ჰააგის სასამართლოს ისტორიული გადაწყვეტილება
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istoriul gadawyvetilebad afaseben analitikosebi haagis sasamarTlos verdiqts ruseTis prezidentTan dakavSirebiT, romelzec dapatimrebis orderi gasca. civilizebulma msofliom ganaCeni gamoutana putins, rac garkveulwilad, mis izolacias niSnavs saerTaSoriso politikaSi. omis erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi ruseTis jarma araerTi danaSauli Caidina ukrainaSi, buCas tragedia, aseve, asobiT daxocili da aTasobiT gatacebuli bavSvi ruseTis reJimis barbarosobis mkafio magaliTebia. isic cxadia, rom haagis sasamarTlos maRali standarti aqvs, rac am institutma araerTxel daamtkica. miuxedavad imisa, rom oficialuri moskovi haagis sasamarTlos verdiqts ar aRiarebs, putinis imiji dasavleTSi kidev ufro Seirya, masTan saxelmwifoTa gavleniani liderebi Sexvedras aRar moisurveben. amasTan dakavSirebiT araerTi kiTxva ismis, romlebzec dRes bsu-is profesori laSa baJunaiSvili gvipasuxebs.
– amas winaT haagis sasamarTlom ruseTis prezidents verdiqti gamoutana, Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb. . .
– haagis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba samarTlianobis aRdgenis TvalsazrisiT uprecedentoa. rogorc cnobilia, ukrainaSi masobrivi Zaladoba ganxorcielda mSvidobian mosaxleobaze, rogorc samxedroebis, aseve gadawyvetilebebis mimRebis organoebis mxridan. haagis zemoaRniSnuli verdiqti samarTlebrivi TvalsazrisiTac mniSvnelovania imitom, rom vxedavT masobrivi danaSaulis niSnebs, buCas tragedia amis TvalsaCino magaliTia. amavdroulad, ruseTis xelisuflebis danaSauli im kuTxiTac ikveTeba, rom maTi brZanebiT mimdinareobs saraketo ieriSebi arasamxedro obieqtebze, sadac mSvidobiani mosaxleobis didi koncentraciaa. magaliTad, amas winaT rkinigzis sadgurTan myofi adamianebi cdilobdnen, gasclodnen saomar regionebs da swored am dros miitanes maTze rusma samxedroebma saraketo ieriSi. es yvelaferi dagrovda. sxvaTa Soris, saerTaSoriso TvalsazrisiT am gadawyvetilebas politikuri motivic aqvs.
– ras gulisxmobT?
– saerTaSoriso Tanamegobroba Tvlis, rom putinis xelisufleba totalitarulia da swored am totalitarulma xelisuflebam daiwyo omi ukrainaSi. jerjerobiT yvelaferi ar aris cnobili. omi rom damTavrdeba, bevri detali gamomzeurdeba da SeiZleba miloSeviCis doneze dadges putinis pasuxismgebloba. rac mTavaria, haagis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba yvelaze didi sanqciaa putinTan mimarTebiT, anu reputaciulad da moralurad putini ganadgurebulia. es iyo yvelaze bolo sanqcia, amaze efeqtiani verdiqti ar meguleba, es aris sikvdilis tolfasi gadawyvetileba, radgan putinTan Sexvedras civilizebuli msoflios liderebi ar moisurveben. . .
– . . .Tumca mas CineTis lideri Sexvda moskovSi.
– diax, CineTis lideri amas winaT imyofeboda moskovSi, amiT man mianiSna dasavleTs, rom ar aRiarebs im samarTlebriv normebs, romlebic dasavleTSia damkvidrebuli. sxva gzavnili CineTis liders dasavleTisadmi ar hqonia. am saxelmwifom Tavisi erovnuli, pragmatuli interesi wamowia win.
– ruseTis politikurma elitam ironiulad Seafasa haagis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba, Tanac Segvaxsena, rom birTvul iaraRs floben, es risi maniSnebelia?
