ნინო ქადაგიძე: მასწავლებლობა ალესილი დანის პირზე სიარულს ჰგავს
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Cveni qveynis momavlis saZirkveli da bedis ganmsazRvreli is Taobaa, romlis warmomadgenlebic axla saskolo merxebs usxedan. . . maT gonebriv da sulier sijansaReze zrunva ki is umTavresi mizania, pedagogis daniSnulebas rom ganapirobebs. kargi pedagogi gzamkvlevia moswavlis, misi momavlis da, amdenad, mTeli sazogadoebisac. rCeuli pedagogis gamocdilebis gaziareba mraval axalbeda maswavlebels swor gzas uCvenebs. swored am mizniT movixmeT dRes `aWarasTan~ dialogisTvis erT-erTi gamorCeuli pedagogi, mwerali nino qadagiZe, romelmac literaturul sarbielze ukve miipyro yuradReba da Tavisi adgilic daimkvidra, 2014 wels gamocemulma misma miniaturebis krebulma `cercvistola ambebi~ mkiTxvelis daintereseba da mowoneba daimsaxura. garda amisa, is aris araerTi literaturuli konkursis gamarjvebuli. . .
– rogor aRiqvamT sakuTar Tavs, anu ras ityvis nino qadagiZe nino qadagiZis Sesaxeb?
– bevrs verafers vityvi sakuTar Tavze, mec wlebis ganmavlobaSi TandaTan vecnobi. xom amboben, erTia adamians vin hgonia Tavi, meore – sxvebi rogor aRiqvamen mas da mesame – sinamdvileSi vin aris. ai, swored garkvevis procesSi var mec. sinamdvileSi vin var? albaT, es gacnoba Tu Tavis Secnoba gagrZeldeba bolo amosunTqvamde da mainc ar mecodineba, sabolood vin var.
– dabadebis dRe – fizikuri da sulieri, Tqveni transformacia dRemde. . .
– am samyaroSi pirvel ivniss Semomabijebines Cemda uneburad. wminda ninos saqarTveloSi Semosvlis dRea, ninoobaa da gansakuTrebulad miyvars. pirvel ivnisze Zalian bevri SemiZlia visaubro. . . rac Seexeba sulier saxecvlilebas, maxsendeba saxareba bavSvebisaTvis, komiqsi. Zalian miyvarda misi kiTxva. maSin albaT 9-10 wlis viqnebodi, vxvdebodi, rom zRapari ar iyo, arc miTi, raRac ze-ambavTan mqonda saqme. vfiqrob, maSin davibade sulierad, im droidan daviwye RmerTis Zieba da dRemde grZeldeba.
– pedagogi, prozaikosi, poeti – ukeT romel sferoSi SeZeliT TviTrealizacia?
– samive sityva imdenad xmamaRla JRers, cota maSinebs. me xmadabla visaubreb. maswavleblobaze bavSvobidan vocnebobdi, zustad vicodi, rom gavizrdebodi, maswavlebeli unda vyofiliyavi. Tojinebs Camovamwkrivebdi divanze, vurigebdi Cemive dawebebul-Sekowiwebul cicqna rveulebs, me vwerdi, me vasworebdi, me vekiTxebodi, meve vpasuxobdi, Tojinebis sias vkiTxulobdi, wignebs vukiTxavdi… Tumca arc Zalian Sors wavsulvar am TamaSidan. rogorc maswavlebelma, pirvelad skolis kari 21 wlis asakSi SevaRe. maSin frangul enasa da literaturas vaswavlidi meeqvse-meSvideklasel bavSvebs da zustad vicodi, sakontrolo werebis dros, maSin Semajamebel werebs ase erqva, sad malavdnen `Spargalkebs~. bavSvebi gaocebulebi miyurebdnen xolme, – rogor xvdebiT, mas? rogor poulobT, sad vmalavT `Spargalkas~? – mekiTxebodnen, me ki RimiliT vpasuxobdi, nu gaviwydebaT, mxolod ramdenime wliT var