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baTumelebs (da aramarto maT) gamorCeulad uyvarT sabavSvo mwerali dali TedoraZe, romelmac Tavisi saintereso zRaprebiT bavSvebis gulebisaken gaikvlia gza. ocdaxuTi welia, qalbatoni dali baTumis Tojinebis TeatrSi iRvwis, sadac warmatebiT idgmeba misi piesebi. nayofierad muSaobs mis mier dafuZnebuli bavSvTa SemoqmedebiTi studiac, asobiT mkiTxveli iwonebs mis zRaprebs, romlebic literaturul JurnalebSi qveyndeba. mwerali dRes gazeT `aWaras~ Tavis gulisnadebs uziarebs.
– bavSvobidan movdivarT da mere, roca ukan vixedebiT. . .
– diax, es yvelaze lamazi, yvelaze naTeli wlebia Cveni cxovrebis. . . siyvaruli, sisufTave, silaRe, imedi erTi didi, feradi sahaero burTia, romlis Zafze CaWidebuli, xan Rrublebze danavardob, xan cisartyelas ferebSi livliveb, xan ukidegano velebze da tyis bilikebze datantaleb fexSiSvela. . . da mere, roca ukan ixedebi, xev nacrisfer, oRro-CoRro gviristebiT amokemsil rides, mzis sxivebiT gaCaxCaxebul, ulamazesi yvavilebiT moCiTul samyaros xedav.
– rodis da sad daibada sabavSvo mwerali dali TedoraZe, ra iyo STagonebis wyaro?
– davibade baTumis erT-erT lamaz mxareSi – orTabaTumSi, davamTavre winsvlis saSualo skola. inspiraciis erTi, romelime wyaros dasaxeleba gamiWirdeba, radgan es iyo uamravi kamkama Tu nacrisferi wveTis sinTezi, romelic Semdeg gadaiqca wyarod. . . pirvel rigSi, Cemi ojaxis wevrebis usazRvro siyvaruli literaturis mimarT, dedaCemis moyolili miTebi da istoriuli ambebi, didedas feradi zRaprebi (romelTa umetesoba, rogorc axla vxvdebi, misi gamogonili iyo), buneba, sadac davibade da gavizarde – Citebis WikWiki da yvavilebis surneli. . . sevda. udidesi sevda da gausaZlisi tkivili – mamis moulodneli gardacvaleba.
– am saukuneSi zRaprebiT bavSvebis daintereseba rogor SeZeliT, rogor arCevdiT Tematikas, formas da ras uTmobT gansakuTrebul yuradRebas?
– gulwrfelad rom giTxraT, Tematikasa da formaze ar vfiqrob. weris dros mxolod bavSvebis sufTa, kamkama Tvalebs vxedav. minda, davuxato samyaro, sadac bednierebasTan erTad sevdacaa, magram minda davarwmuno, rom `yvela adamians aqvs frTebi, yvelas SeuZlia ifrinos mokrialebul caze. oRond keTilis xelis SeSvelebacaa saWiro da naxavT, varskvlavebamde miaRwevs adamiani. Tbil ubeSi Caiwyobs brWyviala varskvlavebs da dedamiwaze Camogvitans, gagvabednierebs~. me amis mjera da Cemma saocarma mkiTxvelma dainaxa es gulwrfeloba. albaT, esaa bavSvebis dainteresebis mTavari mizezi, Tumca is sityva, romelic bavSvamde unda miitano, aTasjer unda gaaSalaSino, grdemlSi gaataro, bolos moaCuqurTmo, cisartyelas ferebSi amoavlo da mere gamoamzeuro.
– Tojinebis Teatris scenaze Tqveni piesebi warmatebulia. . .
