,,ინგლისის განათლების ელემენტების გადმოტანა სასარგებლო იქნება”
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xulos resurscentris ufrosi eduard miqelaZe erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi ucxoeTSi, kerZod inglisSi, kvalifikaciis asamaRleblad imyofeboda. iq miRebul gamocdilebasa da xulos skolebSi arsebul mdgomareobaze igi `aWarasTan~ saubrobs.
– batono eduard, `aWaris~ mkiTxvels axsovs, rom imyofebodiT amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi, havais kunZulebze, amjerad evropidan dabrundiT. ra mizans emsaxureboda Tqveni ucxoeTSi yofna garkveuli periodis ganmavlobaSi?
– davasrule baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis magistratura, filologiuri fakultetis inglisuri enisa da literaturis specialobiT. 11 welia ganaTlebis sistemaSi vmuSaob, aq muSaobis periodSi Teoriulad gavecani mravali qveynis saganmanaTleblo sistemas, Zalian momewona inglisis saganmanaTleblo sistema da midgomebi. Sesabamisad, gadavwyvite, magistraturis xarisxi inglisSi damecva. Tu SexedavT msoflio universitetebis reitingebs, saukeTeso universitetebis oceulSi 7-8 inglisuri universitetia. es miuTiTebs, rom ganaTlebis done sakmaod maRalia am qveyanaSi, rac isedac yvelasTvis cnobilia. uamravi gacvliTi programa aqvT rogorc saelCoebs, aseve, premier-ministrTan arsebul ganaTlebis saerTaSoriso centrs. didi britaneTis mTavrobis gacvliTi programa, Chevening-i Zalian didi popularobiT sargeblobs mTels msoflioSi, aseve, saqarTveloSi. yoveli wlis seqtemberSi aRniSnuli programa acxadebs konkurss, Sesabamisad, miviRe monawileoba da britaneTis mTavrobis sruli dafinansebiT magistratura gaviare londonis sauniversiteto kolejSi, ganaTlebis mimarTulebiT.
– ramdenad Sedegiania inglisSi miRebuli codna saqarTveloSi muSaobisas?
– gaviare magistratura, samagistro Tema mqonda: `ganaTlebis sistemis sesxeba ganviTarebuli qveynebisgan saqarTveloSi~. Zalian saintereso Temaa da vfiqrob, rom inglisis ganaTlebis sistemis elementebis gadmotana da qarTuli ganaTlebis sistemaSi maTi implementacia, ganaTlebis donis ganviTarebas sxva etapze gadaiyvans.
– skola, ganaTlebis sistema Zalian faqizi Temaa. garkveuli drois ganmavlobaSi saqarTvelos mocilebuli iyaviT. ra datoveT da ra dagxvdaT?
– vapireb iq miRebuli codnisa da gamocidlebis gaziarebas skolebisTvis, skola damoukidebeli instituciaa da Tu romelime skola gadawyvets damoukideblad ganaxorcilos garkveuli reforma adgilobriv doneze, maTi kompetenciis farglebSi, didi siamovnebiT davuWer mxars. amis Sesaxeb vesaubre sajaro skolis direqtorebs da vnaxoT, ra iqneba momavalSi. saxecvlilebebic sakmaoa da gamowvevebs erTad SeveWidebiT. rogorc sayovelTaod cnobilia, ganaTlebis sistemaSi mimdinareobs aqtiuri reformebi, Sesabamisad, dadebiTi cvlilebebis mxriv damxvda bevri siaxle, magaliTad, skolebSi eqTnisa da eqimis Stati daiSva, romelic siaxle iyo CemTvis, aseve, lideri maswavleblebis gadamzadeba skolebSi, Tumca didi xania ganaTlebis sistemaSi vmuSaob da siaxleebTan adaptacia ar gamWirvebia.
– ramdenad icnobs rigiTi ingliseli saqarTvelos?
