,,კავშირი გულთა შორის”
ოთარ ცინარიძე 599 85 21 14 –
aWarasa da mis RirsSesaniSnaobebze Seyvarebuli ambrolaureli poeti, gazeTis `saqarTvelo XXI~ yofili redaqtori, raWasa da ambrolaurSi mravali SemoqmedebiTi proeqtisa da RonisZiebis xelmZRvaneli guram gordeziani Cveni stumaria.
– batono guram, rogor daiwyo Tqveni urTierToba aWaris mTianeTTan?
– aWaridan poetebis miwvevas vapirebdi raWaSi `mxatvruli sityvis saxalxo zeimze~, mindoda roin abuseliZe da genri doliZe Camosuliyvnen CvenTan, magram genrim qva aagdo da Tavi SeuSvira – sanam Tqven ar gvewveviT festivalze `ze-karTan~, manam, Cveni fexi ar iqneba raWaSio! mogexsenebaT, genri gurulia da mogexsenebaT, gurulma rwyilma raWveli WianWvelas wylidan amosayvanad rogor SeZra qveyana… raRa unda meqna? davyabuldi! ase movxvdi ulamazes mTian aWaraSi festivalze `ze-karTan~. SemoqmedebiTad da adamianuri urTierTobebis TvalsazrisiTac, es msuye, cocxali festivalia, niWiT dawyebuli da megobrobiT gagrZelebuli. am festivalis farglebSi, ramdenime leqsi mivuZRveni aWaras, var aWaris `sapatio yabalaxis~ mflobeli. madlobeli var am didebuli festivalis damfuZneblis, baton vaxtang beriZis, romelmac aWaris siyvaruli maCuqa, aseve, tariel futkaraZis da aleqsandre elerdaSvilis, ana laSxelis maradiuli xsovna.
– ramdenad interesdebiT samxreT-dasavleT saqarTvelos istoriiT?
– aramarto vinteresdebi, unda CavTvaloT, rom misi ganuyofeli nawilic var. aTvla daviwyoT simon kananelis pirveli qadagebidan, moveWidoT bagratovanTa dinastiis istoriul safuZvlebs, gadavitanoT yvela is tkivili, wameba, gvema da vaeba, mere es yvelaferi gamovawrToT zurab gorgilaZis cremlSi da Cven ukve yvela im procesis monawileebi vxdebiT, rac arafriT dagvaviwyebs tao-klarjeTs.
– erT-erT festivalze, monawileebsa da bavSvebs axlad gamocemuli leqsebis krebuli usaxsovreT. . .
– Tqven rom faqts ixsenebT, is Cems meeqvse krebuls `odesRac~ exeba. amJamad gamoica meSvide krebuli `sivrce~, romelic mTiani aWaris maJoritarma deputatma, batonma anzor bolqvaZem biblioTekebisaTvis (ormocdaaTi egzemplari) SeiZina, rac didi mxardaWera da poetisaTvis erTgvari Svebacaa.
– Tqveni sponsori da mxardamWeria saqarTvelos parlamentis maJotitari deputati raWa-leCxumsa da svaneTis mxareSi goCa enuqiZe. misi da aWaris mTianeTis maJoritari deputatis urTierTobebi Tqvens Semoqmedebas rogor waadga?
– dadebiTad! rogor SeiZleba urTierTobebma uaryofiTi roli iTamaSos? batoni goCa CemTvis marto deputati araa, is ZmasaviT myavs da udides pativs vcem. man Cemi oTxi poeturi krebuli daafinansa. wigni rom gamovida, informacia socialur qselSi ganvaTavse, rasac seriozuli gamoxmaureba mohyva. mere batoni anzori Semexmiana da miTxra, rom 50 wigni aWaraSi gamomegzavna. ise, poeturi gulwrfelobiT rom giTxraT, am ori didebuli adamianis mxardaWera Cems mevaleebs ufro waadgaT. Tumca, mTeli pasuxismgeblobiT vacxadeb, batonma anzorma kargi wignebi SeuZina axalgazrdobas, yoveli leqsi Tavisuflebis uSecdomo rukaa! – wero leqsi didi SenaZenia, magram mTavari erisa da qveynis siyvaruli, misi damoukideblobisaTvis, SenarCunebisaTvis moRvaweobaa.
– ra grCebaT upirveles safiqralad?
– imis ardaviwyeba, rom ruseTi Cveni dauZinebeli mteria. . .
– yvela aqtiur Semoqmedad gicnobT. Aamjerad ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– ganvaxorcieleT ramdenime SemecnebiTi proeqti, maT Soris, `Zveli didebis nakvalevze~ (avtori fiqria cxvediani). proeqtis mTavari mizania samxreT-dasavleT saqarTvelos safuZvliani Seswavla da igi srulad moicavs tao-klarjeTs. amJamad vemzadebiT baCana bregvaZis saxelobis literaturuli konkursisaTvis `mwignobari 2022~.
– gasuli saukunis 90-iani wlebidan moyolebuli, erovnuli moZraobis saTaveebTan dgaxarT. ra mizeziT datoveT dedaqalaqi da mSobliur ambrolaurs daubrundiT?
– miuxedavad imisa, rom `Sinaur mRvdels Sendoba ara aqvs~, me mainc Cemi mSobeli kuTxis wiaRSi muSaoba varCie da mgoni, miTebsac vamsxvrev. mSobel xalxTan ise iRvawo, rom bolos eriskacad datovo sawuTro, ioli ar mgonia iyos, magram me sirTuleebs virCev, sul ase viqcevi cxovrebaSi.
– dedaqalaqSi darCenil SemoqmedebiT wreebSi momuSave megobrebTan ra urTierTobebi gaqvT?
– `kavSiri gulTa Soris~. . .
– ar gveguleba Rirseuli qarTveli, romelic ukrainaSi mimdinare movlenebs miRma darCeba. Tqveni azri?
– ukraina gaimarjvebs!
– qarTuli soflis dacla-dacarieleba grZeldeba. qarTuli soflis momavali aWarisa da raWis fonze rogoria?
– es sakiTxi ukve aRaraa aWarisa da raWis fonze gansaxilveli, radgan migracia ukve erovnul problemad, lamis katastrofad iqca. vinc am procesebs saqarTvelos sasargeblod Semoabrunebs, rogorc didi murmani ityoda, is iqneba `saqarTvelos mesame sveti~. . .
– xom ar apirebT, qarTuli soflis problemebs mxatvruli nawarmoebi miuZRvnaT?
– diax, vapireb, nawarmoebis ConCxi TiTqmis maqvs. es iseTi Temaa, enis moCleqiT ver dawer, pirdapiri da gulwrfeli unda iyo, amasTanave, cxeni Sekazmuli unda gyavdes, Tumca, simarTle giTxraT, leqsebis axali wignic sakmaod mwvave problemebiTaa savse.
– axlad gamocemuli krebulis laitmotivi raa?
– Tavisufleba! samSoblo! siyvaruli!
– zurab qafianiZes fridon xalvaSis saxiT hyavda Tanamodarde megobari. Tqven arCevans visze SeaCerebT?
– yvelaze, vinc zurab gorgilaZis poezias msoflio literaturis Sedevrad aRiqvams. . .
– festivali `ze-karTan~ axlovdeba, gaqvT survili rom CamobrZandeT?
– Tu janmrTeloba xels Semiwyobs, aucileblad Camoval. Tumca manamde vmuSaob proeqtebze, romelic saSualebas mogvcems, aRvadginoT raWul-aWaruli kulturuli urTierTobebi. kidev erTxel minda didi madloba gadavuxado baton anzors mxardaWerisaTvis.
