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baTumeli qalbatoni, bsu-is profesori, literaturaTmcodne, rusTvelologi, mkvlevari Sorena maxaWaZe gansakuTrebuli da gamorCeulia pirovnuli mSvenierebiT, didi codniT da humanurobiT, siaxlisken swrafviTa da SemoqmedebiTi ZiebiT. . . visac Tundac erTxel misi sajaro leqciebi mousmenia `vefxistyaosanze~, SeuZlebelia, Rrma pativiscemiT ar ganewyos misdami. niSandoblivia isic, rom qalbaton Sorenas didi wvlili Seaqvs Tanamedrove literaturuli procesebis kvlevaSi. mis mimarT interesi da siyvaruli ara marto baTumSi, aramed sruliad saqarTveloSi dRiTi dRe izrdeba. ubadlo oratoris, brZeni, qarizmatuli pirovnebis es interviuc am ganwyobis gamoZaxilia.
– qalbatono Sorena, sazogadoebisaTvis Zalian cnobili da pativsacemi, aRiarebuli pirovneba xarT, mecnieri, gamorCeuli mkvlevari. . . Cvens qalaqSic da mTel saqarTveloSi sixaruliT ismenen Tqvens sajaro leqciebs. . . rogori iyo pirveli nabijebi am did gzaze?
– batono laSa, upirveles yovlisa, didi madloba piradad Tqven da Cveni mSobliuri, sayvarel gazeT `aWaris~ redaqcias Cemi mokrZalebuli personiT dainteresebisTvis. rac Seexeba pirvel nabijebs, sruliad Cveulebrivi iyo. gavizarde maswavleblebis ojaxSi. deda – aiSe verZaZe, qarTuli enisa da literaturis maswavlebeli iyo, mama – niaz maxaWaZe, maTematikis. isini im Taobis warmomadgenlebi iyvnen, araprofesionalizmi rom sircxvilad miaCndaT. ukve asakSi var da dResac aWaraSi micnoben, rogorc aiSe da niaz maswavleblebis Svils, rac Zalian meamayeba. Cvens ojaxSi saubrisa da gansjis Temac mudmivad skola da moswavleebi iyo. bunebrivia, roca aseT garemoSi izrdebi, bavSvobidan, megobrebTan erTad, skolobanas TamaSob, profesiadac pedagogobas irCev. Cems SemTxvevaSic ase moxda: skola-pedinstituti-aspirantura, araferi gansakuTrebuli.
– literaturaTmcodne, kritikosi, romelic ise Tavdauzogavad da nayofierad Sromobdes, rogorc Tqven, iSviaTia. Tqveni pirovnuli siZlieris wyaro. . .
– cxovrebis yvela etapze iyo da aris Cemi ojaxi, romelic mudam gverdiT midgas. merwmuneT, amis gareSe verafers SevZlebdi. vaRiaroT, qalebisTvis gansakuTrebiT rTulia ojaxisa da samsaxuris, Tundac, mecnieruli muSaobis SeTavseba. Svilebs gazrda da aRzrda sWirdebaT, amas emateba uamravi sayofacxovrebo problema, romelic Cvens, jer kidev mouwesrigebel yoveldRiurobaSi, blomad gvaqvs, miT umetes, gvqonda im marTla avadsaxsenebel, bnel da duxWir 90-ianebSi, roca 10 kvercxis fasad mTeli Tve vmuSaobdiT. dedaCems rom Cemi ori SvilisTvis ar moevlo mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi, an meuRles rom xeli ar Seewyo CemTvis, roca TbilisSi naSromze vmuSaobdi, disertacia – `miTi da realoba `daTa TuTaSxiaSi~ – dResac ar meqneboda daweril-daculi. verc Cemi mozrdilformatiani krebuli – `pirvelad iyo sityva~ daibeWdeboda Cemi, Tundac, profesoris xelfasiT, Cems siZes – beso JRents rom ar daefinansebina.
