,,საქართველოს სტრატეგიული მოკავშირეების ლანძღვა მხოლოდ რუსეთის ინტერესებში შედის”
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Cvens geostrategiul regionSi aucilebelia stabilurobis SenarCuneba, radgan arakeTilismsurvelebma SesaZloa areulobiT isargeblon. 1991-92 wlebis movlenebi amis TvalsaCino magaliTia. xelisuflebas ekisreba pasuxismgebloba, rom qveyanaSi stabiluri, demokratiuli garemo Seiqmnas. udavoa isic, rom qveynis warmatebas mniSvnelovnad ganapirobebs efeqturi saSinao politika, romlis warmmarTveli xelisuflebaa. Tu am kuTxiT SevxedavT saqarTveloSi arsebul realobas, situacia jerjerobiT stabiluria, Tumca Cveni qveyana dasavlur saxelmwifoebs rom demokratiis standartebiT da ekonomikuri keTildReobiT CamorCeba, cxadia, razec opoziciis warmomadgenlebi da Cveni dasavleli partniorebi dReniadag saubroben. amas emateba isic, rom opozicia da xelisufleba samkvdro-sasicocxlod arian urTierTdapirispirebulni, rac saqarTvelosTvis savalaloa. am realobis Taobaze gvesaubreba `strategia aRmaSeneblis~ aWaris organizaciis xelmZRvaneli beqa diasamiZe.
– bolo dros ganviTarebul movlenebze visaubroT, TqvenTvis ra sakiTxebi iyo aqtualuri?
– dameTanxmebiT, politikaSi yvela sakiTxi mniSvnelovania, maT Soris iseTebic, romlebic erTi SexedviT umniSvnelo gvgonia. Tematurad gavyveT mimdinare movlenebs. . . .
– daviwyoT umTavresiT: 12-punqtiani evropuli rekomendaciebis Sesasruleblad mmarTvelma partiam parlamentSi samuSao jgufi Seqmna, saparlamento opoziciis nawili am procesSi monawileobs, nawilma ki uari Tqva, es ramdenad daazaralebs zemoaRniSnuli rekomendaciebis Sesrulebas xelisuflebis mxridan?
– `qarTul ocnebas~ qveyana mihyavs ara evrointegraciisken, aramed ruseTTan maqsimalurad daaxloebisken. maT politikur interesebSi ar Sedis am 12-punqtiani rekomendaciebis Sesruleba, radgan es maTTvis xelisuflebis dakargvis tolfasi iqneba. Sesabamisad, Tu vinme azaralebs evrointegraciis process, es Tavad mmarTveli Zalaa, xolo maTi mxridan viTom samuSao jgufebSi monawileoba farsia. `strategia aRmaSenebeli~ am farsSi monawileobis miRebas ar apirebs.
– xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi am bolo dros xSirad akritikeben opoziciur partiebs da acxadeben, rom isini destruqciulad moqmedeben saxelmwifoze. . .
– Cveni gundi realur nabijebs dgams saqarTvelos evropul ojaxTan dasaaxloeblad. `qarTuli ocnebisgan~ gansxvavebiT, mosaxleobas TvalSi nacars ar vayriT, ruseTTan politikuri garigeba ar gvaqvs dadebuli da arc qveynisTvis Zvirfasi dro ar gagvyavs. Tu es iTvleba destruqciul nabijebad, maSin Cven varT `destruqciulebi~.
– eqspertebi (gia xuxaSvili) qveynisTvis sazianod afaseben mmarTveli partiidan gasulebis (xundaZe, yavelaSvili, subari) bolodroindel gancxadebebs, TiTqos aSS-is saelCos saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis Secvla surs, ramdenad saxifaToa msgavsi gancxadebebi saqarTvelos evropuli momavlisTvis?
– savsebiT veTanxmebi eqspertebis mosazrebas, `gandgomili~ parlamentis wevrebis pozicias da qmedebebs saerTo araferi aqvs Cveni qveynis interesebTan da damazianebelia qarTuli saxelmwifosTvis. saqarTvelos strategiuli mokavSireebis lanZRva mxolod ruseTis interesebSi Sedis.
– sxvaTa Soris, eqspertebi arc opozicias indoben, acxadeben, rom opozicia caitnotSia da jerjerobiT politikur aminds qveyanaSi ver qmnis, ra stadiaSia amJamad opoziciuri speqtri?
