დასავლეთის მხარდაჭერა – საქართველოს ევროინტეგრაციის ფორმულა
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dasavleTSi karga xania gaacnobieres, rom qveynis stabilurobisTvis politikur partiebs Soris SeTanxmeba sxvadasxva sakiTxze aucilebelia. Tu am kuTxiT SevxedavT saqarTveloSi mimdinare movlenebs, suraTi arasaxarbieloa. opozicia mmarTvel partias adanaSaulebs arastabiluri politikuri garemosa da arasaxarbielo ekonomikuri mdgomareobis gamo. Tavis mxriv xelisufleba opoziciis destruqciulobaze saubrobs da ase grZeldeba wlidan wlamde, rac, cxadia, vnebs Cvens evropul perspeqtivas, arada saqarTveloSi dRes mimdinare movlenebi mravalmxriv mniSvnelovania swored Cveni evrointegraciis kuTxiT, rac badebs araerT kiTxvas: ramdenad argumentirebulia opoziciis SeniSvnebi xelisuflebisadmi, risi maniSnebelia dasavleTis pretenziebi saqarTvelos mmarTveli partiisadmi da saerTod, miaRweven Tu ara SeTanxmebas xelisufleba da opozicia qveynisTvis saWirboroto sakiTxebSi? am da sxva aqtualur sakiTxebze `aWarasaTan~ `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ aWaris axalgazrduli organizaciis lideri aleqsandre fifia saubrobs.
– vidre bolodroindel movlenebze visaubrebdeT, sainteresoa, zogadad rogor SeafasebdiT qveyanaSi arsebul viTarebas?
– qveyanaSi arsebuli viTarebis Sefasebamde aucileblad unda aRvniSno, rogori mniSvnelovani gamowvevis winaSe dgas dRes saxelmwifo da sruliad eri. gvaqvs unikaluri da realuri SesaZlebloba, viyoT didi evropuli ojaxis srulfasovani wevri. evrointegraciis procesi ualternativoa da saqarTvelosTvis gadarCenas, ganviTarebas niSnavs. samwuxarod, dRes saqarTvelosTvis evrointegraciis procesi da misken mimavali gzebi gayinulia da mas qveyanaSi xelovnurad Seqmnili mZime mdgomareoba iwvevs.
– gasagebia, rom opozicia ukmayofiloa arsebuli xelisuflebis saqmianobiT, Tumca mmarTveli partia acxadebs, rom qveyana Tanmimdevrulad viTareba, opoziciis SeniSvnebi ramdenad obieqturi da argumentirebulia?
– opoziciuri speqtridan SeniSvnebi da Sefasebebi eyrdnoba mZime, mSral faqtebs, statistikas, romelic, ZiriTadad, socialuri gamokiTxvebis Sedegad vlindeba, statistikas, romlis mixedviTac saqarTvelodan aseuli aTasobiT adamiania emigraciaSi wasuli da am qveynis bedi swored am emigrantebzea damokidebuli, statistikas, romlis mixedviTac am mcire erSi samocdaaTi aTasze meti bavSvi SimSilobs. yvelaze mZime is aris, rom dRes socialuri gamokiTxvebis gareSec, SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac ki aris SesaZleblebeli imis danaxva, ramdenad uWirs mosaxleobis sakmaod did nawils sxvadasxva mimarTulebiT – uamravi socialuri problemis winaSe vdgavarT.
– azrTa sxvaoba gamoiwvia parlamentis mier `mosmenebis~ Sesaxeb kanonis miRebam da saxalxo damcvelis arCevis wesTan dakavSirebiT mmarTveli partiis poziciam, Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb?
– mxolod erTi STabeWdileba mrCeba, rac aqamdec mqonda, `qarTuli ocneba~ cdilobs saqarTvelosTvis evropuli perspeqtivis warTmevas. `mosmenebis kanoni~ usazRvros xdis mmarTveli partiis mzakvrul ganzraxvebs, pirdapir ewinaaRmdegeba adamianebis uflebebs, ewinaaRmdegeba 12-punqtian rekomendaciebs. rac Seexeba saxalxo damcvelis arCevis wesis Secvlas, radgan es sakiTxi dRis wesrigSi dadga, es imas niSnavs, rom `ocnebas~ zemoxsenebulis eSinia, ufrTxis, radgan iseTi farTo areali ar eZleva samoZraod, ramdenic mas surs. qalbatoni lomjaria, namdvilad Rirseuli, maRali samoqalaqo TviTSegnebis mqone adamiani yelSi eCxireba mmarTvel partias, romelic am institutis miukerZoeblobas ver egueba. imedi maqvs, sawadels ver miaRweven.
– rogorc cnobilia, opoziciis nawilma (`nacmoZraobam~) riggareSe arCevnebis sakiTxi daayena da saprotesto aqciebis gamarTvac daaanonsa, Tqveni partiis pozicia rogoria?
