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miranda zabaxiZe qobuleTSi cxovrobs da Tavisi saqmianobiT ara marto TanaqalaqelTa, aramed farTo sazogadoebis yuradRebas ipyrobs. qarTuli enisa da literaturis warmatebuli maswavlebeli poeziis trfialiTac gamoirCeva, misi leqsebi araerT literaturul gamocemebSi ibeWdeba. axlaxan qalbatoni miranda `2023 wlis personis~ titulze waradgines da jumber leJavas saerTaSoriso akademiis namdvil wevrad airCies. dRes igi Cveni gazeTis stumaria.
– warmatebuli pedagogi, poeti – ase gicnoben axloblebi da Tanamosaqmeni. Cvens mkiTxvels ainteresebs is gza, romelmac aqamde mogiyvanaT. . .
– skolis periodidanve mindoda maswavlebeli vyofiliyavi da miznidan arasodes gadamixvevia. rac Seexeba leqsebis weras, es CemTvis Zalzed sasiamovno procesi iyo Tavidanve, TiTqos miRmiers vexebodi maTi saSualebiT. Cemi ojaxi sxvitoridan aris, akaki wereTlis soflidan. erTxelac, bavSvobaSi mamisaTvis, roca akaki wereTlis Zegli daminaxavs, miTqvams: – mama, es kaci aq ratom dasves-meTqi? mamamac iumoriT mipasuxa: – Tu karg leqsebs dawer, ase dagsvamen Senco. am istorias xSirad vixsenebT ojaxSi.
– roca pirveli gakveTili CaatareT literaturaSi. . . rogor igonebT da mas Semdeg ra Seicvala literaturis swavlebaSi?
– pirveli Catarebuli gakveTili Zalian kargad maxsovs. baTumis erT-erT skolaSi viyavi. `Tavfaravneli Wabuki~ unda amexsna, leqtoric meswreboda Sesafaseblad. Tavidan cota vnerviulobdi, magram zari rom daireka, yvelaferi Tavis adgilas dadga. klasSi siCume Camovarda. yvela me miyurebda. mere erT sityvas meore mohyva da. . . ase rom vTqvaT, eSxSi Sevedi. zari rodis daireka aRarc maxsovs. bolos leqtorTan mivedi, Sefaseba rom gamego. man ki RimiliT miTxra: miranda, aq Tavs ise grZnob, rogorc Tevzi wyalSio. es dRe ubednieresi iyo Cems cxovrebaSi. im dRidan moyolebuli, literaturis swavlebisas axal-axal meTodebsa da saklaso aqtivobebs viyeneb. vfiqrob, sagakveTilo procesi amouwuravia maswavleblisaTvis, mTavaria, am yvelafers didi siyvaruliTa da pasuxismgeblobiT miudges.
– `Tanamedrove gagebiT, ganaTleba niSnavs icode, vin xar, saidan modixar~ – es Tqveni Sexedulebaa. ganavrceT ufro. . .
– kidev mravaljer gavimeoreb, rom ganaTleba, rogorc Zveli, aseve Tanamedrove gagebiT, niSnavs icode, vin xar, saidan modixar da sad midixar. es aris mTavari fabula am azrisa, romelsac unda emsaxurebodes skolis periodi, cxovrebis Semdegi etapis CaTvliT. aristoteles frazas gavixseneb – `ganaTleba aris ornamenti keTildReobaSi da TavSesafari ubedurebaSi~.
– bavSvis pirovnebad CamoyalibebaSi maswavlebelma Tavisi didi misia rom Seasrulos, ra TvisebebiT unda gamoirCeodes?
– bavSvi rom sworad aRvzardoT da pirovnebad CamovayaliboT, pirvel rigSi, Tavad unda iyos maswavlebeli am yvelafris etaloni, bavSvisTvis misabaZi. maswavlebloba bavSvebis uangaro siyvaruls moiTxovs gansxvavebis gareSe. is unda flobdes sakuTar Tavs da hqondes nebisyofis didi resursi.
– axla Tqvens Semoqmedebaze visaubroT. roca Tqveni azrebi da emociebi leqsebad gardaiqmneba, sad aqveynebT, upiratesobas romel medias aniWebT?
– sworad aRniSneT, Cemi Semoqmedeba Cemi sulis nawilia, is procesia, roca azrebi da emociebi leqsad gardaiqmneba. bednieri var, roca maqvs imis SesaZlebloba, lamazad gamovxato Cemi saTqmeli. mistikuri procesis msgavsia.
– roca bunebaSi xarT, yvelaze metad ra gitacebT?
– bunebaSi yofna Zalian miyvars, radgan misgan bevr inspiracias vRebulob. adamiani da buneba erTi Semadgeneli nawilia im samyarosi, romelSic Cven varsebobT.
– silamazis aRqma da gancda – am udiadesi unaris ganviTareba aRzrdis ra etapzