,,ნებისმიერი გზავნილი სულიდან და სულისკენ უნდა იყოს მიმართული”
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irine goCaSvili im sanaqebo mTargmnelebis ricxvSia, TavianTi profesionalizmiT rom gamoirCevian. gansakuTrebiT aRsaniSnavia, rom man siyvaruliTa da ostatobiT Targmna ucxoel poetTa is leqsebi, romlebSic isini saqarTvelosadmi siyvaruls gamoxatavdnen
qalbatoni irine mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamorCeuli pirovnebaa, wers leqsebs, ukravs violinoze, eweva Jurnalistur saqmianobas, araerTi wignis redaqtoria, monawileobs literaturul RonisZiebebsa da festivalebSi, amasTan, Tavgamodebuli sazogadoebrivi saqmianobiTac ipyrobs yuradRebas. samaCablos sazRvrispira soflebs xSirad stumrobs da xelovnebis warmomadgenlebTan erTad atarebs sxvadasxva RonisZiebas. swams, rom aseTi saqmianoba keTili nebis adamianebis gzavnilia qveynis gamTlianebisaTvis, es interviuc swored am ganwyobis gamoZaxilia.
– mravalmxrivi interesebiT gamorCeuli pirovneba – ase gaxasiaTeben. irine goCaSvili – poeti, mTargmneli. . . gaagrZeleT. . .
– ubralod – adamiani.
– moskovis literaturis institutSi swavlobdiT, cnobili moazrovneebis leqciebma da poetebTan urTierTobam, cxadia, mentalurad gagamdidraT. mainc, ra iyo arsebiTi?
– is, rom sabWour mentalitetTan SedarebiT, ramdenime nabijiT winsvla gveloda moazrovne leqtorebisa da sazogadoebis wyalobiT. ase, magaliTad, sabWoTa cenzuris mier akrZaluli nabokovis Semoqmedeba da, gansakuTrebiT, `lolita~ Znelad moviZieT studentebma da wavikiTxeT, ramac gvaziara namdvili mwerlobis daniSnulebas. imdenad amaRlda Cveni cnobiereba, rom lamis ajanyeba movawyveT sabWouri agitacia-propagandis gamwevi sagnebis swavlebis winaaRmdeg. ra Tqma unda, nebismieri sagani (Tundac sabWouri) unda iswavlo, raTa gansxvaveba aRmoaCino agitacia-propagandasa da WeSmaritebas Soris, magram Cven gvsurda meti dro dagvrCenoda Rirebuli sakiTxebis Sesaswavlad da gasaanalizeblad. saTqmeli bevria, bevrsac gavixsenebdi, magram es ukve Cemi STabeWdilebebis calke wignad gamocemis Temaa.
– warmatebuli mTargmneli xarT, araerTi cnobili poeti gadmoaqarTuleT. sad daibeWdeba es Targmanebi, ra principiT arCevT avtorebs? `saocari SegrZnebaa, rodesac leqsis avtors vukiTxav Cemeul Targmans~ – mainc, vin gvyavT mxedvelobaSi?
– Targmani bevri maqvs, magram umravlesoba im poetebis leqsebisaa, romlebic saqarTvelos uZRvnidnen SesaniSnav striqonebs. gamocemuli maqvs erTaderTi wigni `gaCerebuli dro~, sadac Cemi leqsebi naklebia, Targmanebi ki meti. vfiqrob, urigo Targmanebi ar gamovida, magram maT Soris did miRwevad mimaCnia andrei bitovis romanidan `qarTuli albomis~ pirveli nawilis Targmani. aqve msurs aRvniSno, rom Tavad andrei bitovi da sxva rusi poetebi (bela axmadulina, evgeni evtuSenko, lev ozerovi, lidia grigorieva da natalia sokolovskaia) madlierebas gamoTqvamdnen, rameTu qarTveli poetebisgan qebuli iyo es Targmanebi. didi pativiscemiT msurs movixsenio m. gorkis saxelobis literaturis institutis profesori, mTargmneli, qalbatoni anaida bestavaSvili, romelmac udidesi daxmareba gamiwia, rom mTargmnelad Camovyalibebuliyavi.
– Tqveni redaqtirebuli wigniT `Sewyvetili cekva~ bevri dainteresda.
– `Sewyvetili cekva~ mTlianad Cemi saxelovani papis – vladimer xeTagurovis cxovrebasa da Semoqmedebas eZRvneba. igi legendarul ansambl suxiSvilebis gamorCeuli mocekvave, sazogado moRvawe iyo. am wignis redaqtoroba viTave, rac ise aRiqves, TiTqos vTargmne. wigni orenovania, qarTul-rusuli.
– kargi dedis gazrdili Svili cudi ver iqneba – Tqvens SemTxvevaSi es Sexeduleba savsebiT marTalia. iseTi deda rom gyavT, rogoric mzia xeTaguria, saTqmelic bevri gaqvT, xom marTalia?
