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poeti da reJisori giorgi arabuli gamorCeulad uyvarT ara marto saqarTveloSi, aramed mis farglebs gareTac, misi leqsebi sxvadasxva enazea Targmnili, rac mravlismTqmeli da saamayoa, axalgazrda Semoqmedi dRes Cveni stumaria
– giorgi, ra siaxlea Tqvens SemoqmedebaSi?
– vfiqrob, sityva Semoqmedeba ar gamoxatavs imas, rasac me vakeTeb Tu vakeTebdi. SarSan gadaviRe pirveli mxatvruli filmi `aldi~, romelsac axla vamontaJebT. rogorc ki films davasruleb, davubrundebi wignze muSaobas.
– rogorc vici, ori krebulis avtori xarT – `gzaze gasvla~ da `gvrini~. ras ukavSirdeba es saxelwodebebi?
– pirveli krebuli `gzaze gasvla~ 2012 wels daibeWda. 21 wlis viyavi da vfiqrob, viCqare, ramdenime leqss Tu ar CavTvliT. saxelwodebac simboluri iyo pirveli krebulisTvis. Tumca gza ufro saintereso da amavdroulad, rTuli aRmoCnda, vidre warmomedgina. `gvrini~ igive mTibluri, xalxuri samgloviaro poeziis erT-erTi Janria. wigni sam poemas aerTianebs da gardacvlili megobrebis xsovnas eZRvneba.
– `sadac gaixedav, rasac daakvirdebi, moismen, yvelaferSi SeiZleba poezia ipovo. . . mitom vwer nebismier SemTxvevaSi, sadac mosaxerxebelia ramis CaniSvna, magram did nawils vSli,~ – werT feisbuqze. gTxovT, detalurad mogviTxroT amis Sesaxeb, anu ra aris Tqveni inspiraciis wyaro?
– es gamomcemlobisTvis davwere, `rogor vwer~ – mcire Canaweri unda gamekeTebina. vfiqrob, yvelganaa poezia, ubralod, is unda SeamCnio da mere leqsad Targmno. yvela adamiani Tavis wil poeziazea pasuxismgebeli, yvela Tavis poezias daatarebs. rodesac adamiani geubneba grZel Rameze, rom `qalaqis odeni Rameao~, ukve poeziaa. . . poeziaa, roca moxuci adamiani Zvel ambavs ixsenebs da giyveba, wisqvilSi rogor mokles mewisqvile da misi vaJi da bolos TavisTvis warmoTqvams – `imaTi codo-braliT wisqvilis qvac gaCerebulao~. ubralod, unda mousmino adamianebs, samyaros, romelSic cxovrob.
– Tqven da poezia rodis daukavSirdiT erTmaneTs?
– yovelTvis miyvarda poezia, gansakuTrebiT, xalxuri leqsebi, romelsac mTaSi laparakis dros xSirad iyeneben adamianebi. am garemom moaxdina albaT, gavlena da kidev iman, rom Zalian kargi biblioTeka gvqonda saxlSi. aq aRmovaCine sxvadasxva avtoris poeturi krebulebi da mere am siyvarulma mec damawyebina wera.
– Tqveni poeziidan yvelaze ufro romeli leqsi xarT?
– albaT, romelic jer ar damiweria, magram TiTqmis vici ukve, ra unda davwero, TiTqos raRac vipove. . . adamianebi hgvanan leqsebs. me vicnob adamianebs, romelTac romelime cnobili leqsis saTaurs mivabamdi, usaTauro leqsebsac hgvanan, minimebsac da eposebsac ki. rogorc weRan vTqvi, mTavaria, Cven ra gvsurs poeziisgan.
– 2016 wels gaxdiT winandlis premiis laureati. amis Sesaxebac gviambeT. . .
– maSin `gvrinze~ vmuSaobdi, magram wigni dabeWdili ar iyo. literaturul JurnalSi davbeWde leqsebi da es publikacia warvadgine. is fuli raSi davxarje, aRar maxsovs, magram maxsovs emocia, rodesac dajildoebis dros Cemi saxeli gamoacxades. axla rom vfiqrob, maSin winandlis premia didi stimuli iyo CemTvis.
– Tqveni leqsebi Targmnilia ramdenime ucxour enaze. ras niSnavs es TqvenTvis?
