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saqarTvelos pedagogTa da mecnierTa Tavisufali profkavSiris Suaxevis raionuli organizaciis Tavmjdomares, `sapatio Suaxevels~, samTavrobo jildoebis mflobels levan natariZes dabadebidan 70 weli Seusrulda. igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– batono levan, ra aris mTavari, wuTisofelSi kvali naTeli rom datovo?
– pirvel yovlisa, madlobas gixdiT, rom gazeTi `aWara~ Cemi saqmianobiT dainteresda. vityodi, rom yoveli adamiani unda Seecados wuTisofelSi keTilsindisieri SromiT, madlis keTebis surviliT iaros. ar arsebobs didi da patara saqme, yvela Rirebulia, Tu mas guliT da siyvaruliT akeTeb. sazogadoeba arasdros rCeba gulgrili patiosani da mSromeli adamianis mimarT, madli cotac rom akeTo, dainaxavs, Tu mas guliT akeTeb. Cem mier ganvlili gza SeumCneveli arasodes darCenila.
– pedagogiur sarbielze Tqveni gamoCena ram ganapiroba?
– pataraobidanve maswavlebeli uflis tolfasad mimaCnda. mas sazogadoebaSi mudam sapatio adgili eWira da mec maswavleblobaze didi profesia qveynad ar meguleboda. SesaniSnavi aRmzrdelebi myavda. aAw gansvenebuli Cemi pirveli maswavlebeli mamud TavdgiriZe, Semdgom Salva ivanaZe, nadia miqelaZe, Sadiman da dimitri ustiaSvilebi, abesalom abuseliZe, nodar TavdgiriZe, Tamar gogitiZe… Cemi arCevani metwilad maT gansazRvres.
– didxans maswavlebelTa maswavleblis, anu meTodistis tituli gqondaT .. .
– baTumis SoTa rusTavelis pedagogiuri institutis pedagogiuri fakultetis (ase erqva maSin) damTavrebis Semdeg, Cems mSobliur goras dawyebiT skolaSi daviwye gamge-maswavleblad muSaoba. Cemi saqmianoba aWaris ganaTlebis saministrom Seiswavla, moiwona da ramdenime klasTan muSaobis formebi da meTodebi ganazogada. ase aRmovCndi mowinaveTa rigebSi. maSin `pedagogiuri kiTxvebi~ tradiciulad tardeboda. saintereso moxsenebebi respublikur da sakavSiro pedagogiur konferenciebze igzavneboda. es pativi mec mergo da 1977 wels alma-aTis sakavSiro pedagogiur konferenciaSi miviRe monawileoba. amave wels pirvelad Catarda maswavlebelTa atestacia da Suaxevis raionSi sam pedagogs – oladauris sajaro skolis biologiis maswavlebel aleqsandre makaraZes, uCambis sajaro skolis qimiis maswavlebel Teimuraz beriZesa da me, saqarTvelos ganaTlebis ministr oTar qinqlaZis brZanebiT, ufrosi maswavleblis wodeba mogveniWa. 2003 wels aWaris ganaTlebis saministrom novatori pedagogis wodeba momaniWa. 1980 wlidan gadamiyvanes Suaxevis ganaTlebis ganyofilebis jer dawyebiTi klasebis meTodistad, Semdeg, aRmzrdelobiTi muSaobis mTavar specialistad. yovelwliurad TiTqmis yvela skolaSi mivdiodiT. fexiT maqvs Semovlili Suaxevis raionis yvela sofeli da ubani. vexmarebodiT axalbeda maswavleblebs, viwonebdiT mowinave pedagogebis gamocdilebas. pirvelma davnerge gamocdil pedagogTa mier saCvenebeli gakveTilebis Catarebis praqtika, aRmzrdelobiTi muSaobis meTodistad muSaobis dros, skolebSi SemoviRe klasis xelmZRvanelis davTari da klasis xelmZRvanelis saaTi, romelic sagakveTilo cxrilSi Sevatanine, ramac kargi Sedegi gamoiRo. saqarTvelos ganaTlebis saministrom idea moiwona da siaxled CagviT vala.
– jabniZeebeli natariZeebis gvaridan erT-erTma pirvelma CaabareT aspiranturaSi. ratom aRar gahyeviT mecnierebas?