– Tqveni wigni `pirvelad iyo sityva~, gamokvlevebi da recenziebi aWaraSi moRvawe mwerlebze, Cvens kuTxeSi mxatvruli sityvis ganviTarebis suraTs gadagviSlis. amasTan dakavSirebiT, daskvnis saxiT, gagvacaniT Tqveni STabeWdilebebi da samomavlo perspeqtivebi.
– `pirvelad iyo sityva~ 2019 wels daibeWda. masSi, faqtobrivad, Tavi movuyare yvela im naSroms, romlebzec wlebis ganmavlobaSi vmuSaobdi, Sesabamisad, misi Tematika mravalferovania: masSi SexvdebiT rogorc gasuli saukunis 20-30-ian wlebSi, aseve postmodernistul epoqaSi Seqmnili teqstebis analizs. Sevecade, wignSi damexata meoce saukunis samyaros suraTica da litTeoriaTa palitrac, aseve, mimovixile miTologiuri Teoriebi, yuradReba gavamaxvile e.w. ottepelsa da 60-70-iani wlebis mwerlobis rolze qarTuli literaturis istoriaSi. Tqven sworad SeginiSnavT: krebulSi calke nawili eTmoba aWaraSi moRvawe qarTveli mwerlebis Semoqmedebas, romelic davasaTaure ase: `da sityva iyo RmerTi~, radgan, Tu did fridon xalvaSs davesesxebi: `aWaraSi qarTuli ena iyo umTavresi religia. . . aWaris cxovrebaSi mwerlobis roli TviT politikur sistemaTa rolzec ufro didmniSvnelovani iyo~. ra Tqma unda, is suraTi, romelic Cemi statiebis mixedviT gamoikveTa, arasrulyofilia – samwuxarod, bevri mniSvnelovani Semoqmedi darCa am wignis miRma. amJamad vamzadeb axal krebuls aWaraSi moRvawe mwerlebis Semoqmedebis Sesaxeb da imedia, am xarvezs, nawilobriv mainc, Sevavseb. aqve davamateb, rom qarTuli kritika, litmecniereba namdvilad valSia aWaris mwerlebis winaSe.
– erTi brZeni ambobda, kritika `hosa~ da `aras~ Tqmaao. . . iziarebT am Sexedulebas? rogorc viciT, `ho~ bevrs uTxariT, albaT – `arac~.
– axla Cemi usayvarlesi nodar dumbaZis xumrobanarevi sityvebis perifrazs gavixseneb: literaturuli kritika iseve exmareba mwerlebs ganviTarebaSi, rogorc astronomia – planetebs moZraobaSio. mogexsenebaT, yvela xumroba Seicavs simarTlis marcvals. swored amitom: vkiTxulob imas, rac momwons, vwer imis Sesaxeb, rac momwons da romelzec Tamamad SemiZlia `hos~ Tqma. ra Tqma unda, vambob Zalian mtkice `aras~, roca mxvdeba da, saubedurod, dRes es araiSviaTia, epataJuri, vulgarizmebiT, skabreziT, cinizmiTa da yvelafer qarTulis, tradiciulisadmi zizRiTa da siZulviliT savse, ra davarqva, ar vici, cruliberaluri, cruliteraturuli teqstebi. marTalia, `usircxvilos Tu ar arcxven, baZiT morcxvic gaurcxvdeso~, magram msgavs `mwerlebze~ aranairi Sercxvena ar moqmedebs, miT umetes, Tavisi madidebeli kritikosebic hyavT da maTTan kamaTs azri ar aqvs, am xanmokle wuTisoflis mzian da ferad dReebs dagakargvinebs mxolod. mjera, xelovnebisTvis dro aris yvelaze didi kritikosica da yvelaze mkacri da samarTliani ganmsjel-damsjelic, is arqmevs TeTrs – TeTrs, Savs kidev – Savs.
