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SarSan Jurnal `WoroxSi~ qeTi gabinaSvilis moTxrobebi rom gamoqveynda, mravalma mkiTxvelma gamoxata Tavisi aRfrTovaneba, Tavad Jurnalis redaqtorma sandro beriZem ki sajarod daafiqsira Tavisi azri socialur qselSi: `am magari gogos brwyinvale moTxrobebi ibeWdeba `Woroxis~ me-4 nomerSi da waikiTxeT. . . Tu gindaT, sami mtkaveliT aimaRloT Semecneba~
marTlac rom saocrad natifi da Rrma SinaarsiT gamoirCeva da gvamaxsovrdeba yoveli moTxroba. erTxel kidev gacxadda, rom am kalmosnis saxiT, qarTul literaturas saimedo dasayrdeni aqvs… es axalgazrda, umSvenieresi da uniWieresi qalbatoni, araerTi saintereso prozauli nawarmoebis avtoria. misma wignebma gza gaikvala mkiTxvelamde da es interesi dRiTi dRe Zlierdeba. mraval literaturul konkursSi gamarjvebuls yvelgan gulRiad egebebian, `sabas~ eleqtronul velSic mis wigns `zRvari~ asobiT mkiTxveli hyavs.
– Cemi gmirebi saTaves cxovrebidan iReben. unda giyvardes, rom cxovreba SeZlo. diadi warsulis sadari momavali SevqmnaT, – acxadebs mwerali CvenTan interviuSi da mkiTxvels Tavis saintereso, mimzidvel, harmoniul samyaroSi samogzaurod iwvevs.
– tradiciuli SekiTxviT daviwyoT: Tqveni bavSvoba, yrmoba, mSobliuri garemo da pirveli STabeWdilebebi. . .
– papaCemi Zalian kargi mezRapre iyo. cxra SviliSvili vyavdiT. yovel saRamos jadosnur samyaroSi gvamogzaurebda. misi monaTxrobi Tvalsawiers gvifarToebda, fantazias gviRviZebda, ocnebas gvaswavlida. . . erT did ojaxad vcxovrobdiT. erTmaneTis sixaruliT vxarobdiT da erTmaneTis tkivili gvtkioda. yvelaze mniSvnelovani, rac Cemma bavSvobam momca, es siyvarulia da gancda, rom marto ar xar, Zalian bevri adamiania, vinc Sens wil tkivils yovelTvis gaiziarebs, magram amavdroulad, Senc gakisria pasuxismgebloba. im drom da erTmaneTis siyvarulma, rac imdenad mniSvnelovania, rom wlebi masTan verafers gaawyobs, momca saSualeba, ise gavzrdiliyavi, damviwyeboda vin viyavi Tavdapirvelad.
– `is var, vis Sesaxebac vwer~, – ambobT erT-erT interviuSi. da mainc, vin aris qeTi gabinaSvili?
– wlebma rac maswavla, albaT, isaa, rom danamdvilebiT verasdros ityvi, vin xar da ras SeiZleba elodos samyaro Sengan. sicocxle swored sakuTari Tavis Ziebis Zalian rTuli da grZeli gzaa. adamianSi ganuzomeli potencialia Cadebuli, sanam cocxalia, SesaZloa, zecasac miaRwios da qvesknelic ixilos.
– Tqvenma wignebma mkiTxvelTa da literatorTa yuradReba miipyro, literaturuli premiebic moganiWes. rogor aRiqvamT aRiarebas?
– aRiareba Zalian xmamaRali da cotaTi saSiSi naTqvamicaa. rasac wer, Tu erTi adamianis gulamde mainc midis, maSin xvdebi, rom azri hqonda im fizikur da sulier tanjvas, rac sakuTari nawilis wignad qcevas Sealie. Tuki gkiTxuloben da gafaseben, valdebulebac gekisreba, am adamianebis imedi ar gaacruo. ufro metad moindomo, metad ganviTarde, ukeTesad SeZlo. . .
– `mwerals ar SeiZleba mSvidobiani da wynari cxovrebis imedi hqondes~, – ambobs akutagava. . .
– simSvide iqneb miRmier samyaroSi iyos, magram dedamiwa mSvidi cxovrebisTvis Seqmnili araa. es ganuwyveteli brZolis adgilia, ganuwyveteli moZraobisa da sulis foriaqis. yvelas sakuTari brZolis veli aqvs, sakuTari msxverplis gaReba uwevs, sakuTari dakarguli nawili hyavs gamosaglovi. . . da radgan mwerals uwevs, sxva adamianebis TvalebiTac uyuros samyaros, misi tkivili kidev ufro didia, albaT.
