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aqsiomaa, rom keTilgonieri, ganswavluli, patrioti axalgazrdoba qveynis progress ganapirobebs da rodesac es WeSmariteba kargad aqvs gacnobierebuli saganmanaTleblo kerebs, axalgazrdebis profesiuli zrdisa da ganviTarebisTvis araerTi warmatebuli proeqtis ganxorcielebas uwyobs xels. sagulisxmoa, rom am procesebSi TviT axalgazrdebi didi aqtiurobiT gamoirCevian, bevri maTgani mniSvnelovan aqtivobebSia CarTuli. erT-erTi maTgania bsu-is saerTaSoriso urTierTobis fakultetis mesame kursis studenti goga bauJaZe axalgazrduli organizaciis (`axalgazrdebi saqarTvelosTvis~) damfuZnebeli, igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– TiTqmis erTi welia, rac axalgazrduli organizacia `axalgazrdebi saqarTvelosTvis~ CamoayalibeT, am xnis ganmavlobaSi ra aqtivobebi ganaxorcieleT?
– erTi weli, marTlac, didi droa imisaTvis, rom bevri mogveswro. aRsaniSnavia, rom CarTuli viyaviT sxvadasxva saganmanaTleblo RonisZiebasa Tu forumSi, `saqarTvelos axalgazrduli samiti 2022~-is Semdeg baTumis `saWadrako klub nonasTan~ erTad CavatareT sauniversiteto turniri WadrakSi, gamarjvebulni dajildovdnen TasiT, medlebiTa da sertifikatebiT. aRsaniSnavia isic, rom drois umetesi nawili sakuTari Tavis ganviTarebas davuTmeT, radgan sakmaod farTomasStabian proeqts vgegmavT, kargad gvesmis, rom amaSi didi Sromis Cadeba mogviwevs da saWiroa sakuTari Tavis ukeTesi variantebi gavxdeT. imasac vityvi, rom TiToeulma Cvenganma aRmoaCina is dafaruli unar-Cvevebi, romlebic gvexmareba saqmeSi.
– vici, rom apirebT axali proeqtis – `daiwye da ganaviTare Seni biznesi~ dawyebas, gviambeT amis Sesaxeb.
– mogexsenebaT, gasul wels, baTumSi ganxorcielda 5-dRiani treningi `daiwye da ganaviTare Seni biznesi~, romlis mizani gaxldaT axalgazrda, potenciuri da arsebuli mewarmeebis mxardaWera biznesis dawyebaSi, am proeqtSi SeviZine, marTlac, saWiro da mniSvnelovani gamocdileba, unar-Cvevebi, rac mexmareba im mniSvnelovani saqmeebis ganxorcielebaSi, rasac gundi erTad vgegmavT. Cveni umTavresi mizani da amocanaa saganmanaTleblo RonisZiebebis gamarTva universitetis masStabiT. swored mocemuli mimarTulebiT vgegmavT Semdeg proeqts, romelSic vapirebT ara mxolod studentebis, aramed abiturientebis CarTvasac mTeli municipalitetis masStabiT. es axalgazrdebs xels Seuwyobs araformaluri ganaTlebis SemecnebaSi. mogexsenebaT, Cemi organizacia dakompleqtebulia baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelobis saxelmwifo universitetis studentebiT. gaerTianeba, ZiriTadad, moicavs iuridiul da socialur mecnierebaTa da humanitarul mecnierebaTa fakultetebis studentebs. is gamorCeuli axalgazrdebi, visTan erTadac vmuSaob, arian: TamTa jafariZe, Tamuna noRaideli, giorgi bolqvaZe da Salva SalikaZe. Aaseve, Cvens SemadgenlobaSia universitetis 20-mde studenti, samomavlod vapirebT gafarToebas da axali wevrebis miRebas.
– rogorc vici, bsu-Si yovelwliurad imarTeba Jan mones studenturi konferencia, wels ra Temas mieZRvna da konferenciis monawileTa Sesaxeb ras ityodiT?
– wels Jan mones studenturi konferenciis Tema iyo `demokratia, kanonis uzenaesoba da adamianis uflebebis dacva evrokavSirSi~. konferenciis monawileebma warmoadgines moxsenebebi evropis kavSiris ZiriTadi Rirebulebebis, adamianis uflebebis, evropuli integraciis, evrokavSirSi demokratiis, kargi mmarTvelobis, aRmosavleT partniorobis da sxva aqtualur sakiTxebze. konferenciis farglebSi, ganxilul sakiTxebTan dakavSirebiT gaimarTa diskusia. Cemi da Cemi kolega Salva SalikaZis sakonferencio Tema gaxldaT – `evrokavSiri – kandidatis statusi da saqarTvelo~, sadac ganvixileT is perspeqtivebi, romelic gaaCnia saqarTvelos evrokavSirTan mimarTebiT. konferenciaSi monawileobdnen rogorc baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis, aseve, ivane javaxiSvilis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis da ukrainis, sumis makarenkos saxelobis saxelmwifo pedagogiuri universitetis studentebi.