– xom ar fiqrobT, rom dRes ufro meti wers, vidre kiTxulobs? mdare erzacliteraturam lamis wagvleka. gamosavali?
– absoluturad geTanxmebiT. kargad TqviT, mdare erzacliteratura mogveZala. me universitetSi vaswavli rusTvelologias da meoce saukunis qarTul literaturas. warmoidgineT Cemi gaoceba, roca studenti-filologi, meore an meoTxekurseli, romelsac `vefxistyaosani~ da, vTqvaT, `daTa TuTaSxia~ verafriT wavakiTxe, mesamed rCeba sagani, ambiciurad micxadebs, rom is mweralia (Turme muSaobs prozaSic, poeziaSic!) da ra gaxda es Cemi sagani?! isev Cveni `mziani gulis~, uganaTlebulesi Semoqmedis anekdoti maxsendeba: Cven, batono, mwerlebi varT, mkiTxvelebi ki arao. sasaciloa, satirali rom ar iyos! meti ra giTxraT… rac Seexeba erzacliteraturidan gamosavals, zemoT ukve mogaxseneT: mivendoT saukeTeso msajulis – drois obieqturobas.
– Tqveni sajaro leqciebi `vefxistyaosanze~ bevrs izidavs. globalizaciis fonze es nawarmoebi rogor sacnaurdeba TanamedroveTa warmodgenaSi da ra roli miuZRvis nawarmoebis mxatvrul aRqmasa da gaazrebaSi gaxmaurebul mobilur aplikacias, `vefxistyaosnis~ aplikaciis gundma rom SeimuSava? misi avtori xom Tqveni SviliSvili, studenti koba JRentia. . .
– batono laSa, didi madloba am kiTxvisTvis. es proeqti Zalian Zvirfasia CemTvis. jer erTi, imitom, rom es Cems pirvel da ganumeorebel siyvaruls – `vefxistyaosans~ exeba da meore, imitom, rom is Cems, yalbi Tavmdablobis gareSe vityvi, mravalmxrivi SemoqmedebiTi niWiTa da unarebiT dajildoebul SviliSvils – koba JRents ekuTvnis. 16 wlis iyo, roca skolaSi `vefxistyaosans~ swavlobda. misTvis da misi TanaklaselebisTvis bevri sityva, fraza gaugebari iyo. xan me mekiTxeboda, xan wignebSi eZebda, magram me baTumSi viyavi, is – TbilisSi da amitom minivirtualur gakveTilebs vutarebdi. mokled, am Tavisma `gasaWirma~ miiyvana mobiluri aplikaciis Seqmnis ideamde, miT umetes, rom xedavda, axalgazrdebi mobilur telefonebze rogor iyvnen mijaWvulni. kobamac gadawyvita, mobiluri da `vefxistyaosani~ daekavSirebina erTmaneTTan. Tavdapirvelad, roca es idea gamacno da daxmareba mTxova, sastiki uari miiRo. saqme isaa, rom yovelTvis mkrexelobad mimaCnda `vefxistyaosnis~ umSvenieresi teqstis adaptireba, magram kobas aRmoaCnda sakuTari mosazrebis argumentirebis SesaniSnavi unaric. amasTan, mogexsenebaT, bebiebi sayvarel SviliSvilebs Txovnaze uars ver veubnebiT da. . . ase daiwyo bebia-SviliSvilis saqmiani TanamSromloba, romelic dResac grZeldeba. Cveni umTavresi argumenti adaptirebuli teqstis Seqmnisa isaa, rom roca mkiTxveli gaigebs Sinaarss, mas SesaZloa, gauCndes originali teqstis wakiTxvis survili, romliTac erTdroulad inteleqtualur da esTetikur siamovnebas miiRebs. arada, dagveTanxmebiT, `vefxistyaosani~ is nawarmoebia, yvela qarTvelma rom unda waikiTxos, gaigos da gaiTavisos. ufro metic, man unda SeZlos msoflios kulturul sazogadoebas jerovnad warudginos es erovnuli ganZi, ase rom, aplikaciis Seqmnis idea, dizaini, teqstis gasrialebis funqcia, romelic ase popularulia momxmareblebs Soris, kobas ekuTvnis. Tavadvea yvela reklamis avtori. aplikaciis momxmarebelTa raodenoba yovelwliurad izrdeba da man 100 000-s gadaaWarba. aplikaciis gundis saxelze ki uamravi samadlobeli Setyobineba modis. es ukve imis maniSnebelia, rom mobiluri aplikacia Tavis funqcias kargad asrulebs, rusTavelis genialuri poema yvelasaTvis xelmisawvdomi da, rac mTavaria, martivad gasagebi gaxda. aplikaciis devizi: `vefxistyaosnis~ gageba ase martivi arasodes yofila~ – praqtikulad muSaobs. sxvaTa Soris, kobam meore aplikaciac Seqmna, amjerad ukve mZRolebisaTvis – `borbalo~. koba amJamad bostonis universitetis kompiuteruli teqnologiebis fakultetis meore kursis studentia.
