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es saxeldeba swored rom Seefereba bela uCaZes – gamorCeul biblioTekars, romlis saintereso samyaroSi samogzaurod vepatiJebiT Cvens mkiTxvels. Tundac mxolod misi es ori leqsi: `moTxroba martoxela biblioTekarze~ da `wasvlis romansi~ rom waikiTxo, igrZnob, rom gansakuTrebul poetur samyaroSi moxvdi, sadac suli usamano Tavisuflebasa da silamazes erwymis da ganbrZobili xdebi, radgan dagiunjebia mTeli dedamiwiseuli sibrZne da axla kosmiurs eziarebi
diax, unaTlesia am poeti qalbatonis sulieri samyaro, romelSic wigns, rogorc sulierebis uSret wyaros, sakraluri funqcia dakisrebia – igi xom wlebia, wignis TavSesafris winamZRolia da, rogorc rCeulTa Soris rCeuli biblioTekari, novaciebiT warmarTavs mkiTxvelebTan urTierTobas. swored aseTi adamianebis damsaxurebaa, rom wigns dResac unarCundeba didi misia – iyos eris kulturisa da sulierebis ganmsazRvreli. maS, ase, Cveni stumaria bela uCaZe.
– wignis gzamkvlevi, qomagi, mwerali – es sameba bela uCaZis cxovrebis arsia da daniSnulebaAo – amboben…
– `wignis gzamkvlevi, qomagi, mwerali~ – Zalian aRmatebuli epiTetebia, ara Rirs var! ise, wignis niSniT, ikoniT vvarsebob, wignis TavSesafris mudmivi binadari var, Cems axloblebs da yvelas, visac raime uWirs, am TavSesafarSi vepatiJebi. yovel sawuxars, tkivils umklavdeba wigni da yvelafers uangarod gvaZlevs, arsebiTad, im yvelafers gvaZlevs Tavidan, rac RmerTma erTxel ukve gviboZa.
– eris sulieri amaRleba biblioTekidan iwyeba – am postulats, Cvens saukuneSi, rogor fiqrobT, unarCundeba mniSvneloba?
– ueWvelad! wigni, rogorc sisxlis kodi. . . da kidev ufro metad – identobas inaxavs, gvaqvs `qarTlis cxovreba~, `vefxistyaosani~, xalxuri eposi da bevri, bevri didi wigni. bunebrivia, biblioTeka inaxavs wigns, istorias, tradicias, rac erovnulobis, sulierebis upirvelesi ganmsazRvrelia.
– biblioTeka, romlis gamgec Tqven xarT, kreatiuli RonisZiebebiT gamoirCeva: sxvadasxvagvari konkursebiT, SexvedrebiT. . .
– quTaisis ilia WavWavaZis saxelobis #13 saqalaqo biblioTeka-filiali samoci welia, mkiTxvels emsaxureba. es momsaxureba arc iseTi rutinaa, rogorc SeiZleba mogeCvenoT, igi SemoqmedebiTi procesia, adamianebis gacnoba, maTi fsiqotipebis dadgena, literaturis erToblivi SerCeva, wignismieri naTesaobis dafuZneba-aSeneba, sicarielidan axal-axali kosmosebis dabadeba. . . iyo biblioTekari, niSnavs, iyo demiurgi, Tundac mcire masStabiT, magram mTeli sisavsiT. mkiTxvels sxvadasxva RonisZiebiTac vanebivrebT, xSirad erToblivad vakeTebT, vgegmavT da vaxorcielebT mcire proeqtebs. . .
– qorwili biblioTekaSi – wels rCeuli mkiTxvelebis dawyvileba da bedniereba aRniSneT. es rogor moxda?
