,,თუ გვინდა გვეპატიოს, ჩვენც უნდა ვისწავლოთ სხვისი პატიება”
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Cveni stumaria xuloeli pedagogi, mentori maswavlebeli mzia kaxaZe.
– qalbatono mzia, erTi wlis win xuloSi pirvelma moipoveT mentori maswavleblis wodeba. drois am monakveTSi Tqvens saqmianobaSi arsebiTad ra Seicvala?
– mudmivad vzrunavdi da vzrunav kolegebis profesiul ganviTarebaze, aqtiurad var CarTuli zogadi ganaTlebis sferosa da saskolo sistemaSi mimdinare movlenebSi, vecnobi Tanamedrove profesiul literaturasa da saganmanaTleblo kvlevebs erovnul da globalur doneze, miRebul gamocdilebas viyeneb sakuTar pedagogiur praqtikaSi da aseve, mudmiv reJimSi vuziareb kolegebs ara mxolod skolis, aramed erovnul doneze – vgulisxmob Cem mier Seqmnil jgufSi Catarebul vebinarebs. monawileoba miviRe saerTaSoriso konferenciaSi ucxoel kolegebTan gamocdilebis gaziarebis mizniT.
– rogor SeafasebT Tanaraioneli kolegis roland SavaZis miRwevas, romelic 2022 wlis maswavleblis erovnuli jildos mflobeli gaxda?
– roland SavaZe maSin gavicani, roca aWaris ganaTlebis, kulturisa da sportis saministros programiT `aswavle momavali warmatebisTvis~ farglebSi maRalmTian sofelSi samuSaod Camovida. mas ar gasWirvebia Tavis damkvidreba, Tavisi SesaZleblobebis gamovlena da novaciebis Semotana skolaSi. axalgazrda maswavlebelia da energiis uzarmazari rezervi aqvs. misi SemarTeba, enTuziazmi gansxvavebulia imaTgan, visac skolaSi aTeulobiT wlebi aqvs gatarebuli. monawileobs saerTaSoriso proeqtebsa da konferenciebSi. 2021 wels amerikis saelCos programis gamarjvebuli gaxda da amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi – montanas Statis qalaq bouzmenis skolebSi imyofeboda eqvskviriani aradiplomirebuli akademiuri programiT, romelic unikalur SesaZleblobas aZlevs maswavleblebs, profesiulad ganviTardnen da swavlebis unar-Cvevebi gaiumjobeson. CemTvis da aramarto CemTvis, rolandi aris magaliTi, Tu rogori unda iyos 21-e saukunis maswavlebeli. igi filologiis mecnierebaTa doqtoria, paralelurad muSaobs bsu-Si miwveuli maswavleblis statusiT, CarTulia `zogadi ganaTlebis reformaSi~, dasawyisSi iyo xulos municipalitetSi koordinatori, Semdeg dainiSna ucxo enebis eqspertad. meamayeba, rom 2022 wlis maswavleblis erovnuli jildos mflobeli roland SavaZe gaxda, is saukeTeso da erT-erT lider maswavleblad aRiares, es pirveli SemTxvevaa, rom aWaras, kerZod xulos, hyavs gamarjvebuli.
– raa mTavari saxelis mosaxveWad da avtoritetis asamaRleblad?
– ginaxavT vinme, vinc arafers akeTebda imisTvis, rom warmatebuli yofiliyo da warmateba TavisiT mivida masTan? warmatebas aRwevs is, vinc saWiro dros saWiro saqmes akeTebs. vakeTeb im saqmes, romelic Zalian miyvars, amisgan jer me viReb udides siamovnebas da sxva adamianebi – sargeblobas. Cemi pirovnuli xasiaTi Seesabameba Cems profesias da es mxdis warmatebuls. vixarjebi bolomde, maqsimalurad viyeneb SesaZleblobebs, rac CemSia. avtoritets rac Seexeba, arasdros mizrunia mxolod sakuTari warmatebisTvis, `me~-s nacvlad SemiZlia vTqva `Cven~ da dRemde ase movdivar, davafuZne da vxelmZRvanelob jgufs `motivirebul pedagogTa klubi~, romelSic 64 000-ze meti maswavlebelia gawevrianebuli da romelic yvelaze mZlavri, mravalricxovani da funqciuri jgufia saqarTveloSi. aq erTmaneTs vuziarebT codnas da gamocdilebas, rac gvexmareba warmatebis miRwevaSi.
– bolo dros mraval Sekrebaze CanxarT. . .
– Cemi, rogorc mentori maswavleblis valdebulebaa, davamyaro kontaqtebi erovnul doneze sxva saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebebTan da organizaciebTan saukeTeso praqtikis danergvis da moswavleTa Sedegebis gaumjobesebis, aseve, sakuTari pedagogiuri praqtikis kolegebisTvis gaziarebis mizniT. amitomac siamovnebiT vTanxmdebi, rodesac mTavazoben sxvadasxva konferenciaSi momxseneblad gamosvlas. es xdeba erovnul da saerTaSoriso doneze. sxvagan Cems Tavs ver vxedav, sanam SemeZleba, viqnebi maswavlebeli da es ar aris ubralo saqmianoba.