– yvelaze sagulisxmo aforizmebi `vefxistyaosnidan~, romelic mudam Tan gvdevda. . . da maTi mimarTeba drosTan.
– originaluri ar viqnebi, Tu vityvi, rom `vefxistyaosani~ maradcocxali wignia, romelic udides cxovrebiseul, praqtikul sibrZnesac Seicavs yvela droisaTvis, anu 21-e saukuneSic iseve aqtualuria, rogorc, albaT, rusTavelis Tanamedrove epoqaSi iyo. poemis lamis yvela striqoni, yvela strofi, epizodi raRacaze dagvafiqrebs, raRacas gvaswavlis. sxvaTa Soris, swored amitom gamovyaviT `vefxistyaosnis~ aplikaciaSi calke aforizmebi. isini sami principiTaa dalagebuli: Tavebis, Temebisa da anbanis mixedviT – vis rogor sWirdeba da moexerxeba. davamateb: aplikaciis es ganyofileba gansakuTrebuli popularobiT sargeblobs. rac Seexeba Tqvens kiTxvas, vfiqrob, aseTi uamravi aforizmia `vefxistyaosanSi~. mainc vcadoT gamoyofa, Tumca es, albaT, metismetad subieqturi iqneba. vfiqrob, CvenTvis am poemis yvela striqoni gansakuTrebulia, maTSi xom daSifrulia qarTvelebis genetikuri kodi. is, Tu rogorebad movediT dRemde, rogori mentalitetiT, rogori fsiqologiiT, rogori cxovrebiseul-zneobrivi principebiT, bevrwilad swored am poemiTaa ganpirobebuli. amitomac arian qarTveli kacebi erTdroulad tarieliviT Zlierebi da mgrZnobiareni, avTandiliviT maxvilgonierebi da artistulebi, laRebi, Tavisuflebis moyvareni, amitomac arian qarTveli qalebi nestaniviT momxiblavebi, erTdroulad kdemamosilebi da vefxviviT Seupovrebi (dRevandeli nihilistebi, albaT, ironiul Rimils da morig cinikur replikas ar daiSureben am striqonebis wakiTxvisas, magram Cven – qarTvelebs gvyavs tariel-avTandiliviT kacebic da nestan-TinaTiniviT qalebic, egaa oRond, isini CrdilSi arian, xolo sainformacio saSualebebiT fatman-WaSnagirebisa da qajebis reklamireba xdeba ratomRac, Tumca esec droebiTi movlena mgonia). davubrundeT aforizmebs: Cemi azriT, upirvelesi mainc esaa: `borotsa sZlia keTilman, arseba misi grZelia~. es aforizmi RvTis rwmenasac gulisxmobs, radgan am rwmenis gareSe im qariSxliani, umetesad bneli da mZime saukuneebis gamovla, dRemde mosvla da `meobis~ SenarCuneba qarTvel xalxs gauWirdeboda. meore: `Wirsa Sigan gamagreba asre unda, viT qviTkirsa~ – esec qarTveli kacis gautexlobisa da Wirisadmi medegobis gamomxatveli formula mgonia. da mesame: `bedi cdaa, gamarjveba RmerTsa undes, mo-ca-xvdebis~ – adamiani arasodes unda danebdes beds, yovelTvis unda ibrZolos gamarjvebisTvis. asec iqceoda saukuneTa ganmavlobaSi qarTveli xalxi. iqneb, TqvaT, sad aris `siyvaruli agvamaRlebs~, `vin moyvaresa ar eZebs. . .~ da ase Semdeg? iq aris – `vefxistyaosanSi~ da dRemde mogvdevs da qveSecneulad (sulac rom ar uyvars kiTxva, iseT qarTvelsac ki) saWiro dros gaaxsenebs xolme adamianobis arss. amitomaa rusTavelis poema `wignTa wigni~!