– ruseTis xelisuflebas sxva araferi darCenia imis garda, rom samyaros daemuqros birTvuli iaraRis gamoyenebiT, radgan omSi sasurvel Sedegs ver aRwevs. saerTod, araerTxel gagvigonia msgavsi muqarebi kremlis mxridan.
– anu Tqven TvliT, rom ruseTis prezidenti saerTaSoriso politikaSi izolaciaSia?
– ra Tqma unda, ruseTis prezidenti saerTaSoriso asparezze izolaciaSi eqceva! SeiZleba CrdiloeT koreaSi Cavides, CineTSic Cava da arc iq Seeqmneba problema, magram civilur msoflioSi, bunebrivia, putini vizits ver ganaxorcielebs.
– `kapitulaciis garda putins sxvaze aravin araferze daelaparakeba~ – aRniSna analitikosma Tengiz fxalaZem. . .
– Cemi azriT, zustad am formulirebiT ixelmZRvaneleben dasavleli liderebi. es me maxsenebs meore msoflio omis droindel periods, rodesac antihitleruli koalicia SeTanxmda, hitlerTan ar hqonoda aranairi urTierToba. iq iyo principi: `gavanadguroT mteri bunagSi~. sainteresoa, rom istoria am kuTxiT meordeba da haagis dadgenilebiT dasavleTma putins mianiSna, rom isini masTan ar isaubreben am Temaze da am mimarTebiT saubari mouwevs minimum sxva pirs, maqsimum, sxva xelisuflebas.
– ramdenad mosalodnelia, rom ruseTis samxedro da politikurma elitam putini moiSoros?
– vfiqrob, putinisTvis haagis gadawyvetileba bolo Jamia, rac ruseTSi sxva Zalebs gzas uxsnis xelisuflebisTvis brZolaSi. droTa ganmavlobaSi politikurma elitam SeiZleba putinis Canacvlebazec ifiqros. gamoricxuli araferia. pirvel rigSi Sida politikur konteqstSi putinis imijs daartyes. yvelasaTvis gasagebia, rom putini agresoria, man miiRo omis dawyebis gadawyvetileba da ara sxvebma, miuxedavad imisa, rom msoflios instituciurad aCvena am gadawyvetilebis miRebis koleqtiuri saxe, anu putinma sruli pasuxismgebloba mTel politikur elitas ahkida. verdiqti, pirvel rigSi, putinis Sida poziciebze dartyma da misi Zalauflebis demontaJis mcdelobaa saSinao politikis TvalsazrisiT.
– rogorc cnobilia, 2008 wels cxinvalSi qarTvelTa eTnowmenda ganxorcielda, ramdenad mosalodnelia, rom amis gamo haagis sasamarTlom sxva rus maRalCinosnebzec gasces dapatimrebis orderebi?
– Cven ufro metad proaqtiurebi unda viyoT am mimarTebiT. haagis sasamarTlos zemoaRniSnuli gadawyvetileba upirvelesad, ukrainelTa damsaxurebaa, radgan samxedroebi da prokuratura erToblivad zrunavdnen, rom omis savalalo Sedegebis amsaxveli fotoebi da videokadrebi SeegrovebinaT. diax, yvelaze kargi mtkicebuleba kadrebia, ara mxolod prokuraturis warmomadgenlebi, aramed samxedroebic arian aRWurvilni kamerebiT, SemTxvevebs afiqsireben da fotomasalas gadascemen specialur organoebs, romlebic pasuxismgebelni arian, saerTaSoriso sazogadoebas omis realuri suraTi aCvenon. ruseTis danaSaulis gamoaSkaraveba maTi damsaxureba iyo. omis damTavrebis Semdeg evropul sazogadoebaSi yvelaze didi sadiskusio sakiTxi iqneba ara marto putinis, aramed sxva rusi Cinovnikebis namoqmedaric, romlebic unda gasamarTldnen. saqarTvelos SemTxvevaSi ra unda iTqvas, Cveni xelisufleba, sazogadoeba mobilizebuli unda iyos, raTa, es sakiTxi daayenos, Tu ase ar moxda. maSin araferi gamova, haagis sasamarTlom romc moindomos am sakiTxis ganxilva, qarTul mxares unda mimarTos, saqme rom aRZras, mtkicebuleba unda hqondes. Cven unda mivawodoT, vTqvaT, rom es mtkicebuleba gvaqvs da maT dasjas moviTxovT.