– instituti warCinebiT davamTavre. 1979 wels Caviricxe sulxan-saba orbelianis saxelobis pedagogiuri institutis aspiranturaSi, dauswrebel ganyofilebaze pedagogikisa da istoriis specialobiT. aq leqciebs mikiTxavdnen cnobili mecnierebi naTela vasaZe, vladimer gagua, givi WaniSvili, irakli kviJinaZe, naTela imedaZe. Cavabare sakandidato minimumis gamocdebi da disertaciaze muSaobac daviwye. mecnier-xelmZRvanelad qalbatoni bela gomelauri daminiSnes. dadga soflidan qalaqSi gadasvlis aucilebloba. ojaxSi xandazmuli deda myavda, roca Cemi gadawyvetileba gavumxile, miTxra – wadi, Svilo, me aqedan arsad wamsvleli ar var da wylis momwodebels rogorme vnaxavo. am sityvebma ise imoqmeda Cemze, rom dedis sicocxleSi soflidan ar gavsulvar. disertaciaze muSaobac im dRidan Sevwyvite. ar vici, ra donis mecnieri muSaki viqnebodi, magram dedis wyena mTeli cxovreba gamyveboda da amitom ar vnanob.
– sananebeli arc gaqvT – kargi maswavleblobis Semdeg maTi uflebebis damcvelis statusi gaqvT.
– 21-e saukunis dasawyisSi, roca ganaTlebis sistemis reorganizacia moxda da raionebSi ganaTlebis ganyofilebebis bazaze resurscentrebi Camoyalibda, mTavar specialistTa samsaxurebma funqcia dakarga. me pedagogTa uflebebis damcvelTa rigebSi Cavdeqi da aq Cemi SesaZleblobebis warmoCena vcade. rogor gamomdis, es maT unda hkiTxoT.
– ojaxze ras gvetyviT?
– Svilebis momavalze zrunva yvela mSoblis movaleobaa, magram Svilebmac unda Segviwyon xeli. am mxriv, madloba RmerTs, beds ar vemduri. bednierebaa, rom xuTi SviliSvilis babua var. mSvidi da wynari ojaxi maqvs. meuRle – nanuli abuseriZe profesiiT pedagogia. yovel saqmesa da wamowyebaSi gverdiT midgas. rZlebSic gamimarTla. Cemi erTi vaJi baTumis meriis safinanso samsaxuris ufrosia, meore – zeda aWyvis sajaro skolis direqtori.
– pedagogiuri saqmianobidan ufro meti gaqvT gasaxsenebeli Tu maswavlebelTa uflebebis dacvis kuTxiT?
– ukve vTqvi, rom CemTvis didi da patara saqme ar arsebobs. yvela saqme didia da SeZlebisdagvarad vcdilob, unaklod vakeTo. rogor gamomdis es, sxvebi gansjian. pedagogiur sarbielze yovelTvis vnaxulobdi CemTvis saintereso saqmes. maxsovs, goris dawyebiTi skolis gamge-maswavlebeli rom viyavi, Cveni saqmianoba ufro saintereso rom gamexada, saqarTvelos mTiani raionebis ganaTlebis ganyofilebebs werili davugzavne, vTxovdi, maTi dawyebiTi skolebis maswavleblebi da moswavleebi gamomxmaurebodnen. pirvelad yvarlis raionis Saqrianis dawyebiTi skola gamomexmaura. davamyareT megobruli urTierToba. moswavleebi werilebs werdnen Tanatolebs, TavianT saqmianobaze esaubrebodnen. maswavleblebic SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da gamocdileba gavuziareT. amiT didi da kargi saqme gakeTda. bavSvebma eseebis gamarTuli wera iswavles. erTmaneTs Seejibrnen. dResac maqvs Senaxuli maTi gamogzavnili werilebi. profesiul kavSirebSi saqmianoba ufro meti iniciativis saSualebas iZleva. aq pedagogTa interesebis, maTi SromiTi da samarTlebrivi uflebebis dacva da profesiuli ganviTarebisaTvis zrunva mTavari prioritetia. amas kulturul-gamajansaRebeli RonisZiebebic emateba da, rom ityvian, saqme Tavze sayrelia. marto SarSan maswavlebelTa profesiuli ganviTarebis da sasertifikacio gamocdebisTvis mosamzadebeli ocamde seminari CavatareT, romlebSic 250-ze metma maswavlebelma miiRo monawileoba, seminarebis xarjebi mTlianad Cvenma organizaciam dafara. tradiciad gvaqvs amagdar pedagogTa Rvawlisa da Sromis dafasebisadmi miZRvnili RonisZiebebis gamarTva, maTTvis sapatio sigelebisa da suvenirebis gadacema. Suaxevis resurscentris ufrosis baton eduard gograWaZisa da skolebis direqtorebis gamarTuli muSaobis, maswavlebelTa saqmianobis gaTvaliswinebiT ganxorcielebuli RonisZiebebis Sedegia, rom pedagogTa SromiTi da samarTlebrivi uflebebis dasacavad naklebi Sroma mWirdeba. iSviaTia skolebSi kanondarRvevis SemTxvevebi. Cveni profkavSirebi revoluciuri kataklizmebis periodSi gverdiT daudga maswavlebels. 90-ian wlebSi, roca maswavleblis xelfasi Zalian mcire iyo, SevZeliT da maT ufaso mgzavrobis bileTebi gadaveciT. erT xans xelisuflebam skolebis optimizacia da pedagogiuri kadrebis Semcirebis kampania wamoiwyo. Cven es procesebi SevaCerebineT. Tundac axla, maswavlebelTa karieruli winsvlis, maTTvis statusis amaRlebisTvis SemuSavebul sqemaSi, Cveni iniciativiT da xelisuflebis mxardaWeriT, bevri cvlileba Sevida maswavlebelTa sasikeTod.
– SarSan sazRvargareT imyofebodiT. ramdenad mniSvnelovani iyo es gasvla?
– profesiuli kavSirebis egidiT ori saerTaSoriso konferenciis monawile var. pirvelad, 2007 wlis maisSi, qalaq lvovSi gamarTul ganaTlebis muSakTa saerTaSoriso konferenciaze gaxldiT, sadac ganixileboda evropis qveynebSi erTiani ganaTlebis sistemis Seqmnis Taobaze boloniis SeTanxmeba, romelmac Cvens qveyanaSi 12-wlian swavlebas daudo safuZveli. SarSan belgiis qalaq lieJeSi gamarTul evropis profkavSirebis ganaTlebis komitetis konferenciaSi vmonawileobdi. konferenciaze yuradReba gamaxvilda profkavSirebis rolze, evropaSi inkluziuri da xarisxiani ganaTlebis sistemaze, mTavrobebsa da profkavSirebs Soris socialuri dialogis mniSvnelobaze. aSkarad gamoCnda evropaSi profkavSirebis didi roli da avtoriteti, mTavrobebisa da profkavSirebis konstruqciuli urTierTobebi da TanamSromloba, rac Cveni profkavSiruli saqmianobisTvisac mniSvnelovania.
– moZme ukraina omis qarcecxlSia gaxveuli. Tqveni organizacia ras akeTebs ukrainidan devnili pedagogebis da moswavleebis dasaxmareblad?
– es saSineleba rac SeiZleba male unda SeCerdes. Cvenma profkavSirma jer kidev gasuli wlis martSi 20 aTasi laris Rirebulebis sxvadasxva humanitaruli produqti gaugzavna ukrainel pedagogebs. lieJeSi yrilobis muSaobaSi monawileobda ukrainis ganaTlebisa da mecnierebis profkavSiris vice-prezidenti ola Cabunaki, romelic, mcirewlovan SvilTan erTad, avstriaSi ltolvilad imyofeba. Cveni profkavSiris prezidentma maia kobaxiZem evropis profkavSirebis konferenciaze daayena sakiTxi – ruseTis maswavlebelTa profkavSiri gairicxos evropis profkavSirebis gaerTianebidan, vinaidan putinis mxardamWeri, politizebuli profkavSiri ar unda iyos Cveni didi evropuli ojaxis wevri.
– sakmaod karg wamowyebas agrZelebT – ar iviwyebT amagdar pedagogebs.
– madlierebiT minda aRvniSno, rom srul mxardaWeras vgrZnobT saTavo profkavSiruli organizaciisgan, piradad Cveni profkavSiris prezident maia kobaxiZisgan da aWaris respublikuri organizaciis Tavmjdomare batoni aleqsandre beriZisgan. rom ara maTi Tanadgoma, SuaxevSi vercerTi Cveni iniciativa ver ganxorcieldeboda. mxars gviWeren da, SesaZleblobebis Sesabamisad, gvexmarebian kidec.