– rogorc cnobilia, rusuli propagandis umTavresi xazi evropul Rirebulebebze mcdari diskursis gaRvivebaa, Cveni axalgazrdebi ramdenad garkveuli arian rusuli propagandis arsSi?
– axalgazrdebs kargad gvesmis, rom ruseTis federacia sul ufro efeqtianad iyenebs propagandas sxvadasxva qveyanaSi sakuTari interesebis gasatareblad. am mxriv, unda aRvniSno mediasaSualebebi, romlebic saqarTveloSi kremlis propagandis ZiriTadi sayrdenia. minimum, erTi televizia, ramdenime internettelevizia, beWduri gamocema da vebgverdi gamoirCeva antidasavluri `mesij-boqsiT~ da informaciis gavrcelebisas, ZiriTadad, rusul wyaroebs eyrdnoba. TvalSisacemia rusuli propagandis gamavrceleblebis mier socialuri qselebis aqtiuri gamoyenebac, rodesac xdeba dezinformaciis an antidasavluri narativis Semcveli internetmasalebis virusuli gavrceleba. amasTan dakavSirebiT gavixseneb imasac, rom gasul wels vamzadebdi sakonferencio naSroms afxazeTis Temaze da roca gadavavle Tvali rusul medias, amovikiTxe Semdegi propagandiseuli nawili, rom `saqarTvelos mier iyo okupirebuli afxazeTi da igi rusebma gaaTavisufles~, saRad moazrovne Taobam ki viciT, rom ruseTi okupantia da man daipyro saqarTvelos 20%. isic unda iTqvas, rom marTalia, politikuri miznebis misaRwevad kremlis propaganda ar aris axali movlena, Tumca misi xarisxi da masStabebi bolo wlebis ganmavlobaSi mniSvnelovnad gaizarda.
– rogor Seicvala da viTardeboda axalgazrdoba wlebis ganmavlobaSi saqarTveloSi, ra sxvaobaa dRevandel da Tundac 90-iani wlebis axalgazrdebs Soris?
– sakmaod mniSvnelovani kiTxvaa. 90-iani wlebidan dRemde axalgazrdoba sakmaod Seicvala, rac rigi faqtorebiT aris ganpirobebuli. piradad me mimaCnia, rom udidesi gansxvaveba da Sedegia sityvisa da gamoxatvis Tavisufleba, rac sabWoTa kavSiris axalgazrdebisTvis miuRweveli iyo, sabWoTa manqana ise muSaobda, rom sazogadoebas kiTxvebi ar gasCenoda, mas simarTlisa da tyuilis iseT marcvlebs awvdidnen, romelsac ar mohyveboda aranairi SekiTxva. dRes ki Zveli Taobisgan gansxvavebiT, daviwyeT kiTxvebis dasma, rac ganviTarebisTvis umniSvnelovanesia.
– dRes axalgazrdebi, marTlac, bevr kiTxvas svamen. ras Seexeba isini da Tavadve Tu cdiloben maTze pasuxis gacemas?
– kiTxvis dasma umniSvnelovanesi pirveli nabijia simarTlis povnisken. dRevandeli axalgazrdebi uamrav kiTxvas svamen, ZiriTadad isini iReben pasuxs, magram umeteswilad aradamakmayofilebels. amitom mudmivad siaxleebis ZiebaSi varT, rac marTlac, gvWirdeba. studentebis mTavari safiqrali da kiTxvaa, rogor realizdnen ukeT, radgan cxovrebis im etapze imyofebian, roca unda airCion samomavlo gza. rig SemTxvevebSi pasuxi metad aradamakmayofilebelia, rac axalgazrdebSi nihilizms iwvevs, magram sakmaod mebrZoli Taoba varT da mudam vcdilobT, gamosavali TviTonve vipovoT.
– cxadia, yvela epoqas Tavisi gamowveva aqvs, mentaluri gamowveva ramdenad aqtualuria am segmentisTvis?
– vfiqrob, sakmaod aqtualuri problemaa mentaluri gamowvevebi dRes saqarTveloSi. ufro metic, mentaluri problemebi gaamwvava koronavirusis periodmac. pandemiam Secvala yvelaferi, axalgazrdebis fsiqikur janmrTelobaze negatiuri gavlena moaxdina, daukarga maT motivacia da waarTva SesaZleblobebi. uamravma axalgazrdam SeiCera studentis aqtiuri statusi. kovidpandemiam axalgazrdebs garToba-dasvenebis SesaZleblobac waarTva. es yvelaferi uaryofiTad aisaxa maT mentalur mdgomareobaze da miuxedavad imisa, rom karga xania gvaqvs saauditorio procesSi dabrunebis bedniereba, axalgazrdebSi dResac ki SeimCneva pandemiis mwvave Sedegi. Cemi gundis ZiriTadi motivaciac swored is iyo, rom arsebuli cudi mdgomareobidan gamosavali mogveZebna da axalgazrdebisTvis migveca is SesaZleblobebi, romlebic pandemiam waarTva. vfiqrob, mizans sakmaod kargadac vasrulebT.
