სოლომონ ფუტკარაძე: პრაქტიკისა და თეორიის შეხამება პროფესიონალად ჩამოყალიბების საწინდარია
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dabadebidan 60 weli Seusrulda baTumis respublikuri klinikuri saavadmyofos xelmZRvanels, Rirsebis ordenis kavalers, medicinis doqtors, baTumis SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetis ufros maswavlebels, eqim-radiologs, aTobiT samecniero naSromis avtors, saerTaSoriso konferenciebis monawile solomon futkaraZes. igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– batono solomon, ra garemoebam ganapiroba, rom aseTi rTuli, Tumca sapatio profesia airCieT?
– bavSvobaSi kinoTi viyavi gatacebuli, msaxiobobisken mimiwevda guli. mamas, iaSa futkaraZes, romelsac sofelSi WkuasakiTxav kacad icnobdnen, es rom gavande, gulwrfelad mirCia – Sengan msaxiobi ara, magram kargi eqimi SeiZleba dadgeso. mec gaviTvaliswine misi rCeva da vfiqrob, mogebulic davrCi. rom ara wina saukunis 90-iani wlebi, sxva xelisSemSleli garemoebebi, metsac mivaRwevdi rogorc profesiuli, ise mecnieruli TvalsazrisiT. maSin yvelas uWirda, mec da mSoblebsac, ojaxis rCenas Zlivs vaxerxebdiT.
– 35 wlis win pirveli operacia CaatareT. pacienti Tu gaxsendebaT?
– es iyo SuaxevSi muSaobisas, Tanac – damoukideblad. samedicino praqtika baTumis respublikur saavadmyofoSi gaviare. iq akaki beriZis saxiT Rirseuli specialisti, mrCeveli myavda. pacienti gadaudebel qirurgiul Carevas saWiroebda. meddis TanxlebiT operacia Cavatare da – warmatebiTac. pacienti mawyvalTeli nakaiZis qaliSvili iyo.
– Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino institutSi miRebuli Teoriuli codna ufro sargebliani iyo Tu praqtikuli gamocdileba?
– Teorias Tu praqtika ar Seerwya, warmatebaze ar unda ifiqro. xSirad vambob, rom praqtikis gareSe im adamianiviT viqnebodi, romelic uRran tyeSia da gzis gakvlevas ver axerxebs. aris SemTxveva, roca praqtikuli muSaobisas problema gveqneba. aseT dros Teoria unda moiSvelo. mravalgzis miwevs wakiTxulis gaanalizeba. axalbeda eqims praqtikuli saqmianoba uk-eT rom gamouvides, Teoria ar unda daiviwyos. praqtikisa da Teoriis Sexameba profesionalad Camoyalibebis sawindaria.
– qirurgoba eqim-radiologis specialobiT rodis CaanacvleT?
– SuaxevSi SromiTi naTloba rom miviRe, Semdeg qedis raionul saavadmyofoSi gadamiyvanes. janmrTelobis dacvis sistemis xelmZRvanelebi saqmianobas dadebiTad mifasebdnen. am dros baTumis respublikur saavadmyofoSi qirurgis vakansia gamoCnda. mSobliur sofel papoSvilebSi mewyruli procesebi rom ganviTarda, mSoblebi sacxovreblad baTumSi gadmovidnen. es mec wamadga. respublikur saavadmyofoSi muSaoba rom daviwye, kolegebs Soris yvelaze axalgazrda viyavi. es is periodia, ultrabgeriTi gamokvlevebi rom inergeboda CvenTan. maSin baTumSi eqoskopiis mxolod 3-4 aparati iyo. erTma SemTxvevam ganapiroba specialobis Secvla – aWaris ministrTa sabWos maSindelma Tavmjdomare guram CigogiZem respublikur saavadmyofos, romelsac rezo bolqvaZe xelmZRvanelobda, davaleba misca, ultrabgeriTi kvlevisa da kardiogramis aparatebi SeeZinaT saavadmyofosTvis. maTi moskovidan, Semdeg ki Tbilisidan Camotana me damevala, rac droulad SevZeli. jandacvis maSindelma ministrma givi civaZem rekomendacia gamiwia, rom aparaturaze memuSava. gaviare samedicino praqtika Tbilisis ramdenime institutsa da klinikaSi. 1992 wlis zafxulSi pirveli pacienti miviRe. dRisiT ultrabgeriTi kvlevis aparaturaze vmuSaobdi, Ramis saaTebSi qirurgis saqmes vakeTebdi. Semdeg mTlianad ultrabgeriT aparaturaze gadaverTe. es iyo 1994 wels. 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi respublikur saavadmyofoSi am dargis specialisti mxolod me viyavi. saTanado gamocdilebac miviRe. moskovSic gaxldiT radiologTa saerTaSoriso kongresze, sadac saWiro literatura SeviZine da Teoria da praqtika erTmaneTs Sevuxame.