– eqspertebi acxadeben, rom axla Sesaferisi droa ruseTze zemoqmedebisTvis. . .
– diax, saamisod xelsayreli droa, sxva dros SeiZleba es uyuradRebod daetovebinaT, dRes ki xelsayreli garemoa, saerTaSoriso politikuri viTareba mainc subieqturia da dRes subieqturi mizezebi ruseTis sawinaaRmdegod moqmedebs. Cven gvaxsovs taliavinis daskvna, aseve gvaxsovs SemdegomSi evropis konformizmi, magram amJamad aRsaniSnavia evropis adamianis uflebaTa sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba, romelic Tamamad gamovida da ruseTi dagmo. naxeT, politikuri konteqsti rogor Seicvala, anu axla dasavleTi Tamamia imitom, rom ruseTis mimarT dayvavebis politikam Sedegi ar gamoiRo. ramdenadac xeli daafares, imdenad ufro meti sixiste, agresiuloba gamoavlina am qveyanam.
– vxedavT, rom ruseTi ukan daxevas jerjerobiT ar apirebs, piriqiT, moldovaSi xelisuflebis Secvlas cdilobs. . .
– moldova ruseTisTvis strategiuli mdgomareobis gamo mniSvnelovania. es qveyana esazRvreba odesis olqs da ruseTs meore frontis gaxsnis SesaZlebloba eqneba Savi zRvis mimarTulebiT. rogorc cnobilia, dnestrispireTSi cxovrobs rusi mosaxleoba, sadac SemorCenilia ruseTis samxedro arsenalis yvelaze didi maragi. amitom kremli sami mTavari strategiuli amocanis gadaWras cdilobs: pirveli – Secvalos prodasavluri xelisufleba, anu Seaferxos moldovis evroatlantikuri svla; meore – xelSi Caigdos placdarmi odesis mimarTulebiT da es Zalian didi mimarTulebaa; mesame – xelSi Caigdos didi SeiaraReba, romelic axla Caketilia. ratom cdiloben prorusuli Zalebi aeroportis xelSi Cagdebas? imitom, rom aeroportis dakavebiT rusebi frontis xazze garkveul SeiaraRebas Seitanen, rogorc vTqvi, es teritoria ruseTisTvis Caketilia, mas dnestrispireTTan pirdapiri sazRvari ar aqvs.
– haagis sasamarTlos gadawyvetileba ukrainis oms ukavSirdeba, axla omis ra fazaa?
– axla ZiriTadi brZolebi doneckisa da luganskis regionebSi warmoebs, gaafTrebuli brZola ki baxmutTan mimdinareobs. omi mxolod samxedro moqmedebebi ar aris, didi roli akisria informaciul upiratesobasac. ruseTs ara aqvs aranairi iniciativa frontis xazze, ukrainulma armiam gamofita rusuli SenaerTebi ara mxolod baxmutSi, aramed xarkovis olqSi, xersonSi. mokled, ruseTi warmatebas ver aRwevs. ukrainuli armia, ra Tqma unda, motivirebulia, kargad aRWurvili, gawvrTnili. garda amisa, dasavluri SeiaraRebis miwodeba izrdeba. . . yvelaze mTavari – ukrainelebi samSoblos icaven. rusebis motivacia sxvaa, absoluturad gansxvavebuli, amitom didi upiratesoba rac aqvs ukrainul jars – es aris patriotizmi, samSoblos dacvis aucileblobis gaTaviseba.
– mosalodnelia Tu ara wels ukrainis okupirebuli teritoriebis deokupacia?
