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sulxan-saba orbelianis universitetis warmatebulma studentma, baTumelma TamTa jayelma axlaxan daasrula gacvliTi programiT swavla lumsas (romi) universitetSi. am programaSi monawileobam igi ufro mizanmimarTuli gaxada, gaaZliera misi sulieri potenciali. . . rogori iyo ucxoeTSi yofnis erTi weli, ra STabeWdilebebiT daubrunda mSobliur mxares, amis Sesaxeb interviudan SeityobT
– mogviyeviT rogor swavlobdiT, rogor cxovrobdiT lumsas universitetSi?
– simarTle giTxraT, realobam molodins gadaaWarba. swavlis periodSi vcxovrobdi romSi, ulamazes, maradiul qalaqSi. arqiteqtura, xalxi, kulinaria, kultura, istoria yvelaferi saucxooa. lumsas universiteti erT-erTi saukeTesoa romSi, studentebze maqsimalurad morgebuli. xalxic Tbili da yuradRebiania, saukeTeso mogonebebi damigrovda da didi siamovnebiT wavidodi isev.
– Tqven garda, sxva qarTvelic Tu swavlobda am universitetSi, ZiriTadad romeli qveynis warmomadgenlebi Warbobdnen?
– sulxan-saba orbelianis universitetidan, romlis uaRresad madlieri var, 4 studenti viyaviT. cxadia, sxva universitetebSic swavloben qarTvelebi. lumsaSi, ZiriTadad, ungreli da espaneli studentebi arian, sxvaTa Soris, ukraineli kurselebic gvyavda.
– lumsas universitetis damTavrebam ra Secvala Sens cxovrebaSi, mentalitetSi?
– romSi cxovrebis Semdeg gavxdi ufro laRi, bednieri, davafase yoveli wami. iq Zalian bednieri, pozitiuri xalxi cxovrobs, yvelafris miuxedavad, cdiloben isiamovnon yoveli wamiT da datkbnen cxovrebiT. La Dolce Vita (tkbili cxovreba) da Dolce Far niente (arafris keTebis sitkbo) maTi devizia.
– Tu qarTul da italiur saswavlo procesebs SevadarebT, rogori iqneba suraTi?
– italiaSi ar gvqonda yovelkvireuli gamokiTxvebi, Sualeduri gamocdebi, gvitardeboda leqciebi da iyo mxolod finaluri Sefaseba. ZiriTadad, gvaswavlidnen britaneTidan, germaniidan da
sxva qveynebidan mowveuli leqtorebi. qarTuli ganaTlebis sistema bevrad ufro siRrmiseuli da mkacria. me piradad Zalian momwons Cemi sulxan-saba orbelianis universiteti, romelic maqsimalurad aris studentis interesebze morgebuli, gvaZlevs siRrmiseul codnas. ZiriTadad, gvyavs praqtikosi leqtorebi, ris safuZvelzec swavla mimdinareobs datvirTul da aqtiur reJimSi. gacvliTi programebic mravlad aris. bednieri var, rom am universitetis studenti mqvia da aq swavla Cemi erT-erTi saukeTeso gadawyvetilebaa.
– italielebze zemoTac mainc isaubre, magram minda gkiTxo, maTi cxovrebis wesze, romzec, ra Tqma unda, maradiuli qalaqi Seni TvaliT. . .
– italiaze da italielebze saubriT arasdros daviRlebi, Cemze waruSleli kvali datoves. miyvars italia da iqauri xalxi, Tavi ucxod arasdros migrZnia. arian megobrulebi, mxiarulebi, yuradRebianebi, uzomod energiulebi. romi, marTlac, maradiuli qalaqia. misi ulamazesi arqiteqturiT gaocebas sazRvari ara aqvs. yoveldRiurad raRac axlis aRmoCenaSi viyaviT. italiuri kulinariac gamorCeulia. Zalian menatreba iqauri atmosfero, cxovrebis stili.
– sulxan-saba orbelianis universitetis warmatebuli studenti xarT, CvenTan wina interviuSi isaubreT Tqvens miznebze maT asrulebasTan axlos xarT?
– yoveli gadadgmuli nabiji miznebis miRwevasTan maaxloebs, raSic maqsimalurad miwyobs xels sulxan-saba orbelianis universiteti. nebismier abiturients Tu students Tamamad da daufiqreblad vurCev, rom Caabaron am universitetSi, sadac studentebi miiReben saukeTeso ganaTlebas. yoveldRiurad gvemateba gacvliTi programebi da nebismier mondomebul students aqvs SesaZlebloba, gamoscados ucxoeTSi swavlis siamovneba.
– rogoria italieli studentebis da saerTod italielebis damokidebuleba ukrainisadmi?
