თხილნარელი გოგონა – პარიზში
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ucxoeTis prestiJul saswavleblebSi araerTi qarTveli axalgazrda imaRlebs codnis dones, mSobliuri qveynis saWiroebaze morgebul specialobebs eufleba. erTi maTgania xelvaCauris municipalitetis sofel Txilnaris mkvidri Sorena dumbaZe. igi Cveni stumaria
– specialobiT inJinrisa da pedagogis ojaxis mesame qaliSvili var, sam das erTi Zma gvezrdeba. Txilnaris sajaro skolaSi vswavlobdi. sabunebismetyvelo sagnebi, gamorCeulad, maTematika mitacebda. aRmzrdelebisa da ojaxis erToblivi ZalisxmeviTa da rCeviT TbilisSi, fizika-maTematikis, e. w. komarovis skolaSi konkursis wesiT Cavabare. am skolis kursdamTavrebulebi, metwilad, Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis meqanika-maTematikis fakultetze agrZeleben swavlas. mec, erTian erovnul gamocdebze miRebuli qulebiT, am prestiJuli universitetis studenti gavxdi, qarTveli da ucxoeli maTematikuri skolebis korifeebis saintereso da Sinaarsiani leqciebi movismine. marTlac, rom oqros wlebi mqonda. mSoblebi yuradRebasa da Tanadgomas ar maklebdnen. mama maSindeli saqarTvelos politeqnikuri institutis kursdamTavrebulia. mSobliur sofels avtoinJinris diplomiT daubrunda. erT xans Txilnareli axalgazrdebis winamZRoloba daakisres gasuli saukunis 80-iani wlebSi. dRes Tadarigis vice-polkovnikia, cdilobs, Tanadgoma, mzrunveloba ar momaklos.
– enobrivi barieri rogor daZlieT?
– rogorc ki safrangeTSi wasvlis konturebi gamoCnda, franguli da inglisuri enebis Seswavla daviwye. aq ki enis aTvisebis meti SesaZlebloba momeca. ukve frangi klasikosebis nawarmoebebs, cnobili ekonomistebis naSromebs dedanSi vkiTxulob, Tarjimnis misiasac vasruleb. paralelur reJimSi inglisur enasac veuflebi. enobrivi barieris daZlevam mravali megobari SemZina. isini afrikisa da samxreT amerikis qveynebidan arian.
– safrangeTisken gza rogor gaikvaleT?
– isev universitetis profesor-maswavleblebis wyalobiT. warCinebul da warmatebul students, sagranto programebSi CarTva mirCies. cdam gaamarTla da parizSi wavedi. davamTavre parizis biznesis skola. maqvs magistris xarisxi – korporatiuli finansebi da finansuri inJineriis specialobiT. aseve, gaviare inglisuri enis kursi parizis skolaSi. swavlis am periodSi vmuSaobdi sxvadasxva restoranSi. ucxo adamianebTan komunikacia saukeTeso saSualeba aRmoCnda franguli enis dasaxvewad. swavlis bolo wels gaviare staJireba Sida auditis poziciaze frangul kompaniaSi da amiT davasrule saswavlo procesi. diplomis gadmocemis ceremonia ivlisSi gaimarTeba. amiT amoiwura Cemi binadrobis ufleba studentis statusiT, amJamad velodebi axal binadrobis uflebas samsaxuris moZebnis mizniT.
– saqarTveloze, Cvens kulturaze ras amboben?
– Zalian mwiri informacia aqvT. am faqts im karCaketilobiT vxsni, rac yofilma sabWoTa kavSirma dagvitova. saerTod ar icnoben Cvens mwerlebs, Tundac, gamoCenil maTematikosebsa da ekonomistebs. me, rogorc momavalma ekonomistma, qarTveli ekonomistebis Sexedulebebi gavacani. axla vrwmundebi, ra didi mniSvneloba aqvs niWieri qarTveli axalgazrdebis saswavleblad, Tundac samuSaod ucxoeTSi mivlinebas. maxsovs, erTma profesorma leqciaze niko nikolaZe rom axsena, rogor gamixarda. ZirZveli frangebi de golsa da misi Taobis qarTvel politikosebs nawilobriv icnoben.