– moxda ise, rom daaxloebiT aT enaze iTargmna da daibeWda sazRvargareT poetur anTologiebSi Cveni leqsebi. ramdenime Tvis win frangulad iTargmna da daibeWda parizSi. ar vici, ramdenad sainteresoa is ucxoeli mkiTxvelisTvis, magram CemTvis, ra Tqma unda, sasiamovnoa – Sen erTgvar dialogSi Sedixar sxva enis, sxva kulturis xalxTan.
– rogor SeafasebdiT dRevandel literaturul cxovrebas, mimdinare procesebs. Cveni realoba ramdenad asazrdoebs literaturis ganviTarebas da xarisxs?
– literatura Tu kultura, mgonia, rom CixSia – `cudi dro poeziisTvis~. TiTqos misTvis aravis scalia da arc aravis aRelvebs. avtorebi erTmaneTis wignebs kiTxuloben, mere sakuTar azrs uziareben, zogjer xmas ar iReben. esaa procesi da Tan Cveulebrivi ambavi. iseT epoqaSi vcxovrobT, roca Zalian bevri ram SeiZleba gamoiyenos avtorma, iqneba es mwerloba, Teatri, kino Tu rac. roca aris winaaRmdegobebi, maSin Cndeba poziciac saTqmelic da protestic.
– romeli mwerlis proza mogwonT da romlis poezia?
– axlaxan kidev erTxel wavikiTxe alber kamius `ucxo~, gamaxsenda is SegrZnebebi, rodesac pirvelad wavikiTxe, isic, Tu rogor Secvala bevri ram Cems warmodgenebSi. bolo drois aRmoCena CemTvis aris albaneli ismael kadare da misi `gaxleCili aprili~. qarTuli prozidan gamorCeulad miyvars daviT kldiaSvili. poeziaSi – nikoloz baraTaSvili.
– duSeTis Teatris mTavari reJisori iyaviT, ra gaxda Tqveni wamosvlis mizezi?
– SarSan davtove duSeTis Teatri. wlebis ganmavlobaSi, miuxedavad imisa, rom Teatrs dafinanseba ar hqonda da speqtaklis dasadgmelad yvelaferze zrunva Cven gviwevda – me, Teatris saocar TanamSromlebs, dass, didi dro gavatare iq, magram. . . wamovedi. amis mizezi mxolod anazRaureba da pirobebi ar iyo. vfiqrob, raRac dros unda waxvide Teatridan, sadac wlebi imuSave. Teatrs, msaxiobebs, qalaqs sWirdeba sxva xedva. dRes TeatrSi unda ismodes im adamianebis xma, romelsac zemoT aravin usmens, visi xmac gaubedurebuli qarxnebidan, maRaroebidan Tu mSieri ojaxebis TavSesafrebidan ar aRwevs Cvenamde.
– ra matebs adamians sulier Zalas, maT Soris Tqven?
– siyvaruli da sakuTari Tavis, sakuTari saqmis rwmena.
– Tviseba, romelic yvelaze metadaa TqvenSi ganviTarebuli?
– ramdenime Tvea, erT kerZo skolaSi vaswavli 12-15 wlis bavSvebs, vfiqrob, maTTan urTierToba isaa, rac axla mWirdeboda. gakveTilebze vgrZnob, rom bavSvebsac vWirdebi. axali Tviseba aRmovaCine sakuTar TavSi.
– raze swuxarT da ra gaxarebT, dRevandelobas rogor aRiqvamT?
– sixarulis dro TiTqmis aRar darCa. rac dRes Cvengan arcTu ise Sors xdeba, SeuZlebelia, ar gawuxebdes. ukrainaSi qarTveli mebrZolebi ukrainelebis mxardamxar ibrZvian da ebrZvian mas, vinc gvebrZvis Cven, vinc wamebiT mogvikla giorgi anwuxeliZe. . . siriasa da TurqeTSi 200 aTas adamianze metia dakarguli da nangrevebis qveS moyolili. rogorc ar unda gaeqce am ambebs, gaerTo, is mainc ukan dagabrunebs.
– Cveni qveynis momavali rogor warmogidgeniaT?
– momavali ar Cans. miuxedavad imisa, rom istoriulad ufro rTuli periodebi gadagvilaxavs, dRes sxva mocemulobaa, usiyvarulobiT Tu uRmerTobiT gamowveuli sasowarkveTa. rogorc eri, SeiZleba CavqreT da gavTavdeT. jer omebiT davkargeT teritoriebi, axla SigniT, dedaqalaqSic ki, mimdinareobs nebayoflobiTi aneqsia, romlis SemCerebelic aravinaa.