– ra SesaZleblobebi aqvT saqarTveloSi motivirebul axalgazrdebs, raTa mividnen sasurvel Sedegebamde?
– aWaris regionSi marTlac uamravi SesaZleblobaa, rom axalgazrdebma mivaRwioT sasurvel Sedegs. mTavari, ra Tqma unda, survili da mondomebaa. arsebobs uamravi axalgazrduli centri, romlebic gvaZleven SesaZleblobas, CaverToT araformalur ganaTlebaSi da miviRoT mniSvnelovani informacia, romelic gvexmareba sakuTari Tavis ganviTarebasa da ukeT warmoCenaSi. aseve, baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universiteti axalgazrdebs gvaZlevs uamrav SesaZleblobas Cveni TviTrealizaciisTvis.
– sainteresoa qveynis qalaqebsa da raionebSi mowyobili Tu aris iseTi sivrceebi, sadac SesaZlebelia axalgazrdebma Sexvedrebi, RonisZiebebi gamarTon?
– axalgazrdebisTvis marTlac, mniSvnelovania axalgazrduli sivrceebi, sadac SeeZlebaT, Seikribon da isaubron maTTvis mniSvnelovan siaxleebsa Tu gamowvevebze. baTumis masStabiT arsebobs ramdenime klubi da gaerTianeba, romelic axalgazrdebis ganviTarebasa da sworad gazrdas uwyobs xels. aseTia axalgazrdobis regionuli centri, romelsac gaaCnia axalgazrduli klubi, sadac uamravi axalgazrdaa gaerTianebuli da sxvadasxva aqtivobas gegmavs da axorcielebs. aucilebelia aqve aRvniSno `wiTeli jvari~, romelSic uamravi axalgazrda erTiandeba keTili saqmeebisTvis, aseve aris ramdenime axalgazrduli sivrce, sadac ikribebian axalgazrdebi, gegmaven da axorcieleben axalgazrdul proeqtebs.
– axalgazrdebi ufro metad rom CaerTon qveynisTvis mniSvnelovani sakiTxebis gadawyvetaSi, ra aris saWiro?
– upirveles yovlisa, saWiroa ufro meti araformaluri ganaTlebis kerebi, romlebic axalgazrdebs gvaZlevs udides SesaZleblobas, CaverToT regionSi mimdinare procesebSi, rac gvayalibebs srulfasovan, pasuxismgeblian moqalaqeebad, romlebsac aqvT codna da gamocdileba, raTa marTon da Secvalon arsebuli mdgomareoba.
– dabolos, romeli cxovrebiseuli problemis gadawyveta migaCniaT Tanamedrove pirobebSi yvelaze saSurad?
– vfiqrob, axalgazrdebisTvis yvelaze mniSvnelovani problema aris TviTrealizacia da Tavis damkvidreba Sromis bazarze, rac ar aris martivi, miuxedavad imisa, rom axalgazrdebs aqvT ganviTarebis, swavlisa da Sesabamisi xarisxis miRebis SesaZleblobac, magram mainc dausaqmebelni rCebian. swored am problemis aRmosafxvrelad aris saukeTeso gza araformaluri ganaTleba, radgan es axalgazrdas exmareba sakuTari Tavis ukeT warmoCenaSi, masSi damaluli niWis gaRviZebaSi da ufro metic, sakuTari Tavis povnaSi, vinaidan adamianebi xSirad maTTvis uintereso da Seusabamo profesiaze swavloben. sabolood, Zalian cud Sedegs imkian, profesiis arCevisas adamianebma unda miiRon racionaluri gadawyvetileba, kargad Seafason, pirvel rigSi, sakuTari Tavi da aseve SromiTi bazari, Semdgom ki SeiZinon iseTi profesia, rac maT daexmareba, Rirseul pirobebSi dasaqmdnen da akeTon maTi sayvareli saqme stabilurad. bolos ki minda moviyvano jon kenedis sityvebi: `nu ikiTxavT, ra SeuZlia gaakeTos qveyanam TqvenTvis, ikiTxeT, ra SegiZliaT gaakeToT misTvis~. swored aseTi midgomiT da azrovnebiT SeeZleba qveyanas miaRwios sasurvel Sedegebs, yvela Cveni Tanamoqalaqis CarTulobiT.