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arian adamianebi, romelTac sakmarisia, erTxel SexvdeT, esaubroT da xvdebiT, rom misi sikeTe da samyarosadmi siyvaruli ganusazRvrelia. swored aseT adamians – poet jemal surmaniZes ufro axlos gagacnoT dRes, kacs, romlis mTavari safiqrali samSoblo, mTavari sazrunavi ki irgvliv myofTaTvis uangaro siyvarulis gacemaa.
– amqveynad mosvla imisTvis Rirda, rom . . .
– ise unda icxovro, Rirdes gardacvaleba – xazgasmuli maqvs erTgan. Rirs imitomac, rom samSoblos, ojaxis da zneobis Rirebulebebi gasuldgmulebs, Seni qmnilebebiT `gulis qoxSi~ ifareb adamianebs . . . `aq saxeliT cxovrebaa im qveynadac mTavari~ – vambob erT-erT leqsSi, anu amqveyniuri da imqveyniuri samyarosTvis umTavresi erTi da igive faseulobaa.
– bavSvobis droindeli kadri, romelzec yvelaze xSirad gifiqriaT da mognatrebiaT . . .
– merve klasSi viyavi, sazafxulo ardadegebze pirveli xelfasi rom gamovimuSave da nanatri tranzistori SeviZine. swored maSin momeca SesaZlebloba, vziarebodi mZime roks, momesmina akrZaluli `amerikis xma~. albaT, Zvelmodurad JRers, magram Cemi TaobisTvis akrZalul xilze wvdomis siZneles erTgvari xibli hqonda. kidev . . . kargad maxsovs 1970 wlis meqsikis msoflio Cempionati fexburTSi, roca 12 wlis ymawvili gvian RamiT, Sav-TeTr gamosaxulebaSi peles, tostaos, rivelinosa da sxva varskvlavebs pirdapir eTerSi vuyurebdi. mas Semdeg fexburTi sportis Cemi favoriti saxeobaa. yvelaze tkbilad mainc dasavleT ukrainaSi, samxedro samsaxurSi yofnis periodi maxsendeba, roca bebia-babuam CamomakiTxes.
– cxovreba hgavs . . .
– cxovreba, nawilobriv, uantraqto Teatrs hgavs, survilebis axdeniTa da imedgacruebebiT:
`yvela mizans ver aixden,
gind asakiT gaxde asis,
am dilemis gadamkides
Seucnobi gvrCeba dasi,
mainc veliT mogvecema
sawuTroSi wvdomis `pasi~,
uflis mier mitevebis,
Secdomebze swavlis Sansi,
rom burTma ar gadakveTos
TamaSgares TeTri xazi~.
aseTia Cemi TvaliT danaxuli cxovrebis versia.
– bednieri var, roca . . .
– SviliSvilebTan urTierTobiT vtkbebi. am dros cnobierebaSi bavSvoba mibrundeba. srul WeSmaritebas brZanebda goeTe: `vin Tqva, sibere bavSvobisken ukusvlaao, piriqiT, sulis amoxdamde bavSvebad vrCebiT~. ufali gvmoZRvravs, emsgavseT bavSvebso. ver warmoidgenT, raoden bednieri var, roca ramdenime Tvis SviliSvils veferebi, sabavSvo leqsebs vukiTxav. misi gafarToebuli TvalebiT mzerasa da JRurtuls veraferi Seedreba.
– mxolod erTi leqsi rom iyos Tqveni Semoqmedeba . . .
– arian Semoqmedebi, mexsierebas erTi leqsiT rom SemorCnen, magram, Cemi azriT, imdenad mouxelTebelia muza, rom erTi leqsis CarCoSi ver Caeteva.
– yvelaze metad ra xdis adamians mSveniers?
– siyvarulis niWi.
– adamiani adamianisTvis . . .
– unda iyos nugeSisa da Tanadgomis gamomxatveli, rasac ver vityviT Cvens realobaze. yofiT damZimebuli gulebis mofrTxileba unda viswavloT. erTi cida qveyana gvaqvs, isedac erTi xelis gawvdena wuTisoflad. mteri rom avi zraxvebiTaa Cven mimarT, sulac ar makvirvebs. gautanlobiTa da ZmaTa Soris qiSpiT ufro Cveni geni meqca gamocanad, TviTmkurnalobas rom saWiroebs.
