თამარ ორაგველიძე: ბათუმი შესაძლებლობების ქალაქია და ბედნიერი ვარ, აქ რომ დავიბადე
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aWara turistebisTvis wlis nebismier dros saintereso da mimzidvelia. dRiTi dRe izrdeba regionis gacnobis msurvelTa raodenoba, raSic maT adgilobrivi kvalificiuri gidebi exmarebian. Tamar oragveliZe `magnolia 2022~-is dajildoebaze, sadac aWaraSi saukeTeso turistuli servisis mimwodeblebi gamovlindnen, saukeTeso gidad dasaxelda. igi masobrivi komunikaciis doqtori, asocirebuli profesori, radiogadacema `baTumuri dRiurebis~ avtori da wamyvani, aseve, treneri turizmis dargSi da damoukidebeli gidia. vfiqrobT, masTan interviu saintereso iqneba Cveni mkiTxvelisTvis.
– ras niSnavs TqvenTvis, iyo gidi?
– gidoba, upirvelesad, sakuTari qveynis araformaluri elCobaa. Zalian sasiamovno da sapasuxismgebloa warmoadgende Sens qveyanas, gqondes imis SesaZlebloba, gaacno igi sxvebsac. ra Tqma unda, am erTi adamianis ukan dgas mTeli departamenti da mTlianad, turizmi, magram stumarTan urTierTobisas metwilad Senzea damokidebuli qveynis prezentacia, rac Zalian didi pativia CvenTvis.
– dRevandel dRemde rogor moxvediT?
– saintereso gzebiT viare, zogma warmateba momitana, nawilma – gamocdileba SemZina. moZraobaa albaT, cxovrebis mTavari xibli da saidumlo. ar maSinebs siaxleebi, gabeduli var. gaukvalavi gziT vivli da siamovnebas miviReb. araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar davmZimdebi usiamovnebebiT, gonebiT, gulSi saSleliT davdivar da axali dadebiTi emociisTvis vaTavisufleb adgils. sabednierod, cxovrebis arcerT etapze, mniSvnelovan momentSi, ar davrCenilvar marto da bunebrivia, siTboTi da siyvaruliT garemoculi adamiani Zlieria, yvelaze did tkivilTanac ki. sikvdilTan brZolas vgulisxmob rasakvirvelia, Torem sxva danarCeni xom ubralod, ferebs matebs cxovrebas.
– 2022 wlis saukeTeso gidad dasaxeldiT da `magnoliasTan~ erTad regionis popularizaciis mxardaWerisa da efeqturi TanamSromlobisTvis madlobis sigeli gadmogecaT . . .
– kidev erTxel visargebleb SemTxveviT da madlobas gadavuxdi aWaris turizmis da kurortebis departaments, yvela im adamians, vinc gamokiTxvaSi miiRo monawileoba da xma Cems kandidaturas misca. ra Tqma unda, sasiamovnosTan erTad, es udidesi pasuxismgeblobaa. aWaraSi turistuli gidebis yoveldRiuroba ganviTarebaze zrunvaa da amitom Cvens profesiul ojaxSi mudam saintereso siaxleebia. Cemi jildoc erT-erTia. . . amjerad, aWaris molaSqreTa klubis saqmianobaze gavamaxvileb yuradRebas da araformaluri ganaTlebis perspeqtivebze visaubreb. mis farglebSi saSualeba gvaqvs dasvenebis sasiamovno STabeWdilebebis, Tavisufali drois gatarebis an saqmiani mizniT mogzaurobis Teoriuli da praqtikuli codna gavuziaroT mozardebs. es me da Cems megobrebs siamovnebas gvaniWebs. ramdenime Tvea daviwyeT aRniSnuli aqtivoba. ganxorcielebulTan erTad, ukve didia dagegmili Sexvedrebis sia, rac Zalian maxarebs.
– aWaris mTavrobam prioritetad daisaxa regionis oTxive sezonis turistulad datvirTva. ramdenadaa mzad seqtori amisTvis?
– weliwadis oTxive dro Taviseburad momxibvlelia da Sesabamisad, mniSvnelovania rogorc saerTaSoriso, ise Sida turizmis ganviTarebis kuTxiT. e.w. mkvdari sezoni aWaraSi didi xania ar arsebobs. mxolod Sejamebisas SegviZlia vimsjeloT datvirTul da naklebad datvirTul periodebze. ra Tqma unda, am etapze zafxulis sezoni ukonkurentod liderobs, magram rogorc gidma, SemiZlia giTxraT, rom Tve turis gareSe ar mqonia. miuxedavad imisa, rom Teoriul turizmSi aqtiurad vmoRvaweob da CarTuli var momavali Taobis gidebis aRzrdaSi, servisebis ganviTarebasa da turis dagegmvaSi, praqtikosi gidoba siamovnebaa, romelzec verasodes vityvi uars. es ukve cxovrebis wesia.