– amaze msjeloba mimdinareobs. Cven ar vufrTxiT quCidan brZolas da sakanonmdeblo organoSic ar vzogavT Tavs. riggareSe arCevnebi niSnavs cvlilebebs, romlebic saqarTvelos haeriviT sWirdeba.
– arasaparlamento opoziciis nawili (`leiboristuli partia~, `evropuli saqarTvelo~) mouwodebs saparlamento opozicias, datovos parlamenti, Tu ganixileba Tundac Tqvens partiaSi parlamentis datoveba?
– jerjerobiT amaze ver visaubreb, magram faqti erTia – aqamde `lelo~ cdilobda da yovelTvis Seecdeba opoziciuri (ara mxolod politikuri gaerTianebebi, aramed opoziciurad ganwyobili adamianebic, apartiulebic, aqtivistebic da a.S.) erTianobis SenarCunebas. Cven orive frontze brZolis sakmaod kargi gamocdileba gvaqvs – quCaSic da parlamentSic. Tavdapirvelad arc boikotze dagvixevia ukan da ar SevsulvarT manamde, sanam xelSi seriozuli berketi ar Cagvivarda (Sarl miSelis dokumentis saxiT), romelic Semdgom `qarTulma ocnebam~ anulirebulad gamoacxada.
– opoziciis wevrebi xazs usvamen, rom dasavleTis SeniSvnebi xelisuflebis mimarT kritikulia da Tu ase gagrZelda, SesaZloa, qveyanam gaisadac ver miiRos kandidatis statusi, ras fiqrobT?
– ubralod, faqtis konstatacia: dasavleTisgan rekomendaciebis miRebidan ramdenime Tvis Semdeg mmarTveli Zala cdilobs ZalaSi Seiyvanos egreT wodebuli `mosmenebis kanoni~ – faruli miyuradeba, rac pirdapir adamianebis uflebebis dacvas ewinaaRmdegeba da, Sesabamisad, 12-punqtian rekomendaciebsac. piradad me jerjerobiT vercerTi win gadadgmuli nabiji, iniciativa ver davinaxe 12 punqtidan romelimes SesrulebisTvis. xbos, goWebis da sxva cxovelebis uflebebze zrunva, ra Tqma unda, kargia, magram rodesac saxelmwifoSi seriozuli safrTxis winaSea demokratiuli Rirebulebebi da am problemebis gamo dRiTi dRe eqmneba safrTxe qveynis evropul momavals, Tvalebi unda gaaxilo da prioritetebi gadaanawilo.
– am bolo dros mmarTveli gundis yofili wevrebi (xundaZe, subari, yavelaSvili) xSirad antidasavlur gancxadebebs akeTeben, razec saubroben ara mxolod opozicionerebi, aramed eqspertebic (xuxaSvili). ramdenad saxifaToa msgavsi antidasavluri gancxadebebi (TiTqos dasavleTs saqarTvelos omSi CaTreva surs)?
– `dasavleTs saqarTvelos omSi CaTreva surs~ aris pirdapir prorusuli narativi da yoveli individi, vinc am miTs mihyveba, akeTebs rusul saqmes saqarTvelos teritoriaze! uSualod CemTvis da darwmunebuli var, yoveli saRad moazrovne adamianisTvis zemoxsenebulni ufunqcio politikuri manekenebi arian, magram dezinformacia, romlis gavrcelebasac isini sazogadoebaSi cdiloben, sakmaod didi safrTxis Semcvelia da Tu qarTvelma xalxma am mimarTulebiT droulad ar moaxdina reagireba, Sedegi sakmaod mZime iqneba.
– eqspertebi arc opozicias indoben. maTi TqmiT, opoziciuri speqtri mosaxleobas ver uCvenebs qveynis ganviTarebis konkretul gegmas. Tqveni partia am mxriv ramdenad Tanmimdevrulia?
– politikurma gundma `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ politikur asparezze gamosvlisTanave sazogadoebas warudgina gegma yvela im mimarTulebiT, sadac saxelmwifo kriziss ganicdis. saubari maqvs marSalis gegmaze, romelic ar aris arc zRapari da arc sadRegrZelo. marSalis gegma Tavidan bolomde imis formulaa, Tu rogor unda daiZras saxelmwifo progresuli gziT. Cven maqsimalurad SevecadeT da dRemde vcdilobT, sazogadoebamde TiToeuli sakiTxi sakmaod martivi eniT mivitanoT, davarwmunoT mis efeqturobaSi, ramdenad realuria is regionaluri TvalsazrisiTac.
– eqspertebi imasac amboben, rom Tu opoziciis ZiriTadi nawili saarCevnod mZlavr blokad ar gaerTiandeba, gauWirdeba momaval arCevnebSi gamarjveba. . . `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ Tu apirebs romelime partiasTan gaerTianebas?