– im dros eqimi-radiologi aWaraSi TiTze CamosaTvleli iyo. pirvelad vis gauziareT gamocdileba?
– 2003 wlis Semdeg aWaris klinikebSi gamoCndnen ultrabgeriT aparaturaze momuSaveni. 30-mde msurvels gavuziare gamocdileba. SoTa rusTavelis saxelmwifo universitetSi, ufrosi maswavleblis wodebiT, leqciebs vkiTxulobdi. amas Tavi davanebe da diplomisSemdgomi ganaTlebis miRebaze daviwye muSaoba – modulebs vxelmZRvanelobdi, romelic 2008 wlidan daiwyo.
– ramdenad elodiT, rom baTumis respublikuri klinikuri saavadmyofos xelmZRvanelobas gandobdnen?
– cxovrebiT aqtiuri pirovneba var. 2011 wels gaCnda azri, rom baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofos amortizebuli Senoba axliT CaenacvlebinaT. investori ar Canda, verc qveynis biujetSi moiZebna sakmao Tanxa. Cemi iniciativiT, saavadmyofos personalma SevTavazeT Sesabamis organoebs, rom Senoba CvenTvis gadmoecaT. baTumSi Sevkribe 40-ze meti eqimi, sxva klinikebSi momuSaveebic CavrTe, Sps `baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofo~ Camovayalibe. Cveni mizani iyo saavadmyofos periferiaSi gadatana – es teritoria rom gaeyidaT, qveynis biujeti mogebas naxavda. teritoria 20-mde heqtars moicavs. mSeneblobis dawyebisTvis yvela winapiroba movamzadeT, Tumca Semdeg movlenebi sxvagvarad ganviTarda. Sps-s direqtori me viyavi, 10 wlis win baTumis respublikuri klinikuri saavadmyofos direqtorobac mandes. amJamad sami saavadmyofos direqtori var. erTi isev qaRaldze rCeba, meore, romelsac moqmedeba Sewyvetili aqvs, muSaobas agrZelebs, axlad aSenebuli baTumis respublikuri klinikuri saavadmyofo ki sxva registraciiT moqmedebs. amis mizezi is valebia, romelic winamorbeds hqonda. ar gvinda is problemebi amJamad moqmed saavadmyofoze rom gadmovides. gvaqvs qalaq baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofo, baTumis respublikuri klinikuri saavadmyofo da Sps `baTumis respublikuri saavadmyofo~. wlebi ukan movitove da minda maqsimumi gavakeTo, rom Rirseuli xelmZRvanelis saxeli davtovo.
– qveynis janmrTelobis dacvis sistemaSi mimdinare reformebs rogor afasebT?
– dafinansebis axali sistema saqarTvelos mosaxleobis interesebzea morgebuli. es msoflioSi aprobirebuli meTodia da yvelafers saTanado adgils miuCens. amas winaT, CvenTan saqarTvelos jandacvis ministri zurab azaraSvili imyofeboda. 2 saaTis ganmavlobaSi siaxleebze vsaubrobdiT. ministris moadgile ilia RuduSauric gvstumrobda. samomavlod mniSvnelovan siaxleebs velodebiT.
