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laSa bolqvaZe – profesionali, SemoqmedebiTi unar-CvevebiT da kreatiulobiT gamorCeuli leqtoria, sxva dadebiT TvisebebTan erTad igi uSualobiTac gamoirCeva, studentebsa da kolegebSi pativiscemas imsaxurebs. igi gaxlavT aWaris savaWro-samrewvelo palatis mrCeveli diplomatiur sakiTxebSi da biznesmenTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare, garda amisa, bsu-is doqtorantia (lingvistika – diplomatiur diskursSi) da amave universitetSi miwveulia iaponuri enis leqtorad. profesiaSi warmatebuli leqtori saintereso sulieri samyaroTic aris dajildoebuli. es kargad Cans am interviuSic.
– laSa bolqvaZe – axalgazrda leqtori mravalmxrivi interesebiT. . . ras daamatebdiT, rogor daaxasiaTebdiT sakuTar Tavs?
– yvelas da yvelafris daxasiaTeba SeiZleba, Tumca yvelaze Zneli sakuTari Tavis daxasiaTebaa. ufro saintereso iqneba xalxis Sefaseba.
– gviambeT bavSvobaze – rogor izrdebodiT da rogor moxvediT dRemde?
– ar viyavi zedmetad gaTamamebuli, yovelgvari privilegiebis gareSe vcxovrobdi, radgan samxedro piris ojaxSi davibade da gavizarde. miuxedavad imisa, rom im dros CvenTvisac, sxvebis msgavsad, gaWirveba ucxo ar iyo, mkacrad mzrdidnen, magram mainc karg, udardel, lamaz garemoSi gavizarde, radgan mSoblebi Cemi da Cemi Zmis momavlisaTvis arafers iSurebdnen. swavlis fuls, aseve cekvis gastrolebisTvis saWiro finansebs vsesxulobdiT xolme. maxsovs, mamam rogor gauyida dedas oqros samkaulebi. . . saerTod, yvelafers yiddnen, rac Zvirfasi ebadaT, raTa Sesabamisi ganaTleba migveRo da sxvadasxva aqtivobaSi CavrTuliyaviT, ganvviTarebuliyaviT. wlebis Semdeg, roca ojaxis materialuri mdgomareoba gaumjobesda, gayiduli oqro mamam xelmeored iyida da dedas isev aCuqa. es faqti CemTvis erT-erTi saukeTeso magaliTi da saxsovaria, romelic damrCa mSoblebisgan. garegnobiT mamas Cemi Zma ufro hgavs, xasiaTiT ki me. miuxedavad imisa, rom mSoblebi sazogadoebaSi mkacrebi da kritikulebi iyvnen Cven mimarT, ojaxSi yovelTvis Tbili, mosiyvarule, mxiaruli da saocrad megobruli garemo gvqonda. aseT garemoSi viswavle moTmineba, gamZleoba, dauRalavi Sroma, megobroba, Tanadgoma da fexze myarad dgoma.
– skolis da studentobis wlebs rogor gaixsenebT?
– Zalian kargad maxsendeba Tavisi dadebiTi da Tundac uaryofiTi movlenebiT. SeiZleba iTqvas, yvelaze nayofieri wlebia swavlisa da ganviTarebis mxriv. Sesabamisad, yvelas vurCev, es wlebi fuWad ar gafanton da nayofierad gamoiyenon.
– mSoblebisa da pedagogebis roli – Tqvens pirovnebad CamoyalibebaSi.
– ra Tqma unda, maTi wvlili Seufasebelia, vinaidan bavSvis aRzrda xangrZlivi, Sromatevadi, sapasuxismgeblo, urTulesi procesia. aRzrda iwyeba ojaxidan da rodesac patara sazogadoebaSi, anu skolaSi gadainacvlebs, pirovnebad yalibdeba. Seudarebeli maswavleblebi myavda. skolis saswavlo programidan dawyebuli, qcevis wesebiTa da zogadi ganaTlebiT damTavrebuli, gvaswavles, ra aris swori da araswori, rogor unda gavxdeT sazogadoebis wevrebi da am sazogadoebaSi rogor unda vicxovroT. maTi yuradReba skolis farglebsac scdeboda da gvexmarebodnen yvelaferSi. skolis yvela TanamSromeli, direqtoridan – damlageblamde, Zalian aqtiurebi, motivirebulni, mowadinebulni, organizebulebi iyvnen da darwmunebuli var, es SemarTeba gadmomedo da dRemde momyveba, amitom xulos saSualo skolis personali Zalian miyvars da vafaseb.
– ra roli uWiravs Tqvens cxovrebaSi ojaxs?
– rogorc jorj sataiana ityoda: ojaxi bunebis erT-erTi Sedevria. igi kacobriobis saTavea. amitomac adamianis cxovrebaSi erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi adgili uWiravs. mTeli cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi ojaxi gvanebivrebs uamravi RirebulebiT. me mas samyaros marTvis kompasad vTvli, ojaxi gvixatavs momavlis suraTs da gviCvenebs cxovrebis gzas, sZens azrs, gviRviZebs survils, gvaZlevs imeds, gvicocxlebs Sinagan me-s da gvagrZnobinebs, rom cocxlebi varT da, amavdroulad, mokvdavebi, amitom aucilebelia gzaze erTi adgilis tkepnis nacvlad ganuwyvetliv winsvla. am yvelafers sworedac rom aqvs zebunebrivi, amouxsneli Zala simaRleebze ayvanisa. am yvelafridan gamomdinare, vfiqrob, rom aravis aqvs ufleba Tqvas, rom ojaxze maRla sxva ram dgas.
