როგორ გავუმკლავდეთ პოლიტიკურ და ეკონომიკურ გამოწვევებს, რომლებიც ჩვენი დროის თანმდევია?
ლაშა ხომერიკი 593 50 82 69
msoflio politikuri, ekonomikuri da cifruli gamowvevebis winaSe dgas. iwyeba axali msoflio wesrigis formireba, romelic mravali dramatuli movlenis fonze rTulad mimdinareobs. am etapze rogor gamoiyureba saqarTvelo da samomavlod raa umjobesi? swored am mniSvnelovan sakiTxze amaxvilebs yuradRebas am interviuSi dRevandeli nomris stumari, aWaris savaWro-samrewvelo palatis mrCeveli diplomatiur sakiTxebSi, axalgazrda biznesmenTa asociaciis Tavmjdomare, bsu-is doqtoranti (lingvistika-diplomatiur diskursSi) laSa bolqvaZe, romelic amave universitetSi miwveulia iaponuri enis leqtorad.
– dRevandeli msoflio axali realobis winaSea, esaa politikuri, ekonomikuri da cifruli gamowvevebi, rogor viTardeba movlenebi da raa gamosavali?
– realoba isaa, rom jer pandemiam da amas damatebulma ruseT-ukrainis omma garkveuli problemebisa da safrTxeebis winaSe dagvayena. virusma sakmaod moumzadebel mdgomareobaSi gamogviWira, xolo omma rTul da arasasurvel situaciaSi Cagvagdo rogorc adamianTa janmrTelobis, ise ekonomikuri kuTxiT. es globalizaciis procesia, romelsac axlavs rogorc dadebiTi, ise uaryofiTi faqtorebi.
– ras gulisxmobT?
– imas, rom am process SeuZlia politikuri, ekonomikuri krizisis Seqmna da am krizisis erTi qveynidan sxva qveynebSi gavrceleba. swored axla, samwuxarod, am mdgomareobaSi varT. amitom unda SevinarCunoT dRevandeli balansi da vecadoT arsebul problemebTan erToblivi ZalebiT gamklavebas. unda gaviTvaliswinoT da gamoviCinoT sifrTxile ama Tu im RonisZiebis gatarebisas, Sedegad ki miviRebT maRal dones, ukeTes ekonomikas, keTildReobis zrdas da arsebuli viTarebis gaumjobesebas. vfiqrob, rom es iqneba realuri gamosavali globalur problemebTan gasamklaveblad.
– pandemia Cacxra, misma gamowveulma krizisma didi zemoqmedeba moaxdina msoflioze, ra unda viswavloT amiT?
– mniSvnelovania, rom prioritetuli dargebi, gansakuTrebiT, usafrTxoeba, ar unda iyos droebiTi, aramed fundamenturi. kargi iqneba xelovnuri inteleqtis da jandacvis yvela mimarTulebis ganviTareba, rac mTavaria, soflis meurneobis wina planze wamoweva.
– ruseT-ukrainis omi mniSvnelovan gavlenas axdens axali msoflio wesrigis formirebis TvalsazrisiT. am mxriv procesebis rogor ganviTarebas elodebiT da rogor gesaxebaT saqarTvelos momavali ukrainis gamarjvebis an damarcxebis SemTxvevaSi?
– rogorc mogexsenebaT, saqarTvelo patara qveyanaa da moqceulia did Zalebs Soris. Sesabamisad, ar aris daculi. aseT fonze saqarTvelo yovelTvis unda iyos frTxilad. ukrainis mokavSireoba da masTan megobroba Zalian mniSvnelovania saqarTvelosTvis, masze asaxuli dadebiTi da uaryofiTi Sedegebi Cvenzec iqoniebs zemoqmedebas. Cveni qveyana yovelTvis iyo ruseTis interesebis sferoSi. ukrainis gamarjvebis SemTxvevaSi, cxadia, postsabWoTa qveynebisTvis axali SesaZleblobebi gamoikveTeba ruseTisgan Tavdaxsnis kuTxiT. am mxriv dasavleTma ufro meti zemoqmedeba unda moaxdinos ruseTze, raTa man morigi agresia ar ganaxorcielos sxva saxelmwifos mimarT. ukrainis damarcxebis SemTxvevaSi ki postsabWoTa qveynebisadmi ruseTis interesi ufro gaizrdeba.
– nabiji win, ori nabiji ukan – Cveni qveynis obieqturi realoba am frazas xom ar gvaxsenebs?
– Cveni qveynis ganviTarebas garemo faqtorebi da interesebi sagrZnoblad uSlis xels. me imedi maqvs, rom es fraza warsulSi darCeba da Cveni saxelmwifo mudmivad ganviTardeba.
– cvlilebebi drois moTxovnaa da am dialeqtikur kanonzomierebas ra obieqturi xelisSemSleli mizezebi xvdeba gzaze mTel msoflioSi da Cvens qveyanaSic?