– Tojinebis TeatrSi ocdaxuTi welia vmuSaob. es is adgilia, sadac mudmivad ismis ulamazesi samyaros naxviT gabednierebuli bavSvebis Jriamuli. me ki momca SesaZlebloba, davrCeniliyavi bavSvad, iseTi aRmeqva samyaro, rogorsac isini xedaven. TeatrSi daidga Cemi piesebi: `usamarTlo lomi~, `ambiciuri viri~, `stumrad berikebTan~, `salamuras saaxalwlo Tavgadasavali~, `jadosnuri varskvlavi~, `fifqias saocari axali weli~; inscenirebebi: `pepi grZeliwinda~, `mgeli da Svidi Tikani~, `bremeneli musikosebi~. var TeatrSi dadgmuli TiTqmis yvela speqtaklis simRerebis teqstis avtori. ulamazesi SegrZnebaa, roca scenaze cocxldebian Seni zRapris gmirebi da gesmis Sens teqstebze aJRerebuli musika, gansakuTrebiT ki roca darbazidan gamosuli mayureblis kmayofil saxes xedav.
– rogorc vici, bavSvebisTvis SeqmeniT SemoqmedebiTi studia. . . mizani da Sedegi?
– diax, maqvs SemoqmedebiTi studia `moala~. am studiis Seqmnis inspiracia ki zustad vici – skolebSi gamarTuli RonisZiebebis: `Sexvedra mweralTan~, `kiTxvis saaTi~, `zRaprebis kvaldakval~ da ase Semdeg, dasrulebis Semdeg, bavSvebi modiodnen da TiTqmis Cumad, saidumlod, mRelvarebisgan saxealewili meubnebodnen: `iciT, me vwer leqsebs, mec maqvs zRaprebi, mec minda mwerali viyo~. davinaxe bavSvebis gulis kunWulSi mimaluli survili da gadavwyvite, Semeqmna studia, sadac mTavari Rirebuleba bavSvis individualobis win wamoweva, bednierebis hormonis gamomuSaveba iqneboda, sadac davarwmunebdi, rom adamianis SesaZleblobas sazRvari ar eqneba, Tu is SeZlebs gavides sakuTari sulis sapyrobiledan, sadac mudmivad ukiJineben – ver SeZleb, Sen es ar SegiZlia, es ar gamova. . . darwmunebuli var, Cemi studiis bavSvebi SeZleben yvelafers, rasac miznad daisaxaven.
– saswavlo kerebs xSirad stumrobT, xvdebiT bavSvebs. es ramdenad gexmarebaT SemoqmedebiT procesSi? sainteresoa, ras grZnobT, ra xdeba TvalsaCino?
– amisTvis didi madloba skolis direqcias da gansakuTrebiT im pedagogebs, romlebsac garda ganaTlebisa, undaT, sxva Rirebulebebzec gazardon TavianTi moswavleebi. bavSvebTan Sexvedrebi eniT aRuwereli grZnobaa. Semogcqeris uamravi gaciskrovnebuli Tvali, sadac WinkebiviT acekvebuli kiTxvis niSnebi, ridi da mokrZalebaa. dasmuli SekiTxvebiT grZnob, rogor arian CaZiruli zRapris mistikur samyaroSi, rogor aqvT gancdili da morgebuli maTTvis sayvareli personaJebi, gadalagebuli keTili da boroti samyaro. grZnob, rogor gadareben Sen mier Seqmnil personaJebs da rwmundebi, rom unda wero maTTvis da mxolod maTTvis.
– es Taoba da Tundac aTi wlis winandeli rom SeadaroT, am etapze aRzrdis procesis sworad warmarTvisas ras unda daeTmos upiratesi yuradReba?
– Tanamedrove bavSvebs bevri SesaZlebloba aqvT teqnologiuri siaxleebis TvalsazrisiT, rasac mivesalmebi da momwons. oRond saWiroa, Cven, mSoblebma da pedagogebma es unari da SesaZlebloba codnis gaRrmavebasa da samyaros ukeT Secnobisken mivmarToT. ufro meti dro unda davuTmoT bavSvebTan urTierTobas. saWiroa xSiri, gulwrfeli saubrebi. mTavaria, bavSvma igrZnos, rom pativs scemen da iTvaliswineben mis azrs, sociumis wevria, magram individia, aqvs uflebebi, magram amasTanave, movaleobebic. Cemi azriT, Zalian kargi iqneba, Tu erTad wavikiTxavT wignebs, erTad vuyurebT filmebs. vimsjelebT siuJetze, imaze, Tu ratom dawera mweralma, ra undoda eTqva. xSirad unda vkiTxoT: Sen rogor fiqrob? Sen rogor moiqceodi?..