– xelovnuri inteleqti mkvidrdeba cxovrebaSi. ras fiqrobT am epoqiseul gamowvevaze?
– nebismieri saSualeba, romelic adamianis SesaZleblobis sazRvrebs afarToebs, misasalmebelia. Cven erT adgilze ver gavCerdebiT, unda winsvlisaken viswrafodeT. mogvwons Tu ara, teqnikis saukunea, progress veravin da veRaraferi SeaCerebs da imedia, es siaxleebi sasikeTod aisaxeba kacobriobaze. magram rogoric unda iyos am mxriv miRweva, teqnika adamians ver Caanacvlebs, adamianze upiratesi veravin da veraferi gaxdeba. xelovnuri inteleqti iqneba Cemze Wkviani, magram mas CemsaviT ar SeeZleba uyvardes, stkiodes, uxarodes. . . mas suli ar eqneba.
– cxovreba, realoba Tavisi Suq-CrdilebiT, rogorc wyaro Semoqmedebis – asea?
– Cemi gmirebi saTaves cxovrebidan iReben – im emociebisgan, rasac yoveldRiurad vgrZnob, rac mawuxebs, rac mtkiva, rac maxarebs. im adamianebisgan, romlebmac gverdiT Camiares da albaT, verc SemamCnies, magram maTze fiqri SemorCa sxeuls. im yofiTi wvrilmanebidan, rasac yoveldRiurad vawydebiT da rasTan gamklavebac gviwevs.
– `ilia da misi Rirebulebebi mxolod winasaarCevno kampaniisas axsendebaT Cvens politikosebs da arCevnebis dResve aviwydebaT~, – werT guldawyvetili, anu `marTals vityvi~ Tqveni uryevi principia. . .
– ilias Rirebulebebis erTguleba, samSoblos interesebis dacvas gulisxmobs. is, rasac akeTeb, rasac qmni, risTvisac ibrZvi, Tu qveynis keTildReobas ar emsaxureba, azrs aris moklebuli. sakuTar TavTan marTali unda iyo, nebismier fasad. . . mTavari Rirebulebebi (`mamuli, ena, sarwmunoeba~) ar Zveldeba, epoqebi ver Secvlian, ver Caanacvleben mas.
– am ramdenime xnis win uCveulo, saintereso interviu gqondaT guram petriaSvilTan. . .
– guram petriaSvili is iSviaTi gamonaklisia, vinc imeds ar gicruebs da Zalian hgavs Tavis zRaprebs, Tavis personaJebs. viszec wers da rasac wers, imisi sjera. Zalian didi iSviaTobaa, avtori aseTi gulmarTali iyos Tavis nawerTan. guram petriaSvilis gacnobisas rwmundebi, rom cxovreba ver gcvlis da SenSi adamians ver klavs, Tuki Tavad ar mogindeba, samans iqiT gadaabijo. . . sasiamovno iyo masTan saubari.
– rogor SeafasebT dRevandel literaturul procesebs, Cveni realoba ra gavlenas axdens literaturis ganviTarebasa da mis xarisxze?
– ar mivekuTvnebi im adamianebs, vinc skeptikuradaa ganwyobili Tanamedrove qarTuli literaturis mimarT. Zalian bevri niWieri avtori gvyavs, Zalian bevri kargi wigni iwereba. . . aris problemebic: premiebi, romlebsac imisTvis qmnian, rom sakuTar Tavs mianiWon; uniWobis gadametebuli qeba da niWierebis SeumCnevloba; mdare xarisxis literaturis popularizacia; dakveTili wignebi; wignis gasaRebis bazarze arsebuli monopilia da usamarTloba. . . bevri problemaa, magram es yvelaferi xom `ar axalia, Zvelia~. albaT, dros wahyveba yvela wvrilmani, dros ver gauZlebs dRes dawerili wignebis udidesi nawilic, daviwyebis mtverSi dainTqmeba bevri saxeli da gvaric. . . da mere, Cveni epoqisagan erTi WeSmariti mweralic Tu darCeba, esec xom Zalian didi monapovaria.
– tradiciebi da wes-Cveulebebi ganviTarebis am etapze da Cveni damokidebuleba maTdami – ra davicvaT, ra ukuvagdoT?