– simarTle giTxraT, iq imdenad ar igrZnoboda omis msvlelobis simwvave. marTalia, ganicdidnen, Tumca ara ise, rogorc Tundac saqarTveloSi. es, ra Tqma unda, istoriis konteqstidanac gamomdinareobs. sxvaTa Soris, romSi qarTveli emigrantebi ufro awyobdnen msvlelobebs omis winaaRmdeg, vidre adgilobrivebi. aseve qarTvelma emigrantebma moagroves pirveladi daxmarebis nivTebi, Tanxa da gaagzavnes ukrainaSi. kolizeumi enTo ukrainis ferebSi, aseve – metroc. rogorc ukve aRvniSne, ukraineli kurselebic gvyavda da maqsimalur mxardaWeras vagrZnobinebdiT mTeli kursi.
– amboben, rom yoveli kargi wignis wakiTxvis Semdeg ukeTesdebi da Wkvianebi vxvdebiT, Tqvenc ase fiqrobT?
– wignis ara mxolod wakiTxva, aramed gagebaa mniSvnelovani. vfiqrob, rom wigni gexmareba raRacebis ukeT gaazrebasa da gadafasebaSi. CemTvis, magaliTad, cneba kargi wigni ar arsebobs. SeiZleba raRac wigni CemTvis iyos saintereso, Tumca sxvisTvis arafris momcemi, es damokidebulia konkretulad pirovnebis interesebsa da aRqmaze. yvela individualurebi varT da sxvadasxvagvarad vigebT wignis Sinaarss.
– adamiani rom bednieri iyos, rogor fiqrobT, ra aris amisTvis aucilebeli, xarT bednieri?
– Cemi azriT, bedniereba individualuria da ase, zogadad, ver davasaxeleb bednierebis kriteriums, yvelas aqvs Tavisi bednierebis sazomi. me Tamamad SemiZlia vTqva, rom bednieri var, irgvliv myavs sayvareli adamianebi, maqvs miznebi, vSromob, ar vtkepni erT adgils, ar vcurav dinebis mimarTulebiT, yoveli dRe raRac axlis dasawyisia, ar vuSindebi sirTuleebs, miyvars cxovreba da vcdilob maqsimaluri miviRo misgan.
– Semdgari, realizebuli pirovneba rogor gesaxebaT, ra aris pirovnuli siZlieris barometri?
– sirTuleebis gareSe ar arsebobs cxovreba, unda iyo Zlieri, ar SeuSinde cxovrebiseul gamowvevebs. aucileblad unda gqondes mizani, riskenac iswrafvi da mzad unda iyo yvela winaRobis gadasalaxavad.
– miTxari, vin aris Seni megobari da getyvi vin xar Sen. am SekiTxviT rom mogmarToT, rogor upasuxebT?
– gadaWriT verc am SemTxvevaSi vityvi, rom 100%-iani WeSmaritebaa. rTulia megobrebiT imsjelo adamianis pirovnebaze. SeiZleba Cems megobarSi me vxedavde da vafasebde imas, rac sxvisTvis SeumCneveli an umniSvneloa.
– ra Tqma unda, gverds ver avuvliT xviCa kvaracxelias, romelic neapolelTa kerpi gaxda. . . italielebi rogor moixsenieben mas, Tqven Tu xarT fexburTis moyvaruli?
– mogexsenebaT, rom italiaSi fexburTis kultura umaRles donezea, saucxoo gulSematkivroba axasiaTebT. rodesac `roma~ TamaSobda, qalaqSi muxti iwevda, yvela magas ganixilavda. mogebis Tu wagebis miuxedavad qalaqi zeimobda. stadionTan axlos cxovrebis bedniereba mqonda da TamaSebis Semdeg, gulSematkivrebi rom mxiarulobdnen da gamarjvebas zeimobdnen, me baTumis `dinamos~ TamaSebi maxsendeboda. `piratebis~ msgavsad, aqauri gulSematkivrebic xarobdnen da zeimobdnen, saucxoo sanaxaoba da atmosfero iyo, ramac Cemze waruSleli STabeWdileba datova. aqamde Tu saqarTvelo mxolod amerikis Stati an ruseTis saqarTvelo egonaT, ukve saqarTvelos xsenebaze italiis nebismier wertilSi, da ara mxolod neapolSi, ukve kvaracxelias saqarTvelo varT. yvela masze laparakobs da mas ganixilaven. udavod, uniWieresi fexburTelia.
– dabolos, xvalindeli dRe. . . rogor gesaxeba da rogori ginda gaTendes dila, romelsac eli?
– simarTle giTxraT, ar miyvars warsulze fiqri da momavlis dagegmva, vcxovrob dRevandeli dRiT da vcdilob yoveli dRidan miviRo maqsimumi.