– romeli qveynebidan gyavT yvelaze meti stumari?
– pirad me, ZiriTadad, baltiispireTis qveynebidan vmaspinZlob stumrebs. maT Zalian moswonT saqarTvelo. CemTvis, erTi kmayofili vizitiori, momavalSi Svid dajavSnul turs niSnavs. magram isic unda aRiniSnos, rom turizmi is sferoa, romelic mudmiv, uwyvet ganviTarebas gulisxmobs. Sesabamisad, sadRac vpasuxobT evropul standars, sadRac kidev bevri muSaoba gvWirdeba.
– turizmis Sesaxeb kanonis SesaZlo cvlilebasTan dakavSirebiT ra mosazreba gaqvT?
– ganwyoba dadebiTi maqvs. mimaCnia, rom gidma samuSao ena kargad unda icodes. istoriis Txrobisas Secdomebi ar epatieba qveynis araoficialur elCs da licenzia, romelic kompetenciis dadasturebaa, minimumamde daiyvans zogjer kuriozul situaciebs. gidebis did ojaxze vsaubrob da regionis mocemulobidan gamomdinare, danamdvilebiT SemiZlia giTxraT, rom es Zlieri gundi dakompleqtebulia sxvadasxva sferos specialistebiT, romlebmac cxovrebis raRac etapze hobi profesiad aqcies. piradad me, profesiiT Jurnalisti, cametwliani samuzeumo gamocdilebiT movedi turizmis sferoSi. gvyavs iuristebi, enaTmecnierebi, istorikosebi, maSvelebi da a.S. Cven erTmaneTs veyrdnobiT da vaZlierebT. aucileblad unda aRiniSnos turizmis departamentis lomis wili profesiuli gadamzadebis kuTxiT. treningebi, seminarebi, infoturebi da festivalebi, ra Tqma unda, Sedegs iZleva. Tumca, raki rbilad `kuriozuli situaciebi~ vuwodeT Cvens realobaSi jer kidev arsebul, erTeul, magram arasaxarbielo epizodebs, aq imedia, gamosavals saerTo ZalebiT vipoviT. vimedovneb, stumari, romelic aseTi tipis momsaxurebas miiRebs, mkacri ar iqneba Sefasebisas da Tu xuTi wuTiT adre mofiqrebul istorias moismens, fantaziis unars mainc daufasebs e.w. gids.
– `baTumuri dRiurebi~ – am proeqtzec gviTxariT rame?
– es gaxlavT proeqti, romelic ukve mexuTe sezonia mimdinareobs da radio aWaris eTeris saSualebiT gamogzaurebT Cveni qalaqis warsulSi, giambobT dRemde ucnob an naklebad cnobil istoriebs. uCveulo turis aqtiuri monawile brZandebiT da piradad gadixarT gzas, romelic cnobilma mogzaurma, mecnierma an istorikosma ganvlo. kiTxulobT mis Canawerebs, ganicdiT mis emociebs da uziarebT STabeWdilebebs sxvebs.
– rogoria Tamar oragveliZis erTi dRe?
– tradiciulad, Cvens qalaqSi yavaze wydeboda msoflio problemebi da ver gagakvirvebT Tu getyviT, rom finjani baTumuri yaviT iwyeba Cemi dila. weliwadis drois mixedviT aqtivobebi koreqtirdeba, magram ZiriTadad, ojaxis wevrebis dRis gegmas vecnobi da msofliosTvis daCqarebeul droSi mainc, vcdilobT, ramdenjerme gadavikveToT (es saSualeba patara qalaqis Seudarebeli xiblia), saRamo sainteresod davgegmoT da davtvirToT. Tavad dRe ki saxaliso TamaSs hgavs, sadac erTi etapidan meore etapze gadasvlisas Zlierdebi da izrdebi. martivi warmosadgeni rom iyos, es SeiZleba ase gamoiyurebodes: araformaluri gakveTili – skolaSi, leqcia – universitetSi, eTeri – radioSi, turi – qalaqis quCebSi da a.S. rac Zalian mniSvnelovania, es yvelaferi daRlas ar gulisxmobs, piriqiT, axali energiiT da ideebiT mavsebs.
– ZiriTadad raze aqvT pretenzia Tqvens turistebs?
– dasvenebisa da relaqsaciis reJimze gadarTul stumars, msubuqad rom vTqvaT, sacobebi ar xiblavs. raRacas ki TviTon bazari aregulirebs, magaliTad, Tu turisas dagegmili maqvs sazRvao gaseirneba, vici, romeli iaxta unda davjavSno da romels avarido Tavi, rac unda momxibvleli iyos misi fasi. maRali standartis SeTavazeba mcire danaxarjiT da miT umetes, cudad dagegmili turiT, ver moxerxdeba. yvelaze da yvelaferze ver iqnebi pasuxismgebeli, magram Sen SegiZlia kargad dagegmili da organizebuli turiT minimumamde daiyvano gauTvaliswinebeli SemTxvevebi. es kargi gidis da mZRolis SerCeviT unda daiwyos, radgan yvelaze xangrZliv periods isini atareben qveynis stumrebTan. garda komfortuli da usafrTxo gadaadgilebis uzrunvelyofisa, mZRolebi informaciis momwodeblebic arian – qveynis socialuri Tu politikuri mdgomareobiT dawyebuli, kvebiTi Sesvenebisas isini saubroben yvelaferze… qveynis imijze zrunvas, me piradad, gamocdili da kompetenturi mZRolis dajavSniT viwyeb.