– saTqmeli imdeni maqvs, rom amas furclebi ar eyofa. mokled getyviT mxolod imas da es ar aris gadaWarbeba, rom misi msgavsi mravalmxriv niWieri, msofliosadmi keTilganwyobili, saintereso azrovnebis da amasTan, mZime bedis adamiani iSviaTad minaxavs. misma uSurvelma bunebam araerTi adamiani daayena warmatebis gzaze da SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva, rom igi saqarTvelos uerTgulesi Svilia! danarCens misi wignebi amboben. . .
– Tqvens sityvebSi – agresia momZlavrda axalgazrdebSio, gulistkivili Cans. amas yvela vxedavT, gamosavals ki ver vxedavT. CvenSi agresiuli foni marTlac gazrdilia. yvelaze mouTmenel Zaladobad ras miiCnevT?
– moZaladeTa Soris yvelaze cudi mgonia is, vinc cdilobs, marTla Rirseuli da niWieri nebismieri saSualebiT CaZiros sakuTari Tavis warmosaCenad, sazogadoebaze (manipulaciis saSualebiT) gavlena moaxdinos da mentalurad iZalados masze. es politikur Zaladobaze naklebi danaSauli ar mgonia!
– fesvebs varT mowyvetilni, winaprebis sadRegrZelos vsvamT, Tumca ra viciT maT Sesaxeb? – es Tqveni kiTxvaa, romelsac axla pasuxisTvis gTavazobT.
– me am sityvebiT gamovxatav im gulistkivils, romelic exeba yvelas, visac ar ainteresebs Tavisi samSoblos warsuli da rac Seuswavlia am warsulidan, ar gauTvaliswinebia da ar gamouyenebia qveynis sasikeTod.
– rogor fiqrobT, rogorebi iqnebian momavlis adamianebi, Tundac 100 wlis Semdeg? cifruli epoqa ra gamowvevebis winaSe ayenebs adamians?
– me arc grZneuli var da arc imdenad SorsmWvreteli, rom davasuraTxato momavali. SesaZlebelia piriqiT, msoflio win wavides swored ukusvliT, anu daubrundes Rirebulebebis gadafasebas, e. w. sicocxles dedamiwaze plastmasisgan Seqmnili `adamianebi~ gaagrZeleben.
– ra aris is mTavari gzavnili, Tqveni leqsebidan rom xmiandeba da gsurT, adamianebma gaacnobieron?
– nebismieri gzavnili sulidan da sulisken unda iyos mimarTuli. weris procesSi uecrad iseTi ram SeiZleba aRmogxdes, romelic SenTvisve moulodneli da saintereso iqneba.
– tradiciebi da Cven – ra SevinarCunoT da ra ukuvagdoT, ra aferxebs Cvens zneobriv ganviTarebas?
– rTulia, magram unda SevinarCunoT siyvaruli da ukuvagdoT siZulvili.
– TqvenTvis saukeTeso wigni, romelsac ubrundebiT da sxvasac urCevT. . .
– aseTi wigni arcTu cotaa msoflio literaturaSi, magram Tu qarTuls viqoniebT mxedvelobaSi, vfiqrob, yvelam didi yuradRebiT unda waikiTxos ilia WavWavaZis `mgzavris werilebi~.
– musika samyaros universaluri enaa da Tqven mas flobT – violinoze dakvras swavlobdiT. axla ra melodias gaaJRerebdiT?
– vswavlobdi zaqaria faliaSvilis musikalur (niWierTa) aTwledSi, konservatoriis profesor sergo SaniZis klasSi. Sesrulebuli maqvs paganinis, Caikovskis, erios, baxis, mocartis, vivaldis, beThovenis, hendelis, mendelsonis nawarmoebebi. marTalia, wlebia, ar vmecadineob ise, musikoss rom sWirdeba, magram CemTvis Caplinis musika (ise, rogorc mTeli misi Semoqmedeba) mniSvnelovania da am adamianis gareSe, vfiqrob, erTi sxivi moakldeboda msoflios mzes.
– `SeCerdi, wamo~ – aseTi ganwyoba sanatrelia bevrisTvis. TqvenTvis rodis SeCerda wami?
– Cems gulSi arsebobs `SeCerebuli wami~, romelic dakavSirebulia Zalian umwikvlo, pirvel sasiyvarulo grZnobasTan da, albaT, am siyvaruls gagrZeleba imitomac ar ewera, mSvenier wamad rom darCeniliyo.
– Cemi sarkmlidan moCans. . . Tu am winadadebas simbolurad gaviazrebT, ras ityodiT, anu ras xedavT Tqveni sarkmlidan?
– Cemi sarkmlidan moCans yvelaferi da araferi; Cemi sarkmlidan moCans codva da madli; Cemi sarkmlidan moCans sikvdili da sicocxle; Cemi sarkmlidan moCans bevri sxva sarkmeli da im sarkmlebSi Cans Cemi sarkmeli.