– roca literaturis samanebSi mogzaurobT. . . Tanamedrove msoflio literatura da qarTveli mwerlebi. . .
– unda vaRiaro, rom msoflio literaturas bevrad mets vkiTxulobdi axalgazrdobaSi, vidre axla, Tumca, profesiidan gamomdinare, miwevs Tvalis midevneba globaluri literaturuli procesebisadmi. isic unda vTqva, rom bevri avtori CemTvis aRmoCena iyo: jorj orueli, frederik begbederi, umberto eko, orhan famuqi da sxvebi. sabWoTa epoqaSi msgavsi teqstebi ar iTargmneboda. amasTan, minda giTxraT, rom miuxedavad erzacliteraturis moZalebisa, qarTul mwerlobas iseTi myari klasikuri saZirkveli aqvs, darwmunebuli var, arc 21-e saukuneSi daudebs tols msoflio literaturas. gavixsenoT igive postmodernistuli teqstebi aka morCilaZisa, romlis mdidari, ZarRviani qarTuli, iumoris grZnoba, weris daxvewili teqnika da Txrobis fantastikuri unari bevri evropeli Tu amerikeli postmodernisti mwerlis Semoqmedebaze naklebi arafriTaa, ase rom, momavali Cvenia.
– konferenciebi, romlebSic monawileobT da moxsenebebiT gamodixarT, riTaa mniSvnelovani, rogor gamoviyurebiT civilizaciis gzajvaredinze?
– mSvenivrad – fexdafex mivyvebiT samecniero siaxleebs, zogjer gadametebuli gulmodginebiTac ki. . . oRond esaa, rom jerjerobiT ver vaxerxebT qarTuli mwerlobis saukeTeso nimuSebis msoflio sazogadoebisTvis Rirseulad gacnobas, amaSi namdvilad movikoWlebT. amis umTavresi mizezi, isev da isev, enobrivi barieri mgonia. kongenialuri Targmanebi, rbilad rom vTqvaT, iSviaTobaa da amitom uamravi msoflio donis qarTveli mwerali sxva xalxebisTvis ucnobi rCeba. samwuxarod, verc Cven vaxerxebT maTi Semoqmedebis Rirseulad wardgenas saerTaSoriso konferenciebze. Cveni axali Taoba gulmodgined eufleba inglisur enas da vfiqrob, Tu aseve gulisxmierad moekidebian qarTuli mwerlobis Seswavlas, SeZleben uaxloes momavalSi am problemis gadaWras.
– sazogadoebriv azrze mwerlobis zegavlena Semcirda. es internetma gamoiwvia Tu ufro siRrmiseuli fesvebia saZiebeli?