– tadiciebi Cveni identobis nawilia. imis gamoxatulebaa, vinc viyaviT, rasac warmovadgendiT. axal epoqebs axali wes-Cveulebebi axlavs Tan, rac Zvelis gardaqmnas gulisxmobs. cvlilebebs yovelTvis rTulad egueba sazogadoeba da roca axali gzis gakvalvas iwyeb, mzad unda iyo winaaRmdegobisaTvisac. mTavari ki isaa, rom am procesma sakuTar TavTan ar dagvaSoros. Cveni mTavari mimarTuleba ar Segvacvlevinos.
– siyvarulis deficiti, samwuxarod, dRes Zalian sagrZnobia. gazrdilia sazogadoebaSi agresiuli foni. iqneb droa, Tu dagvianebuli araa, gangaSis zarebs SemovkraT?
– Tuki adamiani RmerTis xatad da msgavsad Seiqmna, RmerTi ki siyvarulia, maSin gamodis, rom adamianic siyvarulia. es misi arsia da siyvarulis gareSe masSi adamianis RvTiuri nawili kvdeba. ar SeuZlia adamians sicocxle siyvarulis gareSe. rogorc mzis arsi daikargeba Tu is sinaTlis wyaro aRar iqneba, aseve adamianis arsebobis azric gaqreba siyvarulis gareSe. unda giyvardes, rom cxovreba SeZlo. samwuxarod, Cveni sazogadoeba am mxriv katastrofis winaSe dgas da amis pirvelmizezi qarTuli mediaa, romelic siZulvils nergavs, romelic negativzea mTlianad awyobili. socialurma qselebma kidev ufro meti saSualeba misca adamians, agresia gaavrcelos. gadavxedoT, ra aris dRes aqtualuri: mokvla, Zaladoba, gaupatiureba, Zarcva… quCaSi sul ufro iSviaTad Sexvdebi gaRimebul adamians. is droa, siyvaruls vuwevdeT popularizacias, sikeTeze vsaubrobdeT, ndobaze, xelis gawvdenaze. unda davibrunoT erTmaneTi, isev unda davijeroT, rom adamianSi kargi gacilebiT metia, sxvagvarad gadarCena ar gviweria.
– ra matebs adamians sulier Zalas, Tqven Tavad?
– eWvSeuvali rwena da uSeRavaTo siyvaruli.
– istoriuli warsulidan vis gamoixmobdiT da ratom?
– droa, davasruloT siamaye imiT, rac gvqonda, vinc viyaviT, rac SevqmeniT, sadac gavimarjveT, rac gamovWedeT da risic gvwamda. warsuli namdvilad didebuli iyo, magram is istoriis furclebze darCa! axla imaze unda visaubroT, rogor SevalT istoriaSi, vin gavxdebiT, ras SevqmniT, visTvis viqnebiT magaliTis mimcemi. sakuTari Tavis unda virwmunoT, unda gvjerodes, rom Cvens ZarRvebSi isev Cqefs didgorisaken mimavali qarTvelobis sisxli. im diadi warsulis sadari momavali unda SevqmnaT.
– roca wignis samyaroSi mogzaurobT, yvelaze Seucvleli gidi vin aris, klasikosebi, anu Tqveni Tanmdevi sulebi?
– samyaro iqneboda Zalian uferuli wignis gareSe. ar arsebobs wigni, romelic ar imsaxurebdes erTxel wakiTxvas, magram aris klasikuri literatura, romelic ramdenjerme unda waikiTxo, radgan cxovrebis sxvadasxva periodSi sxvadasxva sulier faseulobas gaZlevs. da aris rusTveli. ar dawerila, Cemi azriT, `vefxistyaosanze~ didi wigni. mudmivad sakiTxavi, mudmivad safiqrali, yvela kiTxvaze pasuxia, yvela gzis maniSnebelia.
– roca bunebaSi xarT. . . aisi Tu daisi – romeli gizidavT?
– sasicocxlo energias bunebisgan viReb, zRva maZlevs Zalas, Cemi simSvidis wyarocaa da Cemi morigi aRelvebis mizezic. daisi miyvars – Ramis adamiani var.
– roca silamaze mSvenierebad iqceva da misi gavlena yvela Cvenganze. . .
– mxolod siyvaruls Seswevs unari, Cveulebrivi uCveulod warmoaCinos, mSvenierebad aqcios, xelovnebas ki xelewifeba sxva adamianebis gulebamde miitanos da isinic gaxados saswaulis Tanaziarni.
– ras hkiTxavdiT sakuTar Tavs?
– sad da ratom damarxe talanti, romelic ufalma mogca da sad dakarge gza, romelic SenTvis iyo gamzadebuli?
