Seqspiris, baironis da dikensis siyvarulma ganapiroba, rom specialobad inglisuri ena da literatura avirCie. Seqspirologia detalurad Seviswavle da vTvli, rom misi msoflio aRiareba sruliad samarTliania. SesaniSnavi gancda meufleba yovel jerze mis emociur sasiyvarulo da cxovrebiseul monologebze.
– roca codnasa da siyvaruls sxvas uwiladeb. . .
– yovelTvis mzad var gavce yvela sasargeblo informacia, romelic vici. arasodes mezareba codnis gaziareba. vfiqrob, codnis gaziarebiT, CvenSi metad myardeba is da sruliqmneba. xolo rac Seexeba siyvaruls, Tu miyvars, miyvars yovelgvari farisevlobis gareSe da amas grZnobs yvela Cemi praqtikuli moqmedebiT.
– male saskolo zari axmiandeba. Tqven saklaso oTaxSi ukve meaTe welia, rac SeabijebT rogorc maswavlebeli. . . am xnis ganmavlobaSi ra SeZeliT rogorc novatorma pedagogma?
– 2011 wlidan CarTuli var saganmanaTleblo procesSi. dRemde profesiulad vizrdebi. maswavlebloba ar niSnavs mxolod sagnis swavlebas. moswavleebs vexmarebi fizikuri da gonebrivi unar-Cvevebis CamoyalibebaSi, jansaRi cxovrebis wesis danergvaSi, sazogadoebis da qveynis winaSe sakuTari ufleba-movaleobebis gacnobierebaSi. maswavleblebis roli didia progresulad moazrovne Taobebis SeqmnaSi. socialur sakiTxebze msjeloba Cemi yoveli gakveTilis ganuyofeli nawilia.
– xelovneba giyvarT, poezia ki – gamorCeviT. . . amitomac SeqmeniT feisbuqze `wignopedia~?. . . am jgufis daniSnuleba da samomavlo perspeqtivebi. . .
– erTi welia, rac jgufi Sevqmeni. mindoda, inteleqtualuri wre Semekra, jgufSi yofiliyo literaturuli diskusiebi, jansaRi da argumentirebuli dialogebi. gavaerTiane Cemi moswavleebi da, realuradac, skolaSi SevqmeniT kuTxe amave saxelwodebiT. varCevT avtorebs, wignebs da Semdeg jgufis wevrebs vuziarebT miRebul codnas. Aaseve, miznad davisaxe CrdilSi myofi da sazogadoebisgan verSemCneuli niWieri adamianebis gamomzeureba. internetsivrceSi bevri literaturuli gverdia, umravlesobis mizani momwonebel-gamziareblebis raodenobaa da ara xarisxis dacva. me piriqiT vfiqrob, mTavari xarisxia. am jgufis xelmZRvaneloba CemTvis didi siamovnebaa, romelic minda mkiTxvelmac gaiziaros.
– wignebi, romlebic adamianebiviT giyvarT. . .
– mimaCnia, rom wigni ualternativo ganmanaTlebelia, sulierebis asamaRleblad saWiroa maTTan uwyveti urTierToba. wignebi CemTvis adamianebiviT arian. CemTvis gamorCeul, pirvel adgils Cveni bumberazi mwerlis konstantine gamsaxurdias wignebi ikavebs. misi Semoqmedeba qarTuli sityvis zeimia. Aaseve, mixeil javaxiSvilis da grigol robaqiZis Semoqmedeba.
– leqsebs werT, aqveynebT kidec, rogori gancda geuflebaT, roca saTqmeli furcelze gadadis?
– poezia mTeli Cemi samyaroa. masSi gaziarebulia Cemi sulieri mdgomareoba, gonebrivi warmodgenebi. Cemi poezia CemsaviT gulwrfelia, vfiqrob, jer araferi Semiqmnia, ris gamoc SeiZleba poetad viwodebode. amisTvis vkiTxulob mets, vecnobi Rirebul poezias da literaturul werilebs. mirCevnia, viyo kargi mkiTxveli da varCevde namdvil poezias, vidre viyo cru maqebrebis mier waxalisebuli, SemoqmedebiTad vergazrdili `poeti~. ar mizidavs yalbi mquxare taSi da waxalisebuli uniWoba.
– mainc, ra aris wuTisofeli? raze ocnebobT? ras natrobT?
– ra aris wuTisofeli? TiTqos advili kiTxvaa, magram rTulad pasuxgasacemi. albaT adgili, sadac vicdebiT da viTmenT sxva ukeTesi, maradiuli ganzomilebis molodiniT. CemTvis, rogorc am cxovrebis ukuRmarTobis Rrmad ganmcdevi adamianisTvis, wuTisofeli saxeiro ram ar aris. is CemTvis mudmivad safiqrali da dasakvirvebelia. saboloo pasuxi ar maqvs.
– RmerTs vxedav yvelgan da yvelaferSi. . . RmerTi CvenSia. . . mTeli samyaro RmerTia Tavad – aseT Tvalsazriss xSirad afiqsireben, gansakuTrebiT – poetebi. . .
– mTavaria, RmerTs gavufrTxildeT da davicvaT CvenSi. vfiqrob, sxvagan mas Cveni dacva ar sWirdeba. RmerTs vxedav samarTlian da uSiSar adamianebSi. borotebasTan SeugueblobaSi, daunanebel sikeTesa da erTgulebaSi. Tu es ar gvesmis, azri ar aqvs imis Tqmas, rom RmerTi gviyvars da gvwams. dostoevskim SesaniSnavad gvikarnaxa: `Tanamedrove adamianis yvelaze seriozuli problemebi iqidan modis, rom man dakarga RmerTTan gaazrebuli TanamSromlobis unari~.
– dro, romelSic vcxovrobT, ras moiTxovs Cvengan?
– dro Cvengan moiTxovs mis sworad gamoyenebas. naklebi yuradReba mivaqcioT warsuls da momavals da vkoncertrirdeT mxolod awmyoze. mudmivad unda gvqondes gancda, rom is garantirebuli araa da nebismier wams SeiZleba dasruldes.
– rogorc Cans, baTumi Tqveni sayvareli qalaqia, xSirad stumrobT? ra mogwonT da momavalSi rogori baTumi gsurT ixiloT?
– baTums ase vixsenieb: `Cemi siyvarulis qalaqi~, Cemi qalaqiviT memSobliureba. es misma stumarTmoyvareobam da mimReblobam ganapiroba. mis quCebSi seirnoba saukeTeso Terapiaa Cemi xasiaTisTvis. minda, metad gamwvandes, minda, mis quCebSi meti gaRimebuli da bednieri qarTveli dadiodes.
