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arian adamianebi, romlebic gansakuTrebiT amSveneben qalaqs. swored aseTia yvelasaTvis sayvareli poeti bela qeburia. Tu erTxel gaicani, arasdros dagaviwydeba misi xma, Tvalebi, emociuri saubari. romelsac usmen, grZnob, momnusxveli energetika rogor Semodis SenSi, xvdebi, rom aseTi STabeWdilebis moxdena mxolod im adamianebs SeuZliaT, romlebic guliT samyarosxela siyvaruls daatareben. es interviu kidev ufro axlos gagacnobT poets, mis fiqrebs, sixaruls, sevdasa da survilebs:
– moxvediT imisaTvis rom. . .
– mosvla vin mkiTxa, magram radgan movedi, albaT imitom, rom miyvardes, vwero da adamianebs veimedebode.
– gameoreba rom SeiZlebodes. . .
– Tu sicocxles gulisxmobT, aseT iluziebSi aRar var da arc vinatreb, radgan sawyisi yovelTvis sasrulTanaa dakavSirebuli da tkivils verafriT aicden, amitom maradiulobis formati mirCevnia.
– yvelaze metad genatrebaT. . .
– 1989 wlis 9 aprils rom iyo, qarTvelTa iseTi erTianoba da imierSi gadasaxlebuli Zvirfasi adamianebi.
– mogoneba, romelic sul gdevT. . .
– vcdilob, warsulze ar vifiqro, imdeni lamazi vinme waiyvana da iseTi grZnobebi waritaca, yelSi wuxili mawveba da maxrCobs, pandemiis periodma – gansakuTrebiT. ise, bevri mogonebaa Cems arsenalSi, sasiamovnoc da usiamovnoc. mkiTxvels interviu mosawyenad rom ar moeCvenos, bavSvobis erT cocxal kadrs gavixseneb. oTxi an xuTi wlisa viqnebodi, roca es ambavi moxda. bundovnad maxsovs, dedas merec araerTxel aqvs siciliT monayoli. Cvens bavSvobaSi specialuri xelsabanebi iyo – niJara da marmarilos kedelze damagrebuli sarke da `umivalniki~. niJaris qvemoT karada iyo, sadac bavSvebi damalobanas TamaSisas vimalebodiT xolme. mere centralizebuli wylis gayvanasTan erTad, es xelsabanebi gareT gaabrZanes. etyoba, dainesta da xis ficarze damagrebuli lursmnebi moeSva. erT dRes bavSvebma wyali CavasxiT xelsabanSi, wuwaoba daviwyeT. Cemi Zma da deidaSvili erTmaneTs aswrebdnen, undodaT, rac SeiZleba meti wyali moegrovebinaT peSvebSi da am ZiZgilaobaSi xraxnebic mTlad moeSva da es marmarilos Txeli fila gadmoyiravda. aSkara xifaTs orive marmarilos win dakidulma sarakuno vedrom da instiqturad xelebis Tavze afarebam gadaarCina. wyliT oms `usisxlod~ mainc ver gadaurCnen, TiTo nakeris dadeba da Tavis magrad Sexveva mouwiaT. bevri modioda maT sanaxavad, mohqondaT tkbileuli, xili. . . romelic mec ar damklebia, magram maT meti yuradReba ergoT da tirili damiwyia: Tavi mec SemixvieT-meTqi. ras izamdnen, Semixvies. . . da vsxedvarT samiveni TuTis xis qveS gaSlil fardagze da raRaciT verTobiT. gamvlel-gamovleli gaocebuli gviyurebs, am bavSvebs vin daeria, romel omSi iyvneno. . . gansakuTrebiT dainteresebulni saqmis namdvil arss roca gaigebdnen, icinodnen: – asea, WirSic da lxinSic erTad unda iyoTo!
– bednieri xarT, roca. . .
– ojaxis yvela wevri da axlobeli janmrTelad da kargad meguleba. cxovreba bednierebis wamebs gvCuqnis, magram imasac afermkrTalebs Cveni epoqis politikuri Tu bunebrivi kataklizmebi. bedniereba moxelTebul, cicinaTelasaviT gaelvebul sixarulSia. ise ki. . . gacilebiT bednieri viqnebi, roca es areul-dareuli samyaro dawynardeba da amdeni mZafri gamowvevis winaSe aRar viqnebiT.
– rogori feri aqvs siyvaruls. . .