Tqvenze ufrosi, skola mec guSin davamTavre-meTqi. Zalian rTuli gamodga maswavlebloba. alesili danis pirze siaruls hgavs, frTxilad, dakvirvebiT, SeZlebisdagvarad Seucdomlad unda iaro, rom ar daiRupo arc Sen da arc moswavle daRupo. Tumca, vfiqrob, Zalian bevri ram SemeSala da vswavlob dRemde maswavleblobas. rac Seexeba prozaikosobas, rogorc zemoT vTqvi, es sityvac Zalian yviris. imdenad gansakuTrebulad miyvars qarTuli ena, wera da literatura, ver warmomidgenia, rom ar davwero, es SeuZlebelia, Tumca am bolo dros imaze bevrs vkiTxulob, vidre vwer. esec Zalian saWiroa. poetoba ki naklebad maSinebs, radgan SeiZleba sulac ar Seqmna leqsi, magram poeti iyo. CemTvis yvelaferi, rac am samyaroSia, niavis qrolvac, zRvis talRebis mimoqcevac poeziaa da yvelaze didi poeti RmerTia, sxvanairad amdeni silamaze rogor unda Seeqmna? sabolood, gamovdivar dRemde maswavleblobis Semswavleli, qarTuli sityvis moyvaruli, poeturi sulis adamiani, sul es aris.
– `feisbuqSi~ emociur postebs aqveynebT: `me, ubralod, CemTvis, Cumad, xmis CaxleCamde miyvars Cemi qveyana, rom vfiqrdebi, me vin var, ras vakeTeb misTvis, veranair keTil saqmes ver vpoulob~. . . ver dageTanxmebiT, Tqven xom oci welia skolaSi pedagogad muSaobT, gana es ukeTilSobilesi garja ar aris?
– erTi SexedviT keTili saqmea, magram, rogorc zemoT vTqvi, did sifrTxiles moiTxovs da yvelaze mTavari isaa, rogori moqalaqeebi gaizrdebian Seni moswavleebi, rogori adamianebi gaxdebian, visac vaswavli. Tu kargebi iqnebian, ai, maSin SeiZleba vTqva, rom keTilsindisierad gavisarje, fuWad ar Caiara Cemma Sromam. rTulia Zalian. . .
– `amboben, gauWirdebaT xolme da RmerTi maSin axsendebaTo, sulac ar mgonia, rom swyindes es RmerTs~ – ganavrceT Tqveni es Tvalsazrisi. . .
– hoo, es ambavi erTi nacnobis gamo davwere. megobarsac ver vuwodeb. SeiZleba is adamiani Tveebis ganmavlobaSi ar menaxa, ar gvqonoda urTierToba, magram rodesac ki raime problema gamouCndeboda an sulierad uWirda, sadac ar unda vyofiliyavi, momZebnida, xmas momawvdenda da metyoda, SenTvis rom ar meTqva, ar SemeZlo, an ise mtkioda, im wams Sen gamaxsendi da mindoda momeyolao. . . . sulac ar mabrazebda da ar mwyinda es ambavi, piriqiT, maxarebda xolme da amitom davwere, Tu me, ubralo mokvdavs, maxarebs didi xnis unaxavi adamiani tkivilebiT savse rom morbis CemTan SvebisTvis, nugeSisTvis da vcdilob, Sevewio sityvierad, gana RmerTs es Cvenze ufro metad ar gaaxarebs-meTqi. Tundac gasaWirSi rom miixed-moixedo, xeli veravis mohkido da RmerTs CaebRauWo, ara mgonia, ewyinos. sixaruli da mwuxareba xom Zmebi ariano. Tu sixarulSi ara, mwuxarebaSi mainc rom axsendebi vinmes, esec saqmea.
– ramdenime literaturuli konkursis gamarjvebuli xarT, ras niSnavs es aRiareba?
– ar vici, albaT, sakiTxavia, es aRiarebaa Tu ara. Jiuri yovelTvis subieqturi mgonia, Tumca mixaria, ra Tqma unda, sakuTari Tavisadmi rwmenas da TviTdajerebulobas mmatebs, sxva araferi. . .