– araerTi saerTaSoriso konferenciis monawile xarT.
– radiologia zogadi sferoa, igi exeba urologias, ginekologias, qirurgias. bolo wlebSi saerTaSoriso konferenciebSi xSirad vmonawileob, magram radiologebis konferenciebze rom miwveven, gansakuTrebuli siamovnebiT mivdivar. gaxldiT venaSi, CikagoSi, moskovSi.
– mSobliur sofel papoSvilebis karibWesTan gamonaTlevis wminda giorgis saxelobis taZris mSeneblobaSi umniSvnelovanesi wili gaiReT. . .
– es taZari Cemi iniciativiTaa aSenebuli – didi saqmeebi roca keTdeba, xelmZRvanelia saWiro. Cven im dros pirvelebma SevZeliT aWaris mTianeTis soflebSi meCeTebis aRdgenis procesisTvis taZrebis mSenebloba dagvepirispirebina. Sinaganma xmam mikarnaxa, mSobliur sofelSi eklesia ameSenebina. gamonaTlevSi movuxme mareTis xeobasa da SuaxevSi avtoritetis mqone pirovnebebs. vcdilobdi, pativiscemis niSnad, mSeneblobaSi CarTulTa areali gamefarToebina. xeobis warmatebuli adamianebi gverdiT damidgnen. 1998 wels taZris saZirkveli gavWeriT. zogierTebis ukuRmarTobis gamo, 8 tona cementi gagviqvavda. 1999 wels iniciatorTa erTi nawilic Camogvecala. gazafxulze mSenebloba martom daviwye. xuroTmoZRvari Teimuraz yurava saqarTvelos damoukideblobis aqtze xelismomwerma tariel futkaraZem Camoiyvana. taZris farTobi nawilobriv SevamcireT. imave wlis mariamobaze, saZirkveli da zeZirkveli amoviyvaneT. taZris mSeneblobis sakiTxs mitropolit dimitris vaTanxmebdiT. maSin sxalTis eparqia calke dadgenili ar iyo. mitropolitma dimitrim 35 wlis eqims Tanadgoma gamiwia da qvelmoqmedeba zviad cecxlaZes sTxova, romelmac 1000 amerikuli dolari gaiRo.
– ra grZnoba geuflebaT, roca Tqveni xeldasmiT aSenebul taZarSi mosalocad SedixarT?
– mixaria sofelSi Casvla, taZarSi sanTlis dasanTebad, mosalocad Sevla. mSenebloba rom daviwye, qristianobas ziarebulebi saerTod ar gvyavda. taZris axlandeli winamZRvari, dekanozi giorgi (futkaraZe) me-8 klasis moswavle iyo. Tavs valmoxdilad vTvli, rom Cveni xeobis mkvidrebi inaTlebian. mareTeli meufe efremi (gamrekeliZe) bolnisis eparqiis mTavarepiskoposia.
– taZris mSeneblobam, Semdeg ganviTarebulma movlenebma mraval siaxles daudo saTave, maT Soris upirvelesia saxalxo dResaswauli `mareToba~. . .
– saqvelmoqmedo fond `Subanis~ ucvleli damfinansebeli var. daarsebis dRidan didi wvlili Semaqvs registrirebul kavSir `mareTis~ saqmianobaSi. me, Svilebi, meuRle `mareTis~ yulabas cal-calke vavsebT. `mareToba~ me wamoviwye. vicodi, saxalxo dResaswauli mrevlis eklesiaSi moxmobis winapiroba gaxdeboda. im dros avTandil abaSiZes cru braldeba wauyenes da daapatimres. am faqtma mareTelebi gagviZliera. me, biWiko diasamiZe, Tamaz, oTar futkaraZeebi, vladimer maxaraZis kompania `hekates~ ofisSi SevikribeT da sazogadoeba davafuZneT, Tavmjdomared Tamaz futkaraZe avirCieT.