– unda viyoT TviTkritikulebi. opoziciis mxridanac aris daSvebuli Secdomebi, magram ara sagareo, aramed Sida politikaSi, kerZod, amomrCevelTan urTierTobaSi. bolo 30 welia, politikosebi vcdilobT Cveni moqalaqeebi qveyanaSi mimdinare movlenebze pasuxismgeblobas avaridoT. drom aCvena, rom politikuri Zalebis sakuTar amomrCevelTan msgavsi damokidebuleba: `mxolod arCevnebze modiT, mxari dagviWireT da danarCens yvelafers Cven gavakeTebT~ (moqalaqis uflebebis dacviT dawyebuli da qveynis ekonomikis mSeneblobiT damTavrebuli) arasworia. Tu gvinda samoqalaqo sazogadoebis aSeneba, maSin unda vicodeT, rom TiToeul Cvengans aqvs am qveynis winaSe pasuxismgebloba da mxolod yvelas CarTulobiT mivaRwevT sasurvel Sedegs. vfiqrob, amomrCevelTan enis moCleqiT saubari, TiTqos `raRacas ver gaigeben~, an pasuxismgeblobis garkveul nawils Tu maT gavunawilebT, magis gamo `gagvibrazdebian~ da politikaze guls aicrueben, arasworia. ar unda mogveridos imis aRiareba, Tu sad gvaqvs, rogorc saxelmwifos, Cavardnebi da mosaxleobas mivmarToT dasaxmareblad, raTa erToblivi ZalebiT movaxerxoT yvela winaaRmdegobis daZleva.
– rogorc gacxadda, Tqveni partia seqtembris dasawyisSi mosaxleobas da opoziciur partiebs gegmas warudgens qveynis saWirboroto sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT, mokled gviambeT amis Sesaxeb.
– ukve arsebobs garkveuli monaxazebi, kvlav mimdinareobs konsultaciebi sxva opoziciur partiebTan poziciebis dasaaxloeblad. mokle droSi damTavrdeba es procesi da aucileblad gavasajaroebT.
– cxadia, gverds ver avuvliT saakaSvilis Temas, misi advokatebis bolodroindeli gzavnilebidan ikveTeba is paTosi, rom mesame prezidenti qarTul politikas emijneba, es ramdenad daazaralebs `nacmoZraobas~ momaval arCevnebSi?
– Zalian mniSvnelovania am procesSi adamianis sicocxle gadavarCinoT. eqimebis ganmartebiT, mesame prezidenti sustad grZnobs Tavs da garkveuli periodis ganmavlobaSi fizikurad mainc ver moaxerxebs politikur procesebSi monawileobas. ra Tqma unda, es garkveul gavlenas moaxdens politikur ZalTa balansze, magram ra mniSvnelobis iqneba, movlenaTa ganviTarebas unda davakvirdeT.
– urTierTbraldebebi qarTul politikaSi araxalia, magaliTad, akaki boboxiZe ambobs, rom Tu opozicia parlaments ar datovebs, maSin isini xelisuflebis satelitebad CaiTvlebian, ras fiqrobT amaze?
– parlamentSi Sesvlas Tavisi pragmatuli daniSnuleba hqonda qveynisTvis da misi evropuli momavlisTvis. Tu gamosvla moxdeba, aqac pragmatulebi unda viyoT. cxadia, mxolod kako boboxiZis neba-survilze ver vivliT.
– `girCi – meti Tavisuflebis~ lideri zura jafariZe acxadebs, rom saSemodgomod opozicia unda gaerTiandes da mZlavri saprotesto aqciebi gamarTos qveyanaSi riggareSe arCevnebis Catarebis moTxovniT, aseTi procesebis ganviTarebas Tu elodebiT?
– rogorc ukve giTxariT, Tu politikosebisgan sazogadoeba pasuxismgeblobas ar aiRebs, Tu Cven, politikosebi ver avuxsniT moqalaqeebs, rom maTi nebis gamoxatulebas qveynis mSeneblobisTvis didi mniSvneloba aqvs, socialuri muxti dabali iqneba. Cemi azriT, es procesi swori mesijebiT unda daiwyos.