– `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebze iyo erT-erTi pirveli iniciatori, rom `qarTuli ocnebis~ didZal da burusiT mocul resursebs opozicia erTianad dapirispireboda. erTiani opoziciuri Zalebis demonstrireba pirvelad swored baTumSi moxda da Sedegic yvelam dainaxa – baTumma airCia opozicia sakrebuloSi da meradac airCia adamiani opoziciidan, miuxedavad uamravi sibinZurisa, rac arCevnebis procesSi xdeboda, mainc es mocemuloba iyo, sanam mmarTvelma Zalam bolos xelovnurad ar Secvala is. ase rom, TiTqmis darwmunebuli var, opozicia isev erTiani ZalebiT Seecdeba am qveynis momavlisTvis brZolas. ra Tqma unda, sakuTari identoba yvela politikur gunds SeunarCundeba, magram prioritetuli mainc eris interesebis dacva iqneba.
– mmarTveli gundis erT-erTma liderma irakli kobaxiZem ganacxada, rom momavli arCevnebi eleqtronuli wesiT Catardeba, Tumca ceskos paritetul dakompleqtebaze ar usaubria, am mimarTebiT opozicia ramdenad erTiania?
– arCevnebis procesi im formulirebiTa da struqturiT, romliTac aqamde tardeboda, mmarTvel Zalas yovelTvis xelsayrel poziciaSi amyofebda. maTTvis arsebobda is fufuneba (Tu ar Seicvala, kvlav iarsebebs), rom gamoeyenebinaT nebismieri binZuri meTodi (fuli, Savi samyaro, fsevdokomisiis wevrebi, karuseli, mosyidva, daSineba da a.S.) da Semdgom amaze pasuxi ar egoT. arCevnebis eleqtronuli (nawilobriv) formatiT Catareba da ceskos paritetulad dakompleqteba metwilad aRmofxvris im xinjebs da `triukebis~ realizebis SesaZleblobas, rasac aqamde mmarTveli partia akeTebda. CvenTvis naTelia, rom sazogadoebis umravlesobas surs cvlilebebi da arsebuli realobis Secvla. am moTxovnebs `qarTuli ocneba~ ver akmayofilebs, Sesabamisad, is unda CamoSordes marTvis sadaveebs. opozicia erTiania im azris irgvliv, rom sazogadoebis umravlesobis neba arCevnebSi binZuri meTodebis gamoyenebiTa da `gamarjvebiT~ ar unda daiCrdilos. es nihilizms kidev ufro masStaburad gazrdis mosaxleobaSi da politikur krizisamde ki ara, kolafsamde mivalT.
– aranakleb mniSvnelovan garemoebaze msurs Tqveni yuradRebis gamaxvileba. adgilobrivma arCevnebma cxadyo, rom mosaxleoba indiferentulia, ras akeTebs Tundac Tqveni partia, rom pasiuri amomrCevlis xma ar daikargos?
– `lelos~ gundis wevrebi dafuZnebis dRidan dRemde vcdilobT, davarwmunoT sazogadoeba, rom Tu gvsurs demokratiuli saxelmwifos Seqmna, Tu gvsurs, rom kvlav gavidgaT evropuli fesvebi, Tu gvsurs ganviTareba, progresi, socialur-ekonomikuri da politikuri krizisisgan Tavis daRweva, amisTvis pirveli nabiji arCevnebze misvla da arCevanis gakeTebaa. yovelgvari paTetikisa da butaforiulobis gareSe unda aRiqvas TiToeulma moqalaqem, rom TiToeulis xma umniSvnelovanesia, TiTo dadebuli aguria raRac uzarmazaris SenebaSi, arsebuli realobis SecvlisTvis da momavlisTvis.
– dabolos, araxalia, rom Cveni qveyana didadaa damokidebuli dasavleTis mxardaWeraze, ra gavlena eqneba ukrainis oms saqarTvelos momavalze?
– dasavleTis mxardaWera sakmaod didi berketia saqarTvelosTvis Cveni ganviTarebis gzaze, dasavleTis mxardaWera, miniSnebebi, rekomendaciebi Tu konkretuli gegmebi aris formula saqarTvelos evrointegraciisa. dasavleTis mxardaWeras ramdenad didi Zala da mniSvneloba aqvs, amas naTlad ukrainis magaliTzec vxedavT. ukraina civilizebuli samyaros saxeliTa da dasavleTis mxardaWeriT ebrZvis, amarcxebs borotebas da zemoxsenebuli samyaros pirvel mters. darwmunebuli var imaSi, rom Cemi prognozi gamarTldeba da ruseTis federacia am umsxvilesi da masStaburi teroristuli aqtis Sedegebs moimkis (sxvas verafers davarqmev). amJamindeli situaciiT egeTi piric uCans. am faqts saqarTvelos momavalze, ra Tqma unda, dadebiTi gavlena eqneba. istoriulad, yoveli imperia mtvrad iqca. ruseTis imperiis mtvrad qceva saqarTveloSi prorusizmTan brZolaSi gamarjvebas niSnavs!.