– rogorc amerikaSi, iseve inglisSi, gamikvirda is faqti, rom ar ician saqarTvelos Sesaxeb, zogjer jorjiis StatSic ki eSlebodaT xolme. sasiamovnod gakvirvebuli davrCi, roca Cemma erTma leqtorma miambo qarTuli samzareulos gansakuTrebulobis Sesaxeb. londonSi
20-mde qarTuli restorania da Tundac es faqti metyvelebs imaze, rom Cveni samzareulo Zalian moswonT, Sesabamisad, amiT ufro aris cnobili saqarTvelo. saintereso faqti SememTxva erT-erT leqciaze, roca leqtorma gvTxova, wargvedgina Cveni pirovneba misTvis da Cvens qveyanasTan dakavSirebuli erTi cnobili faqti an figura dagvesaxelebina. moxda ise, rom vTqvi, stalini iyo Cemi qveynidan, me var saqarTvelodan-meTqi. stalinis xsenebaze, ra Tqma unda, yvelas diqtatori gagvaxsneda, Tumca am leqtorma aRniSna, rom stalinma SeaCera faSizmi msoflioSi da Cven am faqtiT unda vamayobdeT kidec, vidre gvrcxvenodes. CemTvis Zalian moulodneli iyo stalinis amgvari daxasiaTeba londonis erT-erT saukeTeso universitetSi.
– ojaxur garemoSi giwevdaT yofna-cxovreba, Tu. . .
– rogorc ukve giTxariT, britaneTis mTavrobis stipendiiT viyavi inglisSi, Sesabamisad, mqonda damoukideblad cxovrebis SesaZlebloba. viqirave erTi oTaxi da erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi vcxovrobdi meuRlesTan da SvilTan erTad, ojaxur garemoSi.
– riT moixibleT?
– Zalian momewona londonis arqiteqtura Tavisi Zvelisa da axlis SerwymiT. mxolod londonSi 300 muzeumia da es cifri yvelaferze metyvelebs. momewona maTi cxovrebis stili da Tavisufleba, romelic am qveyanaSia.
– qarTuli da inglisuri skolis ra saerTo elementebi, Tundac swavlebis meTodebi da xerxebi aRmoaCineT?
– SemiZlia dausruleblad visaubro ganaTlebis sistemis Sedarebaze Cvensa da ingliss Soris, Tumca sruliad gansxvavebuli midgomebi aqvT iq da gansxvavebuli midgomebia CvenTan. ori gansxvavebuli kultura da, Sesabamisad, ganaTlebis sistemaa. Cveni da maTi ganaTlebis sistemis msgavsebaze saubari gamiZneldeba.
– pedagogis Sroma saqarTveloSi ukve, garkveulwilad, fasdeba. aqauri pedagogis saarsebo kalaTa ramdenad miaxloebulia ingliselisas?
– sxvaTa Soris, ar icnoben Cvens sistemas Zalian kargad. Tumca erTi Tema mivuZRveni saqarTveloSi maswavleblad miRebis wessa da pirobebs, maswavlebelTa saxls, xarisxis ganviTarebis erovnul centrs da Zalian moewonaT Cveni midgomebi. kalaTa sakmaod gansxvavebulia. jer kidev bevria gasakeTebeli am mimarTulebiT.
– Tu ician da rogor afaseben ingliselebi CvenTan moqmed erTiani erovnuli gamocdebis sistemas?
– miesalmebian am sistemas da saskolo reformis warmatebad miiCneven.
– saswavlo wlis pirveli semestri mTavrdeba. ra viTarebaa xulos municipalitetis skolebSi?
– Seferxebisa da problemebis gareSe mimdinareobs saswavlo procesi yvela skolaSi, yvelgan aris Semotanili SeSa da yvela pirobaa imisTvis, rom swavla skolebSi normalurad mimdinareobdes. saswavlo procesi ukve ganaxlda kaloTis sajaro skolis axal SenobaSi. Sesabamisad, yvela axal wamowyebas, proeqts Tu ideas vcdilobT avuwyoT fexi da xulo iyos gansakuTrebiT warmatebuli municipaliteti. Zalian kargi miRwevebi gvaqvs sportis mimarTulebiT, gvyavs Cempionebi magidis CogburTSi rogorc adgilobriv, ise saerTaSoriso doneze. mekeiZeebis sajaro skolis pedagogi roland SavaZe saqarTvelos saukeTeso maswavleblad aRiares da mesame maswavlebelia, romelic mentoris wodebas atarebs. imasac getyviT, rom mzia kaxaZe Cemi inglisSi yofnisas gaxda mentori maswavlebeli, rac misasalmebelia.
– ratom gaWianurda beRleTis sajaro skolis mSeneblobis dasruleba?