– cvlilebebi yovelTvis aris saWiro da ara romelime konkretul situaciaSi. am etapisTvis xelisSemSlel faqtorad SeiZleba davasaxeloT ruseT-ukrainis omi, romelsac Tan axlavs cvalebadi, araprognozirebadi procesebi, romlebic qveynis Sida da gare diplomatiur-politikur, ekonomikur mdgomareobaze axdens gavlenas.
– dacarielebuli soflebi da Cveni moqalaqeebis ucxoeTSi gadineba ra gavlenas axdens eris momavalze?
– migracia saqarTvelos ganviTarebis yvela etapis Tanmdevi procesi iyo da dResac grZeldeba. soflebidan mosaxleobis gadineba Seuqcevadi procesi gaxda, es siaxles ar warmoadgens, Tumca bolo dros gavrcelebuli informacia gvafiqrebs. saqarTveloSi soflebi carieldeba. realoba sagangaSoa – es faqtia. amas xelisuflebac adasturebs, ris gamoc SemoiRes `mTis kanoni~. miuxedavad mcdelobisa, migraciisTvis xelis SeSla ver xerxdeba. problemebis Sesamcireblad saWiroa kvalificiuri kadrebis SenarCuneba, amisTvis ki maT saTanado pirobebi unda SevuqmnaT. aseve, mniSvnelovania saqarTvelos moqalaqeebisTvis samSobloSi dabrunebis waxaliseba da xelSewyoba.
– rogor SevinarCunoT erovnuli TviTmyofadoba, kargi tradiciebi da gavZlierdeT mentalurad? rogor davZlioT gaucxoeba da agresia, romlebmac bolo dros CvenSic imata?
– erovnuli TviTmyofadoba da tradiciebis SenarCuneba damokidebulia Cvens erovnul siZliereze. arcerT Cvengans ar aqvs am faseulobis dakargvis ufleba, vinaidan erTa TviTmyofadobis umTavresi faqtori swored kulturuli, tradiciuli komponentebia, amis gaqrobisken swrafvam ki SeiZleba mZime problemebis winaSe dagvayenos. Cven valdebulni varT, davicvaT Cveni erovnuli TviTmyofadoba. mniSvnelovania, rom qarTvelebs gvqondes saerTo idea da misi ganxorcielebisTvis ar daviSuroT Zalisxmeva.
– sazogadoebas aranakleb awuxebs kulturuli memkvidreoba da kulturul RirebulebaTa devalvaciac, ras fiqrobT?
– rogorc oTar WilaZe ambobs: `adamiani hgavs im qveyanas, romelsac misi samSoblo hqvia~. kulturuli memkvidreoba da Rirebulebebi qveynis individualizms, mis unikalurobas usvams xazs, amitomaa mniSvnelovani am memkvidreobis da Rirebulebebis dacva da SenarCuneba, rac Cvens ganviTarebas uwyobs xels.
– romeli cxovrebiseuli problemebis winaSe varT da risi mogvarebaa Tanamedrove saqarTveloSi yvelaze aucilebeli?
– saqarTvelos mosaxleoba mravalferovania. es gamoixateba religiuri, multikulturuli da socialur-ekonomikuri mdgomareobiT. xSir SemTxvevaSi vxvdebiT uTanasworobas, rac mosaxleobas uqmnis problemebs, Sedegad viRebT konfliqtur da polarul garemos. gamosavali sazogadoebis cnobierebis amaRleba, Tanabari pirobebis Seqmna da adamianis uflebebis dacvaa.
– cifruli gadatvirTva, Cveni saukunis es niSan-Tviseba rogorc ganviTarebis perspeqtiva da gamowveva da misi Tanxvedra adamianur resursebTan . . .
– teqnologiuri ganviTareba sazogadoebis momavlisTvis aucilebeli komponentia. es aris SesaZleblobebi, romlebic iZleva globaluri komunikaciis saSualebas. aseve SesaZlebeli gaxda warmoebis procesebis da samuSao Zalis avtomatizacia. cifruli samyaro Zalian swrafad viTardeba. am progresiT sazRvrebi da barierebi Semcirda. es aris Zala, romelmac SeZlo, Seecvala da gaeqro barierebi adamianebs Soris. adamianuri resursebis amocanebis Sesasruleblad mniSvnelovani Suamavlis rols asrulebs.
– dabolos, Cveni qveynis momavali rogor warmogidgeniaT, evrokavSiris wevrobis kandidatis statusis miReba saqarTvelos ra perspeqtivebs usaxavs da am mxriv polarizebuli garemo ramdenad damazianebelia saqarTvelosTvis?
– Cveni qveynis momavals vxedav evroatlantikur sivrceSi. kandidatis statusis miReba Zalian mniSvnelovania saqarTvelosTvis. es iqneba axali perspeqtiva, ufro meti investicia, standartebis amaRleba, infrastruqturis gaumjobeseba, mxardaWeris gazrda, jandacvis da sxva mravali finansuri, ekonomikuri, diplomatiuri urTierTobebis ganviTareba. saqarTvelos mimarT dasavleTi ufro dainteresebuli da mobilizebuli iqneba. rac Seexeba polarizebas, dRevandeli problemebis mTavari mizezi swored polarizebaa, rac qveynis ganviTarebas sagrZnoblad uSlis xels.