– Tqvenma kiTxvam akaki baqraZis sityvebi gamaxsena, saqarTveloSi mwerals `eris winamZRolis~ funqcia hqondao. Cemi azriT, es ase iyo, sanam saqarTvelo damoukideblobas moipovebda: mwerals politikosis, sazogado moRvawis misiac hqonda dakisrebuli. amitomac yvela epoqaSi erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebeli brZolis avangardSi qarTveli mwerlebi idgnen, magram ganTavisuflebis Semdeg warmoSobil politqaosSi Caikarga maTi xma, xalxi ukve politikuri liderebis gamosvlebSi eZebda samomavlo gzebsa da perspeqtivebs. rac Seexeba internets, Tu imas vigulisxmebT, rom internetma sazogadoeba, gansakuTrebiT, – axali Taoba, mowyvita wigns, maSin dageTanxmebiT. magram, meore mxriv, internetis saSualebiT, Zalian bevri mwerali gaxda popularulic, isini farTo sazogadoebam gaicno, maT aqvT sakuTari Semoqmedebis reklamirebis saSualeba. ase rom, vfiqrob, am SemTxvevaSi epoqisa da politikuri viTarebis cvlilebam ufro imoqmeda. arada, dResac aranakleb sWirdeba saqarTvelos erovnuli suliT savse mwerlebis woniani, Rirseuli sityva.
– tradicia da dRevandeloba ramdenad Tavsebadia? erovnuli cnobierebis gasaRrmaveblad upirates sazrunavad ra gesaxebaT?
– vaRiareb, tradiciebis moyvaruli adamiani var, Tumca tradiciac aris da tradiciac: zogi Tavsebadia dRevandelobasTan, zogic – ara. namdvilad ar momwons uzarmazari qelex-ormocebis gadaxdis tradicia, samagierod, did pativs vcem qarTuli sufris warmarTvis xelovnebis – mWevrmetyveli Tamadis tradicias, momwons ufros-umcrosobis, ojaxis siwmindisa da simtkicis SenarCunebis tradicia. . . Zalian maRizianebs ojaxis institutze masobrivi Seteva, eqvsjer ganaTxovari qalebisa Tu Svidcolgamocvlili kacebis lamis yvelaze `progresul~, misabaZ adamianebad, `telesaxeebad~ qceva. erovnuli cnobiereba TavisTavad ar yalibdeba, amaze erToblivad unda izrunos ojaxma, skolam, masmediam, saxelmwifom. amaSi, tradiciulad, udidesi wvlili unda Seitanos sityvakazmulma literaturam.
– sityva mkurnalia, roca. . . diax, `brZnad metyvelebai~ wamalia. rogoria dRes qarTvelis sasaubro ena?
– modiT, am kiTxvaze pasuxi isev brZenma winaparma gagvces. `vefxistyaosanSi~ bevri aforizmia enisa da saubris Sesaxeb, isini gvaswavlian, rom, jer erTi, saTqmeli unda iTqvas. am kuTxiT, sabednierod Tu saubedurod, SezRudva araa. sityvis Tavisufleba umravlesobam gaigo rogorc yvelafris nebismieri formiT Tqmis ufleba, magram ar iTvaliswineben, rom `ar-sasmenlisa mosmena ars umJavesi wmaxisa~ da – piriqiT, `gvelsa xvreliT amoiyvans ena tkbilad moubari~ da, rac mTavaria, `zogjer Tqma sjobs ara-Tqmasa, zogjer TqmiTac daSavdebis~. es, rac Seexeba saubris Sinaarssa da tons, romelic, rogorc wesi, agresiul-boRmiania, anu tkbilqarTuli saubris yvela rusTveluri principi darRveulia. aranakleb rTuladaa saqme qarTuli enis siwmindis dacvis mxriv. dRes, rogorc araerTxel Cvens istoriaSi, qarTuli enis dacvis problema umwvavesad dgas. am mxriv scodavs yvela: dawyebuli zogierTi maswavlebliT, parlamentariT, JurnalistiT. faqtobrivad, enis damaxinjeba-dabinZurebaSi yvelas Seaqvs Tavisi `wvlili~. dRevandeli ena aris barbarizmebiT, vulgarizmebiT, JargoniT, kalkebiT gajerebuli, aRarafers vambob, elementaruli qarTuli gramatikisa da marTlweris sakiTxebis ucodinarobaze. Cemi azriT, amas araferi eSveleba, sanam skolebSi Tavis srul uflebebSi ar aRdgeba qarTuli enis gramatikis safuZvlebis swavleba!