– mogzauroba giyvarT. msoflios romelma qveyanam dagitovaT ganumeorebeli STabeWdileba?
– yvela qveyana Taviseburad mSvenieria. CemTvis saintereso iyo kenia, momxibla braziliam, kerZod, rio-de Janeirom. karnavalsac daveswari. momewona indoeTic. kargia seiSelis kunZulebi. . . msoflios 34 qveyana maqvs Semovlili.
– megobrebi. . .
– maT gareSe Tavi ver warmomidgenia. yvela Cems warmatebas megobrebs vumadli. megobarTa didi wre myavs rogorc baTumSi, ise TbilisSi. 60 wlis iubile TbilisSi swored maT gadamixades.
– wuTisofeli tkivilebsac gvitovebs. . .
– didi tkivili iyo mSoblebis wuTisoflidan naadrevad wasvla. mamac 63 wlis iyo da dedac. oriveni erTi wlis SualedSi gamomecalnen xelidan. Tavi ufskrulis piras mdgom adamianad vigrZeni – yvelaferi dacarielda.
– ojaxis roli profesiul da sazogadoebriv saqmianobaSi. . .
– Cemi warmatebis yvela gza ojaxidan iwyeba. meuRle mzia cecxlaZesTan erTad qal-vaJi gavzarde. siyvarulze dafuZnebuli ojaxi gvyavs da upirveles megobrad, mesaidumled meuRle mimaCnia. Svilebis warmatebas mas vumadli.
– memuarebis wera xom ar gifiqriaT?
– am gadasaxedidan sakuTar Tavs vadanaSauleb, dRiurebs rom ar vwerdi. 60 wlis ganmavlobaSi mravali ram gamoviare da maTi samzeoze gamotana mizanSewonilad mimaCnia.
– mSobliur SuaxevSi, mareTis xeobaSi maRali reputaciiTa da avtoritetiT sargeblobT. gacemuli sikeTe Tu gifasdebaT?
– am kiTxvaze pasuxis gacema im didi TanadgomiT minda daviwyo, rac Tbiliselma megobrebma, gamorCeulad, profesorma jemal beriZem, profesor akaki beriZis Zmam, eklesiis mSeneblobis dros gamiwia, muSebic ki Camoiyvana. meti ra giTxraT. . .
– mokrZalebuli pirovneba xarT. es ramdenad momgebiania?
– es genetikuria. vfiqrob, jer sxvebs unda davufasoT amagi. kavSir `mareTis~ xelmZRvanelobam `sapatio mareTelis~ wodebaze rom warmadgina, uari vTqvi, samarTlianoba ar unda dairRves. `sapatio mareTeli~, `sapatio Suaxeveli~ xelwamosakravi wodebebi araa, maTi miniWebisas obieqturebi unda viyoT. savsebiT sakmarisia, erT dResaswaulze sam adamians rom mieniWos es wodebebi. meorec aris – yovelTvis fardis miRma dgoma araa xelsayreli, cxovrebas unda mivsdioT.
– rogorc vici, Tqvens profesias gahyva qaliSvili.
– diax, igi eqimi-radiologia, mravalprofiluri ganaTleba aqvs – Cemze erTi specialobiT mets flobs. movuwodeb, eqimoba, meojaxeoba da meuRlis pativiscema erTmaneTs Seuxamos.
– politikuri procesebisgan yovelTvis Sors dgaxarT, Tumca ukrainaSi mimdinare saomar situaciebs xSirad exmaurebiT. ukrainel xalxs ra momavals uwinaswarmetyvelebT?
– samarTlianobis mjera. yvela didi imperia unda daiSalos. male ukraina ekonomikuri mimarTulebiT aRmosavleT evropaSi warmatebuli qveyana iqneba. ukrainis gamarjveba qarTveli xalxis gamarjvebasac niSnavs.