– patara mkiTxvelebi Sexvedraze ufro metad ra kiTxvebs svamen, ra ainteresebT, ra awuxebT, ra uxariaT?
– TiTqmis yvelas ainteresebs, rodis daviwye zRaprebis wera, romeli zRapari davwere pirvelad, vapireb Tu ara axali wignis gamocemas. yvela Sexvedris Semdeg vekiTxebi, ufro metad risi wakiTxva esiamovnebaT, raze undaT davwero zRapari da vxvdebi, rom didi gavlena aqvs ucxour literaturas da animaciebs. amaSi cudi araferia, magram saqarTveloSi Zalian bevri sabavSvo mweralia da sasurvelia, maT gaecnon, am mimarTulebiT, saWiroa mSoblebis da ganasakuTrebiT, pedagogebis CarTuloba da aqtiuroba.
– ra aris TqvenTvis mTavari Rirebuleba?
– gulwrfeloba, Tanadgomis, Tanalmobis survilis qona. adamians erTma ubralo winadadebam: `nu geSinia, me Sen gverdiT var~ SeiZleba, mTebi gadaadgmevinos, uimedos – imedi daubrunos, agrZnobinos, rom viRacas sWirdeba, viRacisTvis Zvirfasia.
– `mrwams, rom ars ena ram saidumlo uasakoTac da usulT Soris~. . . zogi ase aRiqvams da ganicdis bunebas. Tqven, roca bunebaze werT?
– yvelaze lamazi da bednieri wuTebia, roca bunebaze vwer. minda usasrulod gagrZeldes da ar gamovide am saocari samyarodan. ukideganod miyvars sofeli, miwis surneli. mTaSi yofna da tyeSi xetiali, sokos krefa, cad aziduli Tu miwidan axlad amoCituli naZvis xeebis cqera da maTi gamabruebeli surneli. gulis fancqaliT velodebi zafxulis dadgomas, radgan gomis mTaze, tyesTan axlos, mTebSi CaZiruli patara xis saxli melodeba. melodeba Cemi saxlis binadari, mrgvalTvaleba wruwuna kiki. aswlovan naZvis xeze, nislebisgan moqsovil hamakSi mcxovrebi tyis feria, muxis xis sasaxlis celqi ciyvebi, nacrisferi kldeebi. . . hoda, roca menatreba, vwer maTze. Cemi yvela personaJi me var. me var xe, buCqi, qva, Rrubeli, varskvlavebi. . . vwer da vxdebi, Cemi sityva uZluria im silamazis da sicocxlis aRsawerad da gadmosacemad, rac bunebaSia. bednieri var, SvilebSi da SviliSvilebSi Cavde bunebis usazRvro siyvaruli. kidev, ufro bednieri viqnebi, Tu amas Cems mkiTxvelSi SevZleb.
– gamoaReT Tqveni sulis sarkmeli da gasZaxeT samyaros. . .
– ulamazesi da uZvirfasesi xar, samyarov, sakmarisia, iseTi daginaxoT, rogoric xar!
– baTumi, baTumelebi da Tqven. . .
– baTumi ulamazesi, uZvelesi da uTbilesi qalaqia, gamorCeuli, lamazi tradiciebiT, siyvarulis, megobrobis, mezoblobis gansxvavebuli xibliT. ramdenjer mifiqria, ra lamaz qalaqSi vcxovrobT da xSirad, yoveldRiuri rutinis gamo, amas ver vamCnevT. bednieri var, samyarom momca imis saSualeba, mecxovra am qalaqSi, mevlo mis ulamazes quCebSi, sadac odesRac udidesi adamianebi cxovrobdnen da dadiodnen, adamianebi, romlebmac Seqmnes epoqa, megrZno gansxvavebulad Tbili da alersiani mzis sxivebi.