,,როგორ მივუტევებთ სხვას, როცა თავი ანგელოზი გვგონია?!”
es weli warmatebuli aRmoCnda poet lia gigitaSvilisTvis (Tamareli), igi mweralTa, xelovanTa da sazogado moRvaweTa saerTaSoriso akademia `gulanis~ wevrad airCies da saqarTvelos mweralTa SemoqmedebiTi kavSiris wevradac miiRes. qalbatonma liam jer kidev 2019 wels gaimarjva `qarTuli elitis – wlis poetis~ nominaciaSi da gaisad mkiTxvels Tavisi leqsebis meoTxe wigns SesTavazebs. . . manamde ki qarTul mediasivrceSi mis leqsebsa da publicistur werilebs dainteresebuli mkiTxveli yuradRebiT ecnoba, ris erT dasturad es interviuc SegiZliaT miiCnioT.
– mimdinare cvlilebebis fonze muSaobis stili da meTodebic icvleba, fexs uwyobT siaxleebs?
– poeziasTan 15 wlis asakidan vmegobrob. erT-erTi pirveli leqsis bolo strofi ase gamoiyureba:
`muza kankalebs, qreba sanTeli,
Tavi daxara morcxvma mimozam.
oh, Cemo etlo, nuTu ar ici,
rom Saravandeds wlebi gvimosavs!~.
arasdros mifiqria muSaobis raime gansakuTrebul meTodebsa da stilze. vwer, rogorc misi aRmatebuleba muza mkarnaxobs. Zalian ar momwons dRevandeli `leqsTamwerebis~ (da ara poetebis) muzasTan damokidebuleba. poezia RvTiT boZebuli saCuqaria da mas mofrTxileba sWirdeba. CemTvis muza mudam sakraluri mocemulobaa. muza poetis gulia:
`poetis guls gafrTxileba sWirdeba,
poetebi leqsiT avadmyofoben,
Zveli sityva – axaliviT brwyindeba
oqrosaviT Senaxuli strofebiT~.
– ra aris is umTavresi parametri, romelsac cxovrebaSi mudam unda vicavdeT?
– keTilsindisiereba – adamianebTan imgvari damokidebuleba, rogorsac CvenTvis visurvebdiT. umTavresia, agreTve:
`ar uRalato Sens rwmenas,
Tund bolo wuTebs iTvlide,
Rors nu miuyri margalits,
ZaRls nu miugdeb siwmindes!~.
– rogor SevcvaloT Cveni cxovreba, Tavi bednierad rom vigrZnoT?
– bednierebis recepti rom ar arsebobs, yvelam viciT. Cemi gamocdilebiT, bednierebas Sors Zebna ar sWirdeba – is mudam CvenTan da wvrilman detalebSia. yoveldRe erTi adamiani mainc Tu gaaxare, es ukve bednierebaa. warmoidgineT, yoveldRiurad gaxarebuli adamiani (ar aqvs mniSvneloba, sityviT iqneba, Tu saqmiT) yoveldRiuri dalocvaa samyarosgan, romelic pozitiuri ganwyobebiT gpasuxobs.
– sityva saqmiT fasobs, ara? da mainc, xSirad adamianebi lamazi sityviT ixiblebian da mere imedi ucruvdebaT.
– ufalma sityviT Seqmna samyaro da adamianebi. radganac uflis xatebi da msgavsebi varT, CvenSi Cado sityvis Zala. yvela sityvas Tavisi energetika aqvs: keTils – manaTobeli, borots – bneli, damangreveli, amitom sityvasTan sifrTxilea saWiro: unda davfiqrdeT, ras vambobT, sanam wamovisvriT. rodesac adamiani carieli, lamazi sityvebiT gepirfereba, guls Tu usmen, tyuils uceb xvdebi da arc moixiblebi.
– ukeTurTa miteveba xvedria rCeulTao – ase gvaswavlian brZenni, magram dRes adamians miteveba uWirs yvelaze metad. mizezi sad veZioT?
– mizezi adamianebSi ampartavnebis momZlavrebaa sakuTari codvebis SeumCnevlobaSi. rogor mivutevebT sxvebs, roca Tavi angelozi gvgonia, vfiqrobT, rom yvelaferSi marTlebi varT da danarCenebi CvenTan tyuian.
