,,ვარ ჩემი სამშობლოს ,,ელჩი” განუსაზღვრელი ვადით”
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Cveni stumaria evropaSi pirveli qarTuli internettelevizia M
-is damfuZnebeli da prezidenti, poeti, emigranti meli TurmaniZe. igi qedis raionis sofel merisSi daibada. ukve 17 welia, italiaSi, qalaq milanSi cxovrobs. didia misi roli Cveni emigrantebis yoveldRiuri mZime yofis Semsubuqebasa da TanadgomaSi.
– qalbatono meli, didi xania italiaSi cxovrobT, TqvenTvis ra aris emigracia?
– emigracia – es aris tkivili, magram arcTu ise didi xnis win mivxvdi, rom ar var emigranti, ar maqvs sevdianobis dro. var Cemi samSoblos `elCi~ ganusazRvreli vadiT da am misiis Sewyveta SemiZlia mxolod me da maSin, roca CavTvli, rom Cemi SesaZleblobebi, rogorc `elCis~, amowurulia.
– rogor Seiqmna M?
– televizia valdebulebis SegrZnebaa, romelic maqvs sakuTari erisa da xalxis winaSe. yvelaferi bevrad ufro adre, 2019 wlis 13 ianvars daiwyo, rodesac safuZveli Caeyara qarTul-italiur kulturul asociacia `merans~. pandemiis dawyebamde xSirad vmarTavdiT qarTul saRamoebs, sadac uwyvetad mimdinareobda qarTuli simReris, tradiciuli tanisamosis Tu samzareulos popularizacia. pandemiam msoflio wesrigi Secvala da, ra Tqma unda, Cven ar viyaviT gamonaklisi, amitom gadavwyviteT, socialuri qselebis daxmarebiT Cveni wili Tanadgoma gamogvexata saxlebSi gamoketili emigrantebisadmi da ase daviwyeT pirdapiri eTeri. Seiqmna araerTi rubrika, romelTa Soris yvelaze mniSvnelovani iyo `literaturuli saRamoebi melisTan erTad~, `portali~, `garibaldis 73-Si~, `ardabagi~, `yava onlain~, sabavSvo gadacemebi `kiTxuloben bavSvebi~ da `mipasuxe~. 2020 wlis dekemberSi, teqnikuri SesaZleblobebis gafarToebis mizniT, gavaqtiurdiT sxvadasxva platformaze da ukve myarad Seqmnil safuZvelze davaarseT internettelevizia M. ukve erTi wlis varT da uwyvetad vmuSaobT. radikalurad ar vemxrobiT reitingis amaRlebas negatiuri ambebis gaSuqebiT. aqtiurad vcdilobT kulturis, literaturisa da istoriis farTod gavrcelebasa da gacvlas, aseve SevqmeniT precedenti gadacemiT `mig.racia~, romelic orientirebulia saqarTvelos farglebs gareT mcxovrebi emigrantebis uflebebisa Tu valdebulebebis gaTviTcnobierebaze. sabednierod, Cemi ideis Tanamoziarea Cemi Svilobili, romelsac Zalian didi wvlili miuZRvis televiziis ganviTarebaSi. samwuxarod, am etapze erTaderTi qarTuli internettelevizia varT saqarTvelos sazRvrebs gareT. Sasurvelia, rac SeiZleba meti msgavsi sainformacio wyaro Seiqmnas.
– aRgviwereT Tqveni Tundac erTi dRe, cxovrebis wesi, adamianebi, urTierTobebi. . .