– im adamianTa gulisa da grZnobis ferTa speqtri, visac estumreba. anu aris iseTi, rogoric adamiania – romantikuli, daxvewili, uxeSi Tu primitiuli. . . ra TvalebiTac uyurebs samyaros, imis adekvaturia. rom gekiTxa, vis hgavs siyvarulio, gipasuxebdi: – pirvelad da samudamod – dedas. . . mere imas, visac gulis kars vuRebT da Cvens saguleSi ori gulis xma erTimeoris ritmze ewyoba. . . da ganuzomlad didi bednierebaa, Tu es xma sicocxlis bolomde unisonSi grZeldeba.
– vnanob. . .
– ucxo enebi rom ar viswavle, marTalia, mogzauroba ar maklia, magram ufro bevrs da gabedulad vimogzaurebdi. zogjer sizarmacis, umetesad udroobis gamo, bevri ram samomavlod gadavde. is droc da saqmec ukve warsulad iqca. dRes rac unda moaswro, imis dro xval aRaraa, xvales misi sakeTebel-sadardo moaqvs. amitom axla ufro kargad mesmis laTinelTa gamoTqmis – mniSvneloba.
– leqsi, romelic ggavT. . .
– mgoni yvela Cemi leqsi mgavs, zogi sustad, magram umetesoba zustad. es ki gansakuTrebiT. . .
vin var. . .
vin var?
mzis erTi sxivi var,
ciskarTan erTad avdgebi,
wvimas RvTis madlad vRebulob,
qarebs megobrad davyvebi,
zogjer zRvis mecxre talRa var,
TeTrad gaSlili afrebiT,
babuawveras sunTqva var,
momiqroleb da. . . gavqrebi. . .
samSoblos cremlis wveTi var,
misTvis sicocxlis gamRebi,
raca var, ai, esa var,
arc meti da arc naklebi.
– weris procesi hgavs. . .
– astralSi gasvlas. Tu movida da wera daviwye, Cem irgvliv samyaro rom ingreodes, ver gavigoneb.
– rom ar yofiliyaviT poeti, iqnebodiT. . .
– Tavadac ar vici! adre SemeZlo aTasi ram damegulebina Cemad. axla aRar vici, realurad ra minda. ra Rirda da ra – ara, radgan viwrod da lokalurad drois, saqmis da urTierTobebis gazomvas gadaveCvie. adre Tvis, wlis, uaxloesi momavlis dagegmva-ganxorcielebaze vzrunavdi. pandemiis mere, zogadad, adamianis arsebobasa da mis mniSvnelobaze daviwye fiqri. amitom mikvirs ambiciuri adamianebis, yvelafers ise rom ebRauWebian, TiTqos maradiulni iyvnen. netav, maTi arsebobis bolo wuTebis fiqrebi macodina. . .
– mTavari sityva…
– da sityva iyo RmerTi da RmerTi sityvis Tana!
– qaloba aris. . .
– movaleobaTa kaskadi da mudmivi mtkiceba, rom Sen raRacas warmoadgen.
– aTbobs dedamiwas. . .
– sayvarel adamianTa arseboba, maT gareSe azri, siTbo da sinaTle arafers eqneboda.
– simRera, romelsac yvelaze xSirad RiRinebT. . .
– dedaCemi fandurze ukravda da araCveulebrivad mReroda. 1957 wels folkloris saxalxo daTvalierebaze gundTan erTad laureatic gamxdara. babuaCemi, platon narouSvili cnobili momRerali yofila. mTeli ojaxi, Cemi svani bebo maTi xuTi Svilis CaTvliT – SeRamebulze, zamTrobiT SuacecxlTan an buxarTan, wlis danarCen dros ki, odis aivanze dasxdebodnen, gadaxedavdnen mTvaris Suqze kavkasionis mdumared mdgari TeTrquda mwvervalebiT nakveb, kalmaxiviT vercxlisfrad akiafebul texurs da simReras iwyebdnen. . . Tan erTad da SeTanxmebulad saqmesac akeTebdnen, siminds fSvnidnen, lobios arCevdnen, nigozs da Txils texdnen, saCire xurmas Tlidnen. . . maT simReras mTeli sofeli eloda. – gare saqmeebs swrafad moviTavebdiT, gadaZaxil-gadmoZaxili wydeboda, xelsaqmes viwyebdiT da Cvenc RiRin-RiRiniT avyvebodiT xolmeo! – miyvebodnen mezoblebi. dedas gansakuTrebiT uyvarda lado asaTianis `salaRobo~, axlac Camesmis yurSi fandurisa da dedaCemis tkbili xmebi. mec vmReri, magram `musikaluri mexsiereba~ ar myofnis da erT xmaze darCena miWirs, romelic ufro momewoneba – is mimizidavs da `mivyvebi~. ase rom. . . cxovrebaSi ki var saimedo, magram simReraSi SeiZleba `dagaRalatoT~. . .