– 21-e saukune teqnologiuri miRwevebis xanaa, Cans, rom zeteqnikuri realoba da adamianis eTika ver Tavsdeba, romelic kvlav barbarosiviT iqceva, omobs. . . win ratom ver vixedebiT?
– urwmunoeba, uRmerToba adamians win gaxedvis unars ukargavs. omebi didZali kapitalis dagrovebis wyaro iyo yovelTvis da asec grZeldeba binZuri politikis gaukuRmarTebul speqtrSi. . . arada, spetaki politika am samyaroSi sanTliTaa saZebari.
– religia Cveni gaRviZebis mxolod pozitiur mcdelobad rCeba, eklesiebsa da meCeTebSi ki loculoben, magram gareT kvlav borotad iqcevian. . . riT axsniT CvenSi farisevelTa simravles?
– axsna imaSia, rom borots ar sZinavs, sadac meti siwmindea, swored iq cdilobs RvarZlis CaTesvas. dRes bevri boroti dadis eklesiaSi – WeSmarit morwmuneebTan erTad. ra mniSvneloba aqvs, sad ilocebs boroti?! Tu mis gulSi sinaTlis natamali araa, morwmuned ver gadaiqceva!
– tradicia da dRevandeloba ramdenad SeTavsebadia? erovnuli cnobierebis gasaRrmaveblad upirates sazrunavad ra gesaxebaT?
– dRes upirates sazrunavad axalgazrdebSi qarTuli enis safuZvliani swavleba, misi siwmindis dacvisken mowodeba, qarTuli tradiciebis (dRes ase damaxinjebulis) Tavdapirveli mniSvnelobis axsna-ganmarteba, CvenSi erovnuli Rirsebis gaRviveba mesaxeba, sxvagvarad ver warmomidgenia.
`. . .ra ena gvaqvs saocari,
ra martivi, ra rTuli,
savse RvTiur gamocaniT,
suliwmindiT qarTuliT.
mowameTas saswauli
mewamuli feria,
wyal-wiTelas wiTel melniT
ai-ia weria!. .~.
– ojaxi eris sarkea, misi TviTmyofadobis safuZveli. misi simtkicisTvis ra aris saWiro Cvens sinamdvileSi?
– rac unda banalurad JRerdes, umTavresi siyvarulia, rac yvela warmatebis sawindaria ojaxSic da sazogadoebaSic. ojaxuri harmoniisTvis umniSvnelovanesia, ra Tqma unda, ojaxis wevrebis dasaqmeba bazris moTxovnebis Sesabamisi xelfasiT. dRes bevr axalgazrdas eSinia ojaxis Seqmna, radgan ar gaaCnia saWiro ekonomikuri resursi.
– Tqveni xvalindeli dRe – rogor gesaxebaT is, ris gakeTebas apirebT misi ukeTesobisTvis?
– bavSvobidan pozitiuri adamiani var da momavals imedis TvaliT vucqer. Cem garSemo imdeni niWieri, gonieri da saRi azrovnebis axalgazrdaa, rogor SeiZleba, sasikeTo cvlilebebis imedi ar gvqondes. bevr rames vapireb: umTavresad, sakuTar Tavze muSaobis gagrZelebas, danarCens dro ityvis.
– fiqrobT, rom yoveli dila RvTis saCuqaria? da Tu asea, madlierebas rogor gamoxatavT?
– diax, yoveli gaTenebuli dila RvTis didi wyalobaa. madlobas vwirav ufals yoveli dRisTvis, yoveli wuTisTvis! Cemi erTi leqsis dasasruli aseTia:
`momapyari, zeciero,
yuri yovlis msmeni,
aZliere CemSi marad
siyvarulis seni,
momiteve siTamame,
rom es saqme vqmeni
da leqsebad gamovxate
sidiade Seni!~.
– kiTxva, romelsac xSirad usvamT sakuTar Tavs. . . da ras pasuxobT?
– rogori deda, diasaxlisi, meuRle da megobari xar, lia? am kiTxvas xSirad vusvam sakuTar Tavs da vpasuxob ise, rogoric mocemul momentSi Cem Sesaxeb uprianad mimaCnia.