– STabeWdileba, romelic arasdros gtovebT . . .
– Tbilisis `dinamos~ fexburTelTa mier evropis Tasebis mflobelTa Tasis daufleba 1981 wels, mTeli qveyana rom aRafrTovana.
– gameoreba rom SeiZlebodes . . .
– albaT, igive gzas gavivlidi.
– tkivili, romelTan erTadac cxovreba iswavleT . . .
– tkivili, rac umcrosi qaliSvilis – irinas amqveynidan udrood wasvlis gamo ganvicadeT, mudmivad Tan maxlavs. Wriloba Riaa, magram ufali gvaZlebinebs, rom am tkivilTan erTad vicxovroT. drodadro vexmianebi irinas suls. erT-erT miZRvnaSi vambob:
`axla xandaxan mecxadebi lamaz
sizmrebad,
gumbaTis zari axmianebs saflavis kides,
qalaqi, Sen rom dagitira, aqvea kidev
da gulSi dRemde moSriale gedis
simRera~.
– RmerTTan Sexvedris saSualeba rom gqondeT, raze esaubrebodiT an ras sTxovdiT?
– misatevebeli momitevos da sawyalobeli miwyalobos.
– ras niSnavs baTumi TqvenTvis?
– is Cemi saficari qalaqia. sanapiros quCebs rom Cavuvli, biWuri gulis Zgera mewyeba. Cemi qalaqi Tvalsa da xels Sua ise icvlis samosels, asaks ver Seatyob. Zveli ubnebi ufro mimozebis droindel, adreul iersaxes Segaxsenebs. baTumze aWaris televiziaSi muSaobisas videoartebi mimiZRvnia, araerTi leqsi damiweria. igi iyo, aris da iqneba Cemi STagonebis wyaro.
– romelia TqvenTvis yvelaze baTumuri ambavi?
– yvelaze baTumuri ambis CamonaTvalSi, vfiqrob, saxsenebelia 1983 wlis 12 noemberi, roca baTumis `dinamos~ fexburTelebma pirveli ligis sagzuri moipoves. mTeli matCis ganmavlobaSi kokispirulad wvimda, magram, gawuwvis miuxedavad, aTi aTasobiT gulSematkivridan stadioni aravis dautovebia.
– interesi, romelic arasdros gagnelebiaT?
– yovelTvis mqonda interesi ferweris mimarT, magram gangebam es niWi ar marguna. samagierod, Cems ufros SviliSvilSi – sesilSi aRmovaCine mxatvrobis talanti da gamimarTla. zogierTi misi naxati amJamad Cemi saxlis kedels amSvenebs.
– samSoblo aris . . .
– fiqri, sazrunavi, aRtyineba, siyvaruli.
– vnanob . . .
– sruli SesaZlebloba mqonda, profiliT samecniero xarisxi damecva, magram ratomRac mondomeba mivakeli.
– poezia Tu proza?
– kalami prozaSic vcade, erTi dokumenturi moTxrobis avtori var, rac mkiTxvelma gulTbilad miiRo. magram Cemi hobi mainc poeziaa. vfiqrob, azris gamoxatva am JanrSi ukeTesad SemiZlia.
– mas etyodiT, rom . . .
– isev iseve miyvars, rogorc Cveni gacnobis dRidan, vafaseb masTan erTad gatarebul wlebs. madloba Svilebis kargad aRzrdisTvis da SviliSvilebze zrunvisTvis.
`yvelaze metad msurs . . .
rac ar unda amisruldes,
mainc mrCeba erTi natvra
suli sevdas eurCeba,
rogorc Zvel roms kleopatra~.
– vwerdi odesRac… dRevandeli gadasaxedidan yvelaze metad msurs SviliSvilebma safuZvliani ganaTleba miiRon, asaxelon Cveni qveyana. es iqneba CemTvis yvelaze didi jildo da aRiareba, imis libo da safuZveli, rom fuWad ar micxovria. isini jer kidev patarebi arian da mjera, droTa ganmavlobaSi miZRvnili sabavSvo leqsebi erTgvari gzamkvlevi gaxdeba maTTvis.
– wlebis Semdeg minda, Cemze Tqvan . . .
– moviSvelieb cnobil frazas:
`aqac kargi kaci iyo, iq naTeli daadgesa~.