– mniSvnelovania, dRes romeli mxridan SevxedavT, Sevecdebi orive mxareze gesaubroT. Tu dRes vuyurebT rogorc emigrantis morig gaTenebas ucxo miwaze, is Zalian sevdiania. 17 wlis Semdegac, vidre darabebs gamovaReb, mgonia, saqarTveloSi, Cems mSobliur kedlebSi gaviRviZe, bunebrivia, sevdismomgvrelia realoba, romelic darabebs miRma gvxvdeba. Tumca, aris meore mxare, Cveulebrivi moqalaqis yoveldRiuroba. yvelaze metad rac miyvars, Rimilia, aq yvela iRimeba, Tu erTi da igive adgilas orjer an samjer mainc gnaxa adamianma, SeiZleba mosalmebisgan Tavi Seikavos, magram Rimils ar daiSurebs. vuRimiT erTmaneTs da vagrZelebT gzas, es ukve dilis pozitivia, romelic mTeli dRe migyveba. sazogadoebrivi transporti ar agvianebs, rac meore mizezia imisaTvis, rom mSvidad gaagrZelo dRe, arsebobs gansazRvruli samuSao grafiki, kuTvnili SesvenebiTa da gaTvlili dRiuri saaTebiT. aqac ar gaqvs mizezi nervebis moSlis, rCeba mxolod is, rogorme moergo Sens arCeul an iRblisgan gamometebul samuSaos, rac ioli araa, radgan, samwuxarod, Cven iseTi qveynidan movdivarT, sadac samuSao sferoSi jansaRi kanoni jer kidev ar moqmedebs. emigrantis daZabul nervebs ki xandaxan aqauri wesrigic ki aRizianebs. albaT, saWiroa gaviazroT, rom aq ara Cveni wesebis dasamyareblad, aramed samuSaod da dasamkvidreblad an droTa ganmavlobaSi Sin dasabruneblad movediT da bevri ram Seicvleba ukeTesobisken.
– rogor gesaxebaT Tqveni, rogorc emigrantis xvalindeli dRe?
– zemoT, naxevrad xumrobiT vaxsene, rom ar var emigranti, me elCi var Cemi qveynis da amas marTla ase aRviqvam. dadga Cems cxovrebaSi etapi, romelSic ara mxolod Tavis da samSobloSi darCenili sanaTesaos gadarCenaze zrunvaa, aramed yoveldRiuri fiqri, rogor da ra meTodiT gavuwodoT xeli emigrants. samwuxarod, mas Zalian bevri barieri aqvs gadasalaxavi, yvelaze didi ki enis ucodinarobaa, razec uamravi detalia jaWviviT asxmuli – ver axerxeb moipovo saWiro informacia, saWiro misamarTi. Tu ipovi, daniSnulebis adgilze misulma ar ici, rogor daamyaro komunikacia. amasTanave, Zalian samwuxaro realobaa emigraciis axali talRa da zogierTi ZirZveli emigrantis damokidebuleba maT mimarT – daxmarebis xelis gawvdis nacvlad, Tanxebs Zalaven. . . Cemi guSindeli, dRevandeli da xvalindeli dRec am adamianebis Tanadgomaa. amisTvis Seiqmna Tavis droze asociacia, amisTvis Seiqmna pirveli internettelevizia -i. uwyvet reJimSi vcdilobT, rac SeiZleba meti pozitivi da saWiro informacia mivitanoT emigrantebTan. aseve vcdilobT, jansaRi informacia movitanoT saqarTvelomde im qveynebidan, sadac vcxovrobT, raTa garyvnili da gaxrwnili evropis mcdari stereotipi davarRvioT. is, rac saqarTveloSi miuRebelia, arc aq moswonT adamianebs. evropel adamianebs aqvT Zalian bevri kargi Tviseba, Tumca axla mxolod erTs minda gavusva xazi, maTTvis ar xar qarTveli, maTTvis xar – meli, mariami, ana. . . Seni TvisebebiT, Seni qceviT, ganaTlebis doniT Tu sxva mravali detaliT qmnian Sens pirovnebas da imis mixedviT gafaseben. Sens erovnebas zemoT CamoTvlil detalebSi adgili ar aqvs. jer pirovneba xar da mere warmoaCen an ver warmoaCen Sens qveyanas. aravin gagiwyreba imis gamo, rom sadRac qarTvels raRac dauSavebia da radgan qarTveli xar, Senc cudi xar. es Tviseba, rogorc emigrants, uzarmazar tvirTs gaclis mxrebidan, ar gaqvs SiSi, rom sazogadoeba gagriyavs, Sens xelTaa yvela berketi saimisod, rom daimkvidro Tavi iq, sadac xar.
– mogoneba, romelic mudmivad Tan gsdevT da STagagonebT. . .