– Cvenis mxridan yvelaferi keTdeboda imisTvis, rom droulad dasrulebuliyo am skolis mSenebloba, Tumca mSenebels Seeqmna garkveuli dabrkolebebi. am etapze, aqtiurad mimdinareobs Sida mopirkeTebis samuSaoebi da vimedovnebT, rom axal saswavlo wels skolis axal SenobaSi ganvaaxlebT.
– inglisidan dabrunebis Semdeg pirveli sajaro gamosvla xiWauris saswavlo universitetSi gamarTul Sekrebaze gqondaT. rogoria am saganmanaTleblo keris daniSnuleba xulos skolebis pedagogiuri kadrebiT uzrunvelyofaSi?
– mimaCnia, rom xiWauris universitetis gaxsniT, marTlac Zalian didi sargebeli miiRo sazogadoebam. araerTi kursdamTavrebuli aswavlis xulos sajaro skolebSi da Zalian warmatebuli maswavleblebi arian, aseve, resurscentrSic muSaoben aRniSnuli universitetis kursdamTavrebulebi da didad kmayofili varT. minda visargeblo SemTxveviT da madloba gadavuxado saqarTvelos sapatriarqos, piradad uwmindessa da unetares ilia meores, sxalTis eparqiis mTavarepiskopos meufe spiridons am saSviliSvilo saqmisTvis, sxva iniciatorebs, romlebmac xeli Seuwyves mTian aWaraSi universitetis daarsebas. samomavlod Zalian didi perspeqtiva aqvs am universitets da Cven, rogorc SegveZleba, mxars vuWerT mis ganviTarebas.
– inglisSi mopovebuli magistris xarisxi Tu gaZlevT uflebas, rom leqciebis kursi saqarTvelos umaRles saswavleblebSi waikiTxoT?
– aramarto ucxoeTSi miRebuli ganaTlebiT, aramed 11 welia ganaTlebis sistemaSi vmuSaob da vfiqrob, rogorc adgilobrivi, iseve ucxouri gamocdilebis TvalsazrisiT SemiZlia leqcia wavikiTxo ganaTlebis mimarTulebiT, Tumca am etapze, arcerT universitets ar gamouTqvams amis survili da arc me mimimarTavs. Zalian bevri saqmea gasakeTebeli adgilobrivi skolebisTvis da marTlac didi dro da energia sWirdeba imas, rasac resurscentrebis xelmZRvanelebi vakeTebT.
– ruseT-ukrainis omis dawyebas ucxoeTSi SexvdiT. rogoria ingliselTa damokidebuleba am omisadmi?
– upirobod, mTeli inglisi, iseve, rogorc mTeli ganviTarebuli samyaro, ukrainas uWers mxars. es igrZnoba quCaSi, saganmanTleblo, samTavrobo Tu kerZo dawesebulebebSi. praqtikulad, yvela samTavrobo Senobazea aRmarTuli ukrainis droSa.
– am oms ra dasasruls uwinaswarmetyvelebT?
– imperiebi unda daimsxvres, 21-e saukuneSi patara qveynis dapyrobaze did da atomuri iaraRiT momaragebul saxelmwifoebs Tvali aRar unda eWiroT. ukrainelebi samarTlian oms awarmoeben da samarTalic maT mxaresaa.
– `wyaroze~ mosmenili ambavi, metwilad, amarTlebs. ucxoeTidan dabrunebuls ra molodini gaqvT, rom saqarTvelom evrokavSiris kandidati qveynis statusi moipovos?
– umravlesobis da Cemi survilicaa, rom rac SeiZleba male moipovis saqarTvelom evrokavSiris wevrobis kandidati qveynis statusi. vinaidan Zalian gvWirdeba maTi gamocdileba, gansakuTrebiT – ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis ganviTarebis sakiTxebSi. miuxedavad imisa, rom inglisi Cveni qveynis Zalian didi mxardamWeri da partnioria, statusis miRebis TvalsazrisiT mxars ver dagviWers – iciT, rom TviTonac ar arian evrosabWos Tu evropuli struqturebis wevrebi. amavdroulad, mimaCnia, rom did britaneTTanac SesaZlebelia ufro mWidro kavSirebis ganviTareba, gansakuTrebiT ganaTlebis da mecnierebis sferoSi.