– 2014 wels gamoica Tqveni miniaturebis krebuli `cercvis tola ambebi~, gviambeT amis Sesaxeb. . . da aqve – ras ukavSirdeba krebulis saxelwodeba?
– diax, es miniaturebis krebulia da moculobiT cercvs Sevadare. amitomac vuwode ase – mcire, erTi cida ambebi. Zalian momwons da msiamovnebs miniaturis JanrSi muSaoba, vcade cota vrceli moTxrobebis Seqmnac, davwere ramdenime, magram Camovuyevi da vSale da vSale, miniaturamde daviyvane. mgonia, ramdenime sityviT ufro bevrs vambob. Tanac Zalian miyvars Cemi mkiTxveli, xSirad madloba gadauxdiaT ama Tu im miniaturis gamo, arada ar ician, rom me var maTi madlobeli. aqve visargebleb SemTxveviT da Cems yvela mkiTxvels madlobas gadavuxdi.
– rogor SeafasebdiT dRevandel literaturul procesebs, Cveni realoba ramdenad asazrdoebs da moqmedebs literaturis ganviTarebasa da xarisxze?
– Zalian rTuli kiTxvaa da albaT cota subieqturi viqnebi. mogexsenebaT, ra periodebic gaiara TxuTmetsaukunovanma qarTulma mwerlobam, iyo dro da Zalian xSiradac, mwerali eris winamZRoli gaxldaT, meoce saukuneSi ki cenzurisgan gadasarCenad ra xerxs aRar mimarTavdnen Cveni mwerlebi. oTxmocdaaTiani wlebidan TiTqos ganTavisuflda qarTuli sityva. Tavisuflad amoTqves Tanamedrove mwerlebma saTqmeli, zogma JargoniTac, quCurad da mgonia, aman cota gaaRiziana mkiTxveli, magram viciT, rom uaxles literaturas Tanamedrove mwerlebi qmnidnen da axlac qmnian. bunebrivia, yvela simZime da sixaruli, rac ki gamoviareT da rasac Semdgom gavivliT, aucileblad aisaxeba literaturaSi. literatura magonebs zeTis saRebavebiT Sesrulebul tilos, romlis aRqmac Zalian axlodan, ase vTqvaT, `cxviris dadebiT~ SeuZlebelia. cota unda daSorde da mere mixvdebi, ra weria am tiloze. asevea literaturac, gaivlis cota dro da Tanamedrove literaturuli procesebis Sefasebis saSualebac mogvecema. sulierad ramdenad kvebavs Tanamedrove literatura axal Taobas, am gadmosaxedidan Tqma cota miWirs.
– xSirad gaigonebT, mwerlebis dro wavida, isini dinozavrebiviT gadaSendebiano. . . saerTod, rogor warmogidgeniaT momavlis mwerali?
– vfiqrob, arasdros wava mwerlebis dro, iseve rogorc mxatvrebis, musikosebis, radgan Tanamedrove xelovani mematianecaa im ambebisa, rac mis garSemo xdeba. es aisaxeba xelovnebis yvela dargSi. Tanamedrove teqnologiebi sulac ar uSlis xels beWdur produqcias, piriqiT, arCevanis did saSualebas iZleva, visac rogor urCevnia, ise waikiTxos. mTavaria mweralma, musikosma, mxatvarma daweros, Seqmnas.. momavlis mwerali Tavisi Tanamedroveobis saxe iqneba, imas dawers da imaze dawers, rac momavlis adamianebis interesis wyaro iqneba. sxvanairad ar xdeba, radgan, rogorc enaa cocxali organizmi da icvleba saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi, aseve icvleba adamiani – xelovani Tavisi saTqmeliT, damokidebulebiT. . .
– adamianebi, romelTa arsebobam da magaliTma Zala SegmataT?