– cneba mkiTxveli, zogadad, yovlismomcvelia, CvenTvis, rac dro gadis, kidev ufro met datvirTvas iZens da mkiTxvelebi, gansakuTrebiT, axalgazrdebi, Cveni megobrebi da, raRacnairad, farTo da wignismieri gagebiT, biblioTekarebi xdebian. Cveni urTierToba mtkice da Rrmaa, gacilebiT Rrma, vidre SeiZleba garedan Candes, wignis niSani gvaerTianebs da gavimeoreb – wignismieri naTesaobac. mkiTxvelebs naTelmironobiTac davkavSirebivarT. . . qeTis da nikas qorwilic mkiTxvelis da biblioTekis urTierTobis gaRrmavebis dasturia. maT biblioTekis kedlebSi SeuyvardaT erTmaneTi. am siyvarulis mowme iyo `kacobriobis saunje~. . . yvelaferi lamazi qorwiliT dagvirgvinda, axla pawawina gogona hyavT da ormoci dRis rom gaxdeba, imedia, isic gvewveva biblioTekaSi.
– rogorc quTaisis sajaro biblioTekis Jurnal `TeTri xidis~ erT-erTi sulisCamdgmeli da saredaqcio kolegiis wevri, ras etyodiT mkiTxvels?
– `TeTri xidis~ redkolegis wevri var. am Jurnalis namdvili sulisCamdgmelebi arian Cemi megobrebi: TvalsaCino mwerali ioseb iarRanaSvili da rita waqaZe (sajaro biblioTekis direqtoris moadgile samecniero dargSi). quTaisis sajaro biblioTekis mniSvnelobaze miuTiTebs is faqtic, rom gamodis sazogadoebriv-literaturuli Jurnali. mkiTxvels Tamamad SemiZlia vuTxra: literaturis gurmanebo, ikiTxeT es gamocema, aq vercerT uniWo da erzacul opuss ver naxavT. saukeTeso qarTuli literaturuli tradiciebiT nasazrdoeb, Tanamedroveobis saukeTeso siaxleebs, qarTul da qarTulad naTargmaneb literaturas SemogTavazeben.
– axla ki Tqvens leqsze `moTxroba martoxela biblioTekarze~ visaubroT. mravlismetyvelia formiTac da SinaarsiTac. . . `daTrTvilul wignebs veZebdi rogorc axal miwebs, wyalsa da sazrdos~. . . am Ziebas axlac agrZelebT?
– adamiani sul eZebs: zogi – wigns, zogi – didebas, zogi – kidev ras. . . ase gagrZeldeba, albaT, vidre cocxali xar. imitom ar eZeb, rom rame gasaocari aRmoaCino da rame cvlilebas an diads misce dasabami, ubralod, eZeb. . . imitom, rom sxvanairad ar SegiZlia, sxva araferi ici. .. . eZeb da ver poulob, iqneb imitom, rom ar ici, ras eZeb. . . xandaxan poulob kidec.
– erTma kolegam, roca Tqveni leqsi `wasvlis romansi~ waikiTxa, kosmiuri cnobierebis adepti giwodaT. . . mrCeba STabeWdileba, rom galaqtikebis sunTqva gesmiT. . . da mainc, rogorc Tavad ambobT, `Cveni sulebis uvrces okeaneebs ras daiteven am sityvebis nakadulebi?!~ – prozauladac rom TqvaT, siamovnebiT mogismenT.
– diax, is Tavad gaxlavT kosmiuri vizionebis poeti. poeziac kosmoss – wesrigs gulisxmobs, qaossac, qaoss da kosmoss, maT sinTezs da gancalkavebas. poezia xom caSi yurebiT daiwyo, Cveni xilvebic xom warsul cxovrebaze gviyvebian, roca yvelaferi vicodiT, axla im codnis nakuwebs veRar vagrovebT. . . Cveni sulebis ambebis gadmotana miwier sityvebSi ver xerxdeba, ver eteva maTSi. bunebrivia, kargi mesityve amas sxvaze ukeTesad asrulebs, magram mainc. . . `rogorc nislis namqeri, Camaval mziT naferi, elvarebda napiri samudamo mxareSi. . .~ RmerTis sityvebia, ufro kargad veravin ityoda, magram galaktions, mjera, undoda kidev ufro `kargad~ eTqva.