– parlamentari daviT usufaSvili acxadebs, rom `axla gadamwyveti momentia – an win evropisken, an ukan ruseTisken~. Tqveni azriT, realurad sakiTxi ase dgas?
– realobaSi namdvilad asea da sruliad veTanxmebi batoni daviTis mosazrebas. Tu Sesabamisi zomebi ar miviReT, xval advili SesaZlebelia, rom sabWoTa kavSirSi gaviRviZoT, magram uares da ara ukeTes versiaSi.
– aranakleb mniSvnelovan sakiTxze msurs Tqveni yuradRebis mipyroba: politikosebi acxadeben, rom aSkaraa ganxeTqileba prezidentsa da mmarTvel partias Soris, kerZod, prezidentma ar waradgina ceskos Tavmjdomared mmarTveli partiis favoriti, es risi maniSnebelia?
– SeiZleba qalbaton salomes garkveuli uTanxmoeba aqvs kobaxiZesTan an RaribaSvilTan, magram biZina ivaniSvilis survilebTan srul harmoniaSia. ase rom, saqarTvelos araformalur mmarTvels prezidentis instituti pirdapir morCilebaSi hyavs. zurabiSvilis perioduli `gamonaTebebi~, romelic sazogadoebis garkveul nawilSi aRfrTovanebas iwvevs, fundamenturi Rirebulebebis rezultats ki ar warmoadgens, aramed sxva, maRali politikuri Tanamdebobis pirebisadmi subieqturi damokidebulebis Sedegia da kuluaruli dapirispirebis xasiaTs atarebs.
– sagareo sakiTxsac SevexoT, rogor afasebT ukrainaSi mimdinare saomar moqmedebebs? da aqve Tanmdevi kiTxva: ra ver gaTvala sworad am mxriv ruseTma?
– am etapze Tamamad SeiZleba iTqvas, rom ruseTma es omi waago, magram ukrainas jer ar mougia. ukrainis SeiaraRebuli Zalebis warmatebebi gvaxarebs. xersonis olqSi kontrSetevaze gadasulma ukrainulma jarma rusebis Tavdacvis pirveli zRude ukve gaarRvia. am omSi es ukrainelebis pirveli warmatebuli operacia ar aris, magram xersonis aReba rusuli SeiaraRebuli Zalebis dasasrulis dasawyisi iqneba. ruseTma ver gaiTvaliswina ukraineli xalxis brZolisunarianoba, xolo sakuTari SesaZleblobebi gadaWarbebulad Seafasa.
– samxedro eqspertebi acxadeben, rom Semodgomis miwuruls ukraina mniSvnelovnad dawinaurdeba, am mxriv ra gavlena eqneba ukrainaSi mimdinare oms evropis da postsabWoTa qveynebis momavalze?
– Semodgomaze am omSi mniSvnelovan Zvrebs unda velodoT ukrainis warmatebis Sedegad. didi mniSvneloba aqvs dasavleTis mxridan iaraRiT daxmarebas. swored amaze iqneba damokidebuli, rodis damTavrdeba es omi, Semodgomaze Tu Semdegi wlis gazafxulze. rac Seexeba postsabWoTa respublikebisa da evropis saxelmwifoebis momavals, ruseTis imperiuli zraxvebis dasusteba da mere srulad gaqroba maTze dadebiTad aisaxeba, radgan msoflios 21-e saukunis Savi safrTxe moexsneba.
– istorias axsovs erebi da saxelmwifoebi, romlebic gaqrnen, Cven rom ar gavqreT, rogorc qveyana, xelisuflebam ra unda gaakeTos?
– gadaWarbebul paTetikaSi ar CamomarTvaT, magram saqarTvelo rogorc saxelmwifo arsebobda, arsebobs da momavalSic iarsebebs, amaSi mtkiced var darwmunebuli. bunebrivia, marto uflis imedad ar unda viyoT, mTavari amocana samoqalaqo sazogadoebis Camoyalibebaa, yvela masSi Semavali da gamomavali pirobebis gaTvaliswinebiT. samoqalaqo sazogadoeba Tavis mxriv demokratiuli saxelmwifos Seqmnis fundamentia, xolo demokratiuli saxelmwifo Zlieri ekonomikisa da bednieri ojaxebis garantiaa.