– adamiani sxva saukunidan, visTan erTadac dalevdiT finjan yavas da isaubrebdiT bevrs. . .
– amelia erhartTan (aq etyoba besarion qeburias mfrinavis geni meZaxis) da mari kiurisTan.
– cxovreba hgavs. . .
– sixarulTa da wuxilTa erT did krialosans, romelic erT dRes uceb wydeba da samudamod daifanteba an… optimistur notze Tu vityviT – Seni ganvlili gza, bolomde daxarjvis SemTxvevaSi, maradisobis avtografadac SegiZlia datovo.
– adamiani, adamianisTvis. . .
– imedicaa da dilemac. . . ufro ki isaa, radac Tavi warmoudgenia.
– dauviwyari STabeWdileba. . .
– Svilebisa da wignebis dabadeba.
– wigni, romelSic gadaxvidodiT sacxovreblad. . .
– aseT wigns Tavad wer, sxvisi cxovrebiT ver icxovreb!
– qalbatonebs vetyodi, rom. . .
– Tu moindomeben – samyaros Secvlas SeZleben. ori aTeuli wliT adre, ramdenime Cemebr mofiqrali da uRalato adamiani rom mepova (anu ideis bolomde erTguli), samyaros marTla Sevcvlidi.
– Zalian msurs. . .
– ise wavide amqveynidan, rom erTian, Zlier, Rirseul qarTul saxelmwifos moveswro.
– inspiraciis wyaro. . .
– wams da ganwyobas gaaCnia, yofila foTlidan Camovardnili wveTis msxvrevis xma gamigonia, magram isec yofila, raRac faqtisa Tu movlenisTvis asobiT poets leqsi miuZRvnia, Cems STagonebas ki Tavi Seukavebia. amitom iSviaTad vwer, magram Tu daiwyo, erTbaSad modis 10, 15 an 20 leqsi. mere Cerdeba da isev igrovebs emociur naperwklebs momaval `afeTqebamde~.
– is, rac jer arvisTvis giTqvamT. . .
– ukve vfiqrob imaze, iqiT. . .ra aris.
saocari Ramea,
Sors varskvlavi cimcimebs,
suls moaklda wuxili,
sxeuls – xorcis simZime. . .
maradiul SoreTis,
ar maSinebs sicive.
– baTumi TqvenTvis. . .
– `Cemi~ qalaqia, aTjer rom davibado, sacxovreblad sul mas avirCevdi.
– minda, wlebis Semdeg Cemze Tqvan. . .
– isev mSvenivrad gamoiyureba, aseT ra saidumlos flobs? me ki vupasuxeb – mTeli saidumlo siyvarulSia. . . yovel adamians Turme misi muStis xela guli aqvs, me ki am guls uaryofiTi grZnobebis, fiqrebisa da azrebisTvis ver gavimeteb. amitom daberebas ar vapireb.
– vtiri, roca. . .
– omis saSinelebebs vuyureb. Tumca am bolos sikeTis, siTbosa da siyvarulis gamovlinebebzec metireba.
– ver vpatiob. . .
– bolos mainc vpatiob!
– yovlisSemZle rom iyoT. . .
– adamianebs agresiisa da siZulvilis matarebel genebs amovaclidi.
– gaiSviaTda…
– gulwrfeloba, uangaroba, samSoblos winaSe rom yvelani movaleni varT, imis gancda da gageba. gaiSviaTda siyvarulis WeSmariti arsi, anu sulis mdgomareoba, sareclis donemde daiyvana dRevandelobam. kidev, mgoni kenedis sityvebia `sanam TiToeuli Cvengani qveyanas ar miscems imas, risi gaRebac yvela Cvenganis valia, ara Tu Cven, Cveni SvilTaSvilebic ver miiReben imas, rasac Cven Cveni qveynidan veliT~. . . am Temis bolomde gaSla TqvenTvis momindia..
– Seucvleli fiqri. . . survili. . . ocneba. . .
– samSoblo, samSoblo, samSoblo!
– dabolos. . .
– am Cems ZarRvebSi sisxlis
farCaTa,
mSfoTvari talRis Cqari Cqeria,
romelic ukve dausxlta majas
da poeziis zRvas Seeria. . .