– ra gvaqcevs adamianad? mainc ra aris es cxovreba, gza gankacebisa rogor gesaxebaT da rogor daakvalianebdiT axalgazrdebs?
– `siyvaruli agvamaRlebs~ – sxva gza da saSualeba adamianad qcevisa, gankacebisa, ar meguleba. es gza Zvelia da marad axali, epoqebisda mixedviT icvlis formebs, magram Sinaarsi igive rCeba.
– cifruli epoqa da xelovnuri inteleqti ra gamowvevebis winaSe ayenebs adamianebs da am fonze literaturisa da mwerlobis misia rogor gesaxebaT?
– `teqnikuri gaucxoeba~, virtualur samyarosTan mijaWvuloba, cocxali adamianuri urTierTobebis deficiti, `homo faberebis~ momravleba – ai, arasruli CamonaTvali im gamowvevebisa, romelTa winaSec cifruli epoqa ayenebs adamianebs. am fonze, literaturis misiaa, rac SeiZleba efeqturi mxatvrul-esTetikuri saSualebebiT Seaxsenos adamians, rom is unikaluria dedamiwaze mcxovreb arsebaTa Soris swored imitom, rom mgrZnobiare arsebaa, rom, rusTavelisa ar iyos: `ugulo kaci ver kacobs, kacTagan ganakidia~, rom adamianma ar unda dakargos varskvlavebiT moWedili ciT aRfrTovanebisa Tu morcxvi iis momxiblaobiT gaocebis unari da mudam unda SeZlos galaktionTan erTad waiRiRinos: `atmis rtoo, daRalulo rtoo, atmis rtoo, simSvidea Sori~. . .
– roca baTumis quCebSi daabijebT. . . baTumi axla da samomavlod rogor warmogidgeniaT?
– Cven yvelas Cveni baTumi gvaqvs da roca mis quCebSi davabijeb, mec xSirad mewveva xolme Cemi axalgazrdobis droindeli Tbili, myudro, qaTqaTa da kopwia baTumis monatreba, magram axal epoqas safuZvliani koreqtivebi Seaqvs qalaqis ierSi. mis saxed ukve qceulan caTambjenebi – zRvidan monaber niavsa da mis marilian surnels rom aRar uSveben Sua qalaqSi, cisartyelas ferebiT acimcimebuli macdunebeli kazinoebi da Ramis klubebi, aTasi juris bedis maZiebeli. . . amis Semxedvares ki maxsendeba daviT kldiaSvilis mier daxatuli me-19 saukunis baTumi: `yvelas enaze ekera baTumi, baTumi yvelasTvis saSovar adgilad Seiqna aRiarebuli; yoveli mxridan morbodnen, rom aq fexi CaedgaT da jibe gaesqelebinaT. sul mokle xanSi daiyida carieli miwebi da gaSenda axali qalaqi. . .~ msgavseba aSkaraa. Cven dResac `axali baTumis~ Seqmnis momswreni varT. mogvwons Tu ara, es gardauvali procesia, magram rogorc unda Seicvalos baTumi, me is mainc msoflioSi yvela qalaqze metad meyvareba, radgan veravin da veraferi Secvlis mis zRvas, mzes, wvimas, bulvars. . . rac mTavaria, Cems Tbilsa da mosiyvarule baTumelebs.
– kiTxva, romelic yvela znesrulma adamianma unda dausvas sakuTar Tavs. . .
– gamoviyene ki yvela SesaZlebloba, rac cxovrebam momca, Cemi qveynis, xalxisa da ojaxis sasikeTod?