– `biblioTekaris xelwera~ – aligrafiis am konkursze Tavadac monawileobdiT, minda gkiTxoT, ras emsaxureboda da ra gacxadda?
– qarTveli eris wigniereba kaligrafobis tradiciaSic Cans. Zveli, qarTuli keTili tradicia, imdroindeli, roca jer kidev gutenbergis galaqtika ar arsebobda. aki Cvenma winaprebma saocari silamazis xelnawerebi dagvitoves – formiT, silamaziT unikaluri qarTuli anbaniT. ra dagvaviwyebs, rom qarTveli qalis upirvelesi mziTvi misive xeliT gadawerili `vefxistyaosani~ gaxldaT. progress ver SeaCereb – beWdvam da Semdeg totalurad gavrcelebulma eleqtronulma servisebma mogvwyvites qaRald-sawerkalamTan urTierTobas. biblioTekaris profesia karg kaligrafobasac gulisxmobs, Tixis wignebidan moyolebuli, skriptoriumebis CaTvliT, biblioTekarebi da mxatvrebi iyvnen mudam gadamwerebi. yvela biblioTekari kaligrafi iyo met-naklebad, radgan mas unda ewera sakatalogo (baraTebi da sxva sabiblioTeko dokumentebi) mkafio, gasagebi, lamazi, mrgvali asoebiT. kaligrafiis konkursi yvelgan SeiZleba gaimarTos, ki, batono, biblioTekaSi – upirvelesad. konkursis organizatori axalgazrda gogonaa, eleqtronuli servisebis, klaviaturis Taobis warmomadgeneli. es niSnavs, rom tradicias arc am aswleulSi emuqreba gadaSeneba.
– Tqveni megobrebi arian Tqveni sulierebis naTesavebi, xom? da vin arian isini?
– megobrebi sulieri naTesavebi arian! sulieri naTesaoba Cvens SemTxvevaSi arc tropia da arc poeturi abstraqcia, sinamdvilea, droSi gamocdili da ueWveli. saerTod, ojaxi da megobrebi CemTvis umTavresia. Cemi megobrebi geniosebi da ukeTilSobilesi adamianebi arian. SeiZleba amitom aris CemTvis amqveyniuri problemebi aramcTu asatani, aramed SeumCnevelic ki. paTetikurad gamomdis, magram asea: Cven idealistebi varT, yvelaferi gvaerTianebs, siyvaruli samSoblos, wignis, literaturis, xelovnebis, pasuxgaucemeli kiTxvebi da dausrulebeli Ziebebi – arsebobis erTaderTi forma. yvelaferi gvaerTianebs – sicocxlis siyvaruli, neli tragizmi, iumori. . . yvelaferi, riTac yofnis ulmoblobas vebrZviT da dedamiwis mizidulobas vumklavdebiT.
– `madloba, Cemo axdenilo ocnebav!. .~ – qaliSvilisadmi miZRvnili es sityvebi Tqvens ojaxur sarkeSi Casaxedad gviwvevs. . .
– ojaxi Cemi bednierebis uSreti wyaroa, Cemi mcire kosmosi, uflis wyaloba. me da Cemma meuRlem 28 wlis winaT SevqmeniT ojaxi, ori Svili gvyavs, zrdasrulebi. arcerTi araa daqorwinebuli, arada, bebioba damigvianda da es maSfoTebs. Svilebze ra unda vTqva? Svili Svilia! wmidaTawmidaa! gana SeiZleba Svilebis qeba sajarod? maTi gakritikebac arabunebrivia. Svili xom isaa, rasac RmerTi Tavis wilad gatans, roca yofnis udabnoSi giSvebs. siamaye momakvdinebeli codvaa da ar vamayob – uflis madlieri var, rom aseTi meuRle da Svilebi myavs, yovelTvis maT CrdilqveS da maTi mzrunvelobiT vcxovrobdi da vcxovrob.