– raime saintereso istorias xom ver gaixsenebdiT?
– mqonda SekveTa, rom turistebi wameyvana aWaris iseT sofelSi, sadac, maTive termins Tu gamoviyenebT, `turizms arc ki Caurbenia~ – enaxaT avTenturoba marketinguli SefuTvis gareSe. daviwye Zieba da. . . studentma miTxra, verasodes vifiqrebdi, Cemi saxliT Tu dainteresdebodnen ucxoelebi, sulze mogviswariT, momaval Tves mis daSlas da axlis aSenebas vapirebTo. stumrebs vuTxari, Zalian Zveli saxli vipoveT-meTqi da yoveli `Zalian Zvelis~ gagonebaze, Tvalebi ufro da ufro ubrwyindebodaT. maRalmTiani aWaris naxvisas jer moixiblnen da imdeni foto gadaiRes, mexsiereba Seavses telefonSi, Semdeg daklaknili soflis gzis aRmarTs rom mivadeqiT, dadumdnen. Cumi replika gavigone: qalaqis turze Tavs rom iwonebda, saqarTvelo arwivTa samSobloao, marTali uTqvams, magram arwivTa sabudari Tu unda eCvenebina, ras warmovidgendiTo. mivadeqiT saxls, sadac, ar vici, romeli ufro Wrialebda – Weri, kedlebi Tu iataki, magram iseTi garemo iyo, msoflios verc erTi oratoris mWevrmetyveleba rom ver gadmoscemda. saWmels iseTi naturaluri gemo hqonda, rogorc Tavad aRniSnes, `didi xania rom daviwyebuli aqvT~. mezobelTa Semostumrebam dauviwyari xibli Semata dRes, romelic maT mogonebas karga xans gaaTbobs. vin Tavisi mogrovili soko, vin TuTuni, vin ornaxadi WaWa Semoamata sufras da sruliad ucnobi adamianebis garemocvaSi Cemi stumrebi ojaxis wevrebiviT grZnobdnen Tavs. enobrivi barieri ise gaqra, rom verc ki gavixseneT, manamde rom arsebobda. xel-fexis da Jestikulaciis daxmarebiT saocrad axerxebdnen komunikacias da damSvidobeba Zalian gagviWirda.
– gids Zalian datvirTuli samuSao grafiki aqvs. ojaxi rogor reagirebs amaze?
– Cemi ojaxi gagebiT ekideba hobs, romelic profesiad meqca. ukve Tamamad SemiZlia vTqva, rom ojaxiT, sanaTesaoTi da samegobroTi var CarTuli turizmSi. es is sferoa, sadac sando adamianebi gWirdeba gverdiT da Cven erTad didi Zala varT. wyaltubos municipalitetma gidebis saerTaSoriso dRisadmi miZRvnili kvireulis RonisZiebebze ojaxTan erTad mimiwvia. es Zalian sasiamovno faqtia, radgan meZleva iSviaTi saSualeba, vimuSavo da paralelurad, ojaxTan viyo. imeruli pewi axlavs aqtivobebs.
– ras isurvebT rogorc gidi da am qalaqis mkvidri?
– visurvebdi met Rimils quCaSi, bazarSi, maRaziaSi, avtobusSi da a.S. es ar gaxlavT sakiTxi, romelic kanonmdeblobis doneze regulirdeba, magram turistul qalaqs da bednier qveyanas meti Rimili da meti pozitivi sWirdeba, gadasaWreli sakiTxebis sia ki TandaTan mcirdeba da servisic sagrZnoblad umjobesdeba. Tuki wlebis win sapirfareSoebis problemaze saubrobdnen, axla es sakiTxi mogvarebulia. erTi qalaqis turisTvis saWiroze meti teqnikuri Sesveneba SegviZlia SevTavazoT stumrebs (sakaTedro taZris mimdebare skverTan, sabagirosTan, panoramul borbalTan, sastumro `inturistis~ mimdebared. mokled rom vTqva, mTavaria gidma droulad miawodos informacia xalxs turis msvlelobisas da misces dro aRniSnuli SesvenebisTvis). RvTis SewevniT, davasruleb mimdinare proeqtebs da axlis ganxorcielebas Sevudgebi. baTumi SesaZleblobebis qalaqia da bednieri var, aq rom davibade.