– Cven ar vflobT dazvervis informacias, amas veravin gvetyvis, magram, Cemi azriT, ruseTis armias aRar Seswevs Zala, rom frontis xazze didi garRvevebi moaxdinos, aq arc is momentebi muSaobs, rac, vTqvaT, meore msoflio omSi muSaobda, anu ruseTs arc teqnikiT exmareba vinme, arc cocxali ZaliT, arada, meore msoflio omSi yvelaze metad sabWoTa kavSirs amerika exmareboda `lend-lizis~ kanonis farglebSi, ramac mas SesaZlebloba misca bevrgan frontis bedi saTavisod Semoetrialebina. dRes ruseTi, faqtobrivad, martoa. CineTi ki aris misi mokavSire, magram masac aqvs garkveuli SiSi saerTaSoriso sanqciebTan mimarTebiT da Riad ar SeuZlia ruseTs daexmaros. namdvilad ar unda CineTs agresori saxelmwifos daxmareba, radgan maSin TviTonac agresori saxelmwifo gaxdeba. ruseTs ar hyofnis samxedro potenciali, rom es omi warmatebiT daasrulos. vimedovneb, rom igi am oms katastrofulad waagebs, mniSvnelovania, rom ukraina ar gaCerdes, anu ruseTi ise unda damarcxdes ukrainaSi, rogorc iaponiasTan omSi, rogorc yirimis omSi, roca iaponiam da inglisma rusuli armia katastrofulad daamarcxa. mokled, Tu ruseTi ar Casves saerTaSoriso samarTlebriv normebSi, maSin misgan kargs arafers unda velodoT, ruseTi aris is saxelmwifo, romelic potencialis aRdgenis Semdeg isev agresiul politikas daadgeba.
– dabolos, yvela didi omis Semdeg msoflios axali gadanawileba xdeba, am mxriv Cveni qveynis momavali rogor gesaxebaT?
– Cvens dRevandel sagareo politikaSi ver vxedav mkafio gadawyvetilebas am mimarTebiT, amitom Zalian miWirs amaze saubari, Tumca faqtia, rom Cvenc im kategoriis qveynebSi SevdivarT, romlebsac ruseTisgan miadgaT Zalian didi ziani, amitom imedia, Cveni partniorebi ufro mets gaakeTeben CvenTvis, radgan saqarTvelos strategiuli mdgomareoba iZleva am sakiTxis dadebiTad gadawyvetis SesaZleblobas, ise, rogorc ruseTs ar unda. rac Seexeba msoflios axal gadanawilebas, amaze rTulia saubari imitom, rom aravin saubrobs amaze Riad. axal saerTaSoriso wesrigze saubari, ganxilva analitikur da samecniero wreebSi ar msmenia. jer aqtualuria omis dasruleba, anu ruseTma unda gaiyvanos jari ukrainidan, es qveyana iTxovs amas, pirveli piroba aris es! omis dasrulebis Semdeg, ra Tqma unda, msoflio saerTaSoriso samarTlis normebi SeiZleba Seicvalos. rac Seexeba usafrTxoebis sistemas, is msoflios masStabiT ara mgonia Seicvalos, Tumca aucileblad Seicvleba evropis masStabiT. evropis usafrTxoebis arqiteqtura sxvanairad Camoyalibdeba imitom, rom is Zveli arqiteqtura rac 1991 wels damkvidrda, anu euTos principze dafuZnebuli, daiSala. ruseTma ugulebelyo yvela is norma, rasac efuZneboda euTo, amitom axla unda ganaxldes es yvelaferi. sakiTxi ase dgas: es unda moxdes ruseTis gareSe, an ruseTTn erTad, oRond gakontroldes misi qmedebebi, raTa agresiis saSualeba ar mieces. erTi namdvilad vici, arsebuli saerTaSoriso arqiteqtura aucileblad Seicvleba, etyoba, ukve fineTi da SvedeTi Sedian natoSi – es yvelaferi amaze mianiSnebs.