– es mogoneba dedaCemTan ganSorebaa. . . albaT yvela emigrantis yvelaze mtkivneuli dRe esaa da verafers vityvi gansakuTrebuls, Tumca arc saTqmeli maqvs meti. giJurad Tovda, Zalian didi da saocari fantelebi cvioda cidan, gzebi Caiketa. me sofel merisSi gavizarde, Cemi ojaxi iq cxovrobs dRemde, amitom bunebrivia, mSoblebTan gamomSvidobeba gvindoda wasvlamde da ugzoobis gamo, sami kilometri fexiT viareT TovlSi, raTa jer saxlamde migveRwia da mere avtobusamde. vidre davbrundebodiT, Tovlis safarma kidev ufro moimata, mama da SuaTana Zma gagvyva avtobusamde, deda Sin darCa, Zalian gamiWirda damSvidobeba, meored ukan dabrunebuli magrad Camikra gulSi da mere Zlierad xeli mkra mkacri toniT, aRar dabrundeo, amis gaxseneba erTdroulad mangrevs da maSenebs! mere maxsovs, rogor vabraxunebdi gzaze nabijebs, megona ise Zlieri aRmovCndebodi, mTebs CamovSlidi namqerebad da mere vityodi, me arafer SuaSi var, ojaxis gadasarCenad mivdiodi, magram gza Caixerga, Cemi ra bralia?! ver CamovSale mTebi namqerebad. . . wavedi.
– Tqvens SesaniSnav poeziaze ras gvetyviT?
– poezia. . . ver vityvi, rom poeti var, ubralod, es saocari sivrce Cemi TavSesafaria. ufro vkiTxulob, vidre vwer, Tumca sakuTar SemoqmedebaSi arcTu ise cotaa leqsebi, romlebic miyvars. jer kidev skolis asakSi vwerdi, sakmaod didi intervalis Semdeg, emigraciaSi mivubrundi poezias. Cveni epoqa mdidaria saocari avtorebiT, am mxriv aWara gamorCeulia. araerTi kargi avtori gvyavs, maT fonze me, albaT, unda vdumde, magram gavkadnierdebi da mkiTxvelisTvis or leqss dagitovebT.
`guSin mamam Tqva, marnebs SiaTo,
beRurac aRar CeCqvavs Cxaverebs,
sicariele, es uniaTo
daclil curiviT adevs mTa-velebs.
mova zamTari mitovebulTan,
kvlav Cumi yinviT gauTbobs xelebs
da dasamarxav patarZaliviT
TeTri kabebiT Semosavs xeebs . . .
`- wuxel gaTovda, sayoniaTs axuravs
Cadri~.
miyveba mama da fiqrebSi,
kvlav marans dardobs.
me xmaSi vxedav, mama rogor iwvdis
survilebs da zamTris susxiT
Tmaaburjgnul sakvamurs aTbobs. . . ~.
`vidre me vfiqrob: – mTebSi nislia,
gamosdebia ZeZvs da naZvnarebs,
zeca gamoSlis fiqrebis kalTas da
mTebis yelze daasaxlkarebs.
icis moTovac, mWvartlavdes TiTqos,
gaRma buxris yels Tvals veRar hkideb
da fiqriani kurTxvelas qedi,
nislis sarafans moigdebs kidev!
dums da dumilis eqo Rrialebs,
an sityva rogor ityvis nafiqrals?!
Sezrialdeba sayoniaTi,
mimoisworebs guSin nafifqars.
da mainc, vidre vfiqrob nislia,
vumzer da TvalSi firebs valageb,
zecis nafiqri SeSlili azri
yovel mtkavelze lokavs alagebs,
sadac erTxelac ise CamoTovs,
me veRar vixel mzes da maisebs. . .
dums da dumilis eqo Rrialebs,
mTebis aCrdili meteva TvalSi,
rogor megona ukidegano,
roca patara viyavi, maSin. . .
swored poeziis da literaturis siyvarulma momca Zala, emigrantebisTvis Semeqmna sivrce, sadac SesaZlebloba eqnebodaT gamoeweraT an waekiTxaT qarTuli wignebi. biblioTekas sakuTari sacxovrebeli farTis nawili davuTme da milanis emigracias pirveli qarTuli biblioTeka gavuxseni, sadac SeuZliaT Sesvla da wignis gamowera. amas xazgasmiT imitom vambob, rom vidre me gavxsnidi biblioTekas, wignebis garkveuli maragi hqonda qarTul samrevlos, romelsac Cveni Zalian Zvirfasi mama kirion maCaiZe uZRveba.