– bavSvobidan pirvelad ojaxis wevrebi da axloblebi, naTesavebi maxsendeba, romelTa gamxnevebisa da zrunvis gareSec warmoudgenelia, ganviTardes adamiani. Zala Semmata da samyaro sxvanairi damanaxa Cemma qarTulis maswavlebelma, qalbatonma manana yuraSvilma, dResaswauli iyo mis gakveTilebze daswreba. Semdeg, ilias saxelmwifo universitetSi magistraturaze swavlisas keTili magaliTi iyo ramdenime leqtori, maT Soris cira barbaqaZe, qeTevan bezaraSvili, levan gigineiSvili. . .
– raze swuxarT da ra gaxarebT, dRevandelobas rogor aRiqvamT?
– realuradac da virtualuradac, socialuri qseli ki amis mZafrad danaxvis saSualebas gvaZlevs, vwuxvar adamianebis mier erTmaneTis mimarT gamoxatuli upativcemulobis, usiyvarulobis, daundoblobis gamo, sul mcire adamianuri sikeTe ki maxarebs, erTi tkbili sityva, Tundac is, rom mercxlebma Cems aivanze bude gaikeTes, an Cemma Cargulma sami wlis atamma wels erTi cali nayofi maCuqa, yovel dilas mzis amosvla Zalian mixaria.
– Tviseba, romelic yvelaze sasurvelia adamianisTvis?
– albaT, keTilsindisiereba da Tavmdabloba, yvela Wiris saTave usindisoba da sakuTar Tavze didi warmodgenis qona mgonia.
– roca marto rCebiT, raze fiqrobT umetesad?
– pandemiis gamo am bolo dros xSirad miwevs marto yofna, es Cems bunebriv mdgomareobadac ki iqca TiTqos – isedac sul vcdilobdi ganmartoebas. fiqri Zalian miyvars, axloblebi xumrobiT `fiqriasac~ meZaxian, vfiqrob yvelaferze.
– SeCerdi, wamo! wamiT mSvenierebis da sidiadis aRqma. . . ginatriaT wamis SeCereba?
– diax, minatria Zalian bevrjer, axla rac maxsendeba – pirvelad bavSvobaSi vinatre, siRnaRidan alaznis vels rom gadavxede, mindoda, dro gaCerebuliyo, sul iq vmdgariyavi da mecqira, ar mindoda saxlSi dabruneba. erTxel gergeTze asulma vinatre wamis SeCereba, xevis mTebs rom gavxede, maSin mivxvdi, rom marTlac daxatulia Cveni mTa-bari. erTxel ZilSi fsalmunis teqsts vambobdi da iseTi tkbili SegrZneba iyo. . . rom gamoviRviZe, gaqra da maSinac vinatre, netav, es SegrZneba saukunod gagrZelebuliyo. . . xSirad, xSirad minatria wamis SeCereba.
– rogor fiqrobT, ra tradicia unda SevinarCunoT da ra uarvyoT?
– Zalian momwons qarTuli tradiciebi, yvela kuTxes gansakuTrebuli da gamorCeuli wes-Cveulebebi aqvs, magram yvelaze umTavresad da gansakuTrebulad marTlmadidebluri tradiciebis SenarCuneba mimaCnia Cveni qveynisTvis, radgan marTlmadidebloba da erovneba erTmaneTze iyo gadajaWvuli saukuneebis ganmavlobaSi.
– romeli cxovrebiseuli problemis gadawyveta migaCniaT dReisaTvis yvelaze saSurad?
– nebismieri situacia, romelic diskomforts gvagrZnobinebs, ukve problemaa. problemebs ra dalevs Cvens cxovrebaSi. arsebobs subieqturi da obieqturi problemebic, magram, zogadad, jandacvis sferoSi arsebuli problemebis mowesrigeba mimaCnia yvelaze mniSvnelovnad Tanamedrove yofaSi. pandemiam pirispir dagvayena am sferoSi arsebuli problemebis winaSe da, samwuxarod, uamravi adamiani Seiwira.
– dabolos, romeli fraziT daamTavrebdiT Cvens dRevandel saubars?
– bevri fiqris, mcdelobis, moqmedebisa Tu msjelobis miuxedavad, mainc yvelaferi aucileblad iqneba ise, rogorc unda iyos.