– iseTi didi tradiciebisa da warsulis qalaqSi cxovreba, rogoric quTaisia, albaT, Zalian sainteresoa. Tqveni TvaliT gagvatareT quTaisSi. . .
– quTaisi mzis qalaqia, dedamiwaze – erT-erTi uZvelesi. sami aTasi da meti xnis winaT `aq iyo saqarTvelo, saxelad kolxeTi~, aqedan iwyeba dedamiwis bavSvobis xanac, im droindeli mxolod fazisia da mis napirze dayrili TeTri qvebi, mainc yvela quTaiselis TvalebSi dainaxavT Zvel kolxs. quTaisSi cxovreba saamayocaa da sevdis momgvrelic. quTaisi araa is saxasiaTo qalaqi, rogorsac qarTul satelevizio SouebSi warmoaCen, arc quTaiselebi arian zedapiruli, mxolod iumoriT cnobili adamianebi, romlebsac imave televiziebis ekranebidan dainaxavT. quTaisi kulturis, xelovnebis qalaqi iyo da aris, orjer gadausxa sisxli Tbiliss wina saukuneSi, misca is inteligencia, im moRvaweebis ZiriTadi birTvi, romlebmac gamarTes qarTuli kultura, literatura, saazrovno sivrce. quTaisis simdidrea inteligencia, inteleqtualebi, uniWieresi axalgazrdebi. . . siamovnebiT viqnebi Tqveni megzuri quTaisSi. . . da ara mxolod warmosaxviT. sanaxavi bevri ramaa: bagratis taZari – saqarTvelos erTianobis simbolo, oqros Cardaxi, Cveni ganTqmuli TeTri xidi, jaWvis xidi, wiTeli xidi, rusTavelis xidi, am xidebis kompoziciaSi moqceuli rioni da mefeTa ubani, Cveni muzeumebi da saxl-muzeumebi, saxviTi xelovnebis galerea, sajaro biblioTeka, wels rom 160 wlis xdeba. . . gelaTi, mowameTa, geguTi. . .
– roca baTums stumrobT, ra gizidavT aq, ra mogwonT da ra – ara? Tqven da baTumelebi. . . axla maT pirispir dgaxarT da ras etyviT?
– baTumi Cemi didi siyvarulia. marto zRva, laJvardi ca da mzis diskoze gafrenili TeTri Tolia ar aris baTumi. guSin viyavi am ulamazes qalaqSi, cota SemaSfoTa ganaSenianebis siswrafem da qaosurobam, magram es albaT drois niSania, gadaivlis da qalaqis individualurobas bevrs veras daaklebs. baTumi is adgilia, sadac dRecismare frontia gaxsnili, brZolaa, Ria Wrilobebis moSuSeba da isev gaxsnaa. yvelaze metad rac miyvars da maimedebs, adamianebi arian, is moRvaweebi, romlebic weren istorias, kulturas, xelovnebas qmnian. . . didi pasuxismgeblobiT, ZalisxmeviT, TavdadebiT, nafiqr-naRvaws, upirvelesad, saqveyno, erovnul prizmaSi atareben, individualizmisa da personaluri gadaxvevebis, sakuTari Tavis gamoxatvis garda, mxatvruli sityvis Zalmosilebisa da silamazis garda, saukuneebiT nagrovebi da dRevandeli tkivilebis gadmoTargmna itvirTes, Tavdadeba da msxverpli sWirdeba am saRmrTo da saero saqmes. maTi naTqvami sityva sxva, aRmatebiTi mniSvnelobisaa. yvelaze metad swored es adamianebi, es moRvaweebi miyvars, maT veTayvanebi, isini CemTvis gmirobis magaliTebi arian. miyvars `aWaraSi gadarCenili qarTuli sityva~, Jruantelis momgvreli aWaruli dialeqti. miyvars da meimedeba qarTuli literaturis es mZlavri frTa. . . gansakuTrebiT, qarTveli mwerali qalebi: genrieta quTaTelaZe, bela qeburia, mzia salvariZe, Sorena doliZe, qalTamze ana surmaniZe.