– cxovrebaSi ra mizanic gqondaT dasaxuli, Tu miaRwieT da problemebs rogor umklavdebiT?
– miuxedavad aTwliani swavlisa da Sromisa, romelic Cemi miznis miRwevis winapiroba iyo da iqamde erTi nabijiRa maklda, Cems cxovrebaSi moxda samwuxaro faqti – mama gardamecvala, ris gamoc momiwia arCevanis gakeTeba da me karierasa da ojaxs Soris ojaxi varCie – davbrundi Cems raionSi. amas emateboda isic, rom Cemi gamocdilebis Sesabamis samsaxurs ver vpoulobdi. miuxedavad problemebisa, arasdros damiyria far-xmali, piriqiT, yovelTvis pozitiurad viyavi ganwyobili da yvelaferi Tavidan daviwye. am garemoebam Zalian bevri nacnobi da axlobeli SemZina, viswavle adamianebis garCeva. etapobrivad vaRwevdi miznebs, ar vuSindebodi winaRobebs, riTac dRemde movedi da vcdilob, viyo Cemi qveynis samsaxurSi.
– Tqven ara mxolod axalgazrda biznesmenTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare brZandebiT, aramed iaponur enas aswavliT studentebs. riTi migizidaT iaponurma kulturam?
– me Zalian miyvars yvelaferi, rasac vakeTeb, Tumca studentebTan urTierToba da muSaoba CemTvis ara marto saqme, aramed fufunebaa. araCveulebrivi Taoba modis da masTan megobroba gvmarTebs. kulturasTan dakavSirebulic yvelaferi miyvars da mizidavs, vinaidan es aris sxvadasxva eris warsulisa da awmyos ukeT gagebis, dRemde motanili codnis, gamocdilebis Secnoba-gaziarebis mniSvnelovani meqanizmi. mas aqvs TviTSenarCunebis unikaluri buneba specifikuri, tradiciuli, istoriuli RirebulebebiTa da TviTmyofadobiT, erovnuli xasiaTiTa da erisadmi kuTvnilebis aRqmiT. . . roca am unikalurobas siRrmiseulad akvirdebi, usasrulobamde gizidavs. CemTvis ufro saintereso iaponuri kultura aRmoCnda – sxva profesiebTan erTad, iaponistic var. iaponuri enis paralelurad iaponur kulturas, istorias vswavlobdi da Zalian maleve mivxvdi, rom sxva qveynebis kulturebisgan gamorCeul, saocar kulturas gavecani. es eri magnitiviT mizidavs TavazianobiT, TavmdablobiT, pativiscemis, madlierebis gamoxatviT. es aris ena da kultura, romelSic gineba ar arsebobs, midrekilia zrdilobiani formebisken, samarTlianobisken, rac aisaxeba maT qcevebze Sin da gareT, saqmiani da yoveldRiuri cxovrebis etiketze. es yvelaferi qmnis iaponuri kulturis unikalurobas – misgan mxolod kargs, dadebiTs iTviseb.
– Tqveni azriT, ra aris mTavari cxovrebaSi?
– rTuli kiTxvaa, visTvis – rogor, Tumca CemTvis mTavari siyvarulia! yvelafers siyvaruliT vakeTeb. es aris adamianis arsebobis mTavari mamoZravebeli Zala.
– ra mogwonT yvelaze metad bunebasa da adamianSi?
– yvelaferi bunebis nawilia da maT Soris adamianic. rogor SeiZleba ar mogwondes da ar ufrTxildebode adamiani bunebas?!rac Seexeba adamians, adamianebSi momwons sami faseuloba: Sroma, samarTlianoba, Tavmdabloba. am faseulobebis gareSe adamianTan grZelvadiani urTierTobebi CemTvis diskomfortia.
– rogori intuicia gaqvT? qvecnobiers Tu uRrmavdebiT?
– intuicia arasdros mRalatobs, magram, zogadad, mecnieris tipi var, rac imas gulisxmobs, rom yvela sakiTxis siRrmiseulad Seswavla miyvars. es pirovnuli Tviseba gvxvdeba ZiriTadad iaponelebSi.
– Tavisufal dros rogor isvenebT da aqve – Tanmdevi kiTxva: vin arian Tqveni megobrebi?
– radgan bevri muSaoba miwevs, ojaxsa da megobrebTan urTierTobaa CemTvis dasveneba. vcdilob, maTTan urTierTobis dro produqtiulad gamoviyeno.
– sulieri cxovreba rogor gesmiT?
– materialur samyaroSi sulieri cxovreba umZimesi, warmoudgenlad rTuli gzaa, Sesabamisad, gviWirs imis aRqma, rom mTeli samyaroc ki ar Rirs imdeni, ramdenic erTi adamianis suli. Tu adamians sulierebis gageba, Secnoba ar surs, vfiqrob, misi adamianuroba sakiTxavia.
– dabolos, romeli fraziT daamTavrebdiT Cvens dRevandel saubars?
– `arcerTi Cvengani ar aris iseTi Wkviani, rogoric yvela varT erTad~ – ken blanSari.