– profesiis Sesabamisi samuSaos dawyebamde kvebis obieqtSi muSaobT. ra msgavsebas xedavT qarTul da frangul kulinarias Soris?
– aq ician im kerZebis momzadebis recepti, romelic iuneskom aramaterialuri kulturuli memkvidreobis nusxaSi Seitana. xSirad aWaruli xaWapuris momzadebas mTxoven da mec dakveTas vasruleb. im qarTvelebs, visac parizsa da mis SemogarenSi restornebi aqvT, meniuSi xaWapuri SeaqvT. xorcSi, sxva kerZSi, mwvanils CvensaviT ar iyeneben.
– Segueba ar giWirT?
– sadac xar, iqauri qudi unda daixuro. eqvsi welia, rac safrangeTis cis qveS cxovreba, swavla da Sroma mixdeba. yvelaferi rodia advili saTqmeli an asatani, magram Tu keTili mizani gamoZravebs, Sens Tavs qveynis momaval samsaxurSi xedav, unda gauZlo, cudi ar unda dainaxo, keTil saqmes vinc gagikeTebs, madloba unda gadauxado. erTxelac ar mifiqria safrangeTSi swavlis mitoveba da qveyanaSi diplomis gareSe dabruneba.
– ukve ojaxis Seqmnaze fiqris dro dgeba. . .
– samSoblosgan moSorebiT myofi, ufro afaseb mSobliurs. ojaxSi oTxni vizrdebiT. babuas, iusuf dumbaZes 4 vaJi da 3 qaliSvili hyavda. 3 Svilis dedaa ufrosi da nana, jerjerobiT 2 Svils zrdis SuaTana da naTia. sanimuSo ojaxebi hyavT mamidebs. maT msgavsad, cxadia, mec msurs deda gavxde, amis droc mova.
– ucxoelma xeli rom gTxovos?
– gasakviri da gasaocari ra unda iyos. 21-e saukuneSi mravali qarTveli gogona ucxoelze gaTxovda da SesaSuri ojaxi Seqmna. me guli samSoblosken momiwevs.
– safrangeTma qarTuli stumarmaspinZlobis fasi xom ar dagaviwyaT?
– piriqiT, qarTvelTaTvis momadlebuli es niWi ucxoeTSi myofs ufro giZlierdeba. mec vcdilob, kargi maspinZloba gavuwio CemTan Camosul stumrebs. Zmis naTlia da naTlideda parizSi rom mstumrobdnen, RvTismSoblis taZris, parizis sxva siZveleTa monaxulebis Semdeg levilis ZmaTa sasaflaozec waviyvane. iq vnaxeT Suaxevis raionis sofel mofrineTis mkvidr Serif beriZis sasufevelic. safrangeTSi swavlis, Sromis, frangebTan, sxva qveynis adamianebTan urTierTobis amsaxveli masalebis wignad gamocema maqvs Cafiqrebuli.
– axlovdeba gazafxulis dResaswaulebi. maT pirvel rigSi vis miulocavT?
– TiTqosda am kiTxvis molodinSi viyavi, roca dedaCemsa da mis damsaxurebaze sityvac ar vTqvi. deda zeda Txilnaris sajaro skolis direqtoris moadgile da fizikis specialobis sertificirebuli maswavlebelia. zusti mecnierebisadmi ltolva misgan gamomyva. mxolod dedas ekuTvnis Cemgan pirveli milocva..
– qarTul da frangul soflebs Soris ra gansxvavebas xedavT?
– Zalian dids. safrangeTSi soflad 10 ojaxsac veRar naxavT. romen rolanisa da viqtor hiugos franguli sofeli drom gaanadgura. erTi cxadze ucxadesia – frangebi miwas ar acdenen da mosavalic baraqiani aqvT. momaval ekonomists soflebSic mixdeba gasvla da yvelafers civi gonebiTa da fxizeli TvaliT vakvirdebi.
– saqarTveloSi xSirad CamodixarT?
– weliwadSi erTxel an orjer. wels zafxulSi Camoval.