– megobrebs irCevT Tu isini girCeven?
– mirCeven Tu virCev, amaze konkretulad ver gipasuxebT, radgan vfiqrob, es ormxrivi procesia. me socialuri adamiani var, mudmivad mWirdeba sxva adamianebTan urTierToba es iqneba ojaxuri, megobruli, samsaxurebrivi, profesiuli Tu sxva. gamomdinare aqedan, myavs uamravi megobari. viRacasTan urTierToba ubralo nacnobobiT daiwyo da Semdeg saerTo xedvebma da interesebma damaaxlova.
– saidan iRebs safuZvels Tqveni da lana benduqiZis megobroba?
– lana profesiiT xelovnebaTmcodnea, masTan didi xania vmegobrob, aris araerTi saintereso proeqtis iniciatori. gamomdinare iqidan, rom mec Zalian miyvars xelovneba, Cveni gzebic gadaikveTa erT-erTi proeqtis ganxorcielebisas. man Semoitana xelovnebaSi iseTi axali mimarTuleba, romelsac Tavad Searqva `impresionizmi ZafebSi~.
– qvelmoqmedebaze ras ityviT?
– Cems jgufSi xSirad tardeba saqvelmoqmedo seminarebi, Semosuli TanxiT ki vexmarebiT im adamianebs, visac es sWirdeba, CamonaTvali didia. bolos davexmareT kolegebs, romelTac janmrTelobis problemebi hqondaT. 5 000 lari gadavuricxeT erT-erT Tbilisel kolegas Svilis, romelic avtoavariis Sedegad daSavda, sazRvargareT mkurnalobisTvis. ukraineli bavSvebisTvisac gvqonda saqvelmoqmedo vebinarebi, 5 000 lari gadavricxeT.
– amas piradi danazogidan akeTebT Tu. . .
– rogorc zemoT aRvniSne, me da Cemi megobari, `motivirebul pedagogTa klubis~ TanadamfuZnebeli natalia TurqaZe viwvevT trenerebs, vatarebT fasian seminarebs da Semosul Tanxebs viyenebT saqvelmoqmedo miznebisTvis.
– ramdenad grCebaT dro ojaxisTvis?
– maRalmTian sofelSi cxovreba ioli ar aris, aq arseboba mxolod didi ZalisxmeviTa da mZime fizikuri SromiT aris SesaZlebeli. Tumca arCevanis winaSe – ojaxi Tu kariera – arasdros davmdgarvar, sabednierod, orives gavarTvi Tavi, radgan orive usazRvrod miyvars. roca giyvars, motivaciac gagaCnia, mTavari es aris. rogorc profesiaSi, ise ojaxur urTierTobebSi Zalian mniSvnelovania `gunduri muSaoba~, erTmaneTis mxardaWera, ndoba, siyvaruli da zogjer, kompromisze wasvlac.
– ra mesijs gaugzavniT im qveynis dedebs, kolegebs, romelic dRes omSia CarTuli?
– Cven sakuTar Tavze araerTxel gvaqvs gamocdili rusuli agresia, qarTvelma xalxma yvelaze ukeT icis, Tu ras ganicdian axla ukrainelebi. gamZleobas vusurveb ukrainel dedebs, dRes maTTvis Zalian mniSvnelovania rogorc moraluri, aseve finansuri mxardaWera. `motivirebul pedagogTa klubis~ gundis wevrebma mokrZalebuli wvlili SevitaneT maT dasaxmareblad – `ukrainel bavSvTa fondSi~ 5 000 lari gadavricxeT.
– moswavleebma kalendaruli axali wlis dawyeba rogor mogiloces?
– kompiuteruli teqnologiebis maswavlebeli var da TviTon vaswavli moswavleebs, rogor Seqmnan eleqtronuli misaloci baraTi. ra Tqma unda, yvela dResaswaulze, maT mier damzadebuli misaloci baraTis pirveli adresati me var. swored am formiT miviRe molocvebi Cemi moswavleebisagan,
– piroba, romelic aRsazrdelebs mieciT da dRemde subieqturma faqtorebma misi Sesruleba gadaavada?
– Cven, pedagogebi TiTqmis yvela gakveTilze vdebT pirobas aRsazrdelebTan, rom maT am gakveTilis Semdeg ecodinebaT: SeZleben, Seqmnian. . . vasruleb kidec. . .
– dabolos, raa mTavari, adamianebs erTmaneTis rom sjerodeT?
– mTavari aris ndoba. eWvi, es dabali, xolo ndoba – maRali, erTi da igive kibis safexurebia. roca RmerTma adamiani Seqmna da misca Tavisufleba, man gamoxata udidesi ndoba adamianis mimarT da miuxedavad imisa, rom adamiani am ndobas ar amarTlebs, RmerTi mainc endoba adamians. es unda viswavloT Cven – roca adamiani gvawyeninebs, imeds gagvicruebs, unda gavixsenoT, Tavad ramdenjer gagvicruebia imedi RmerTisTvis, adamianisTvis. Tu gvinda gvepatios, Cvenc unda viswavloT sxvisi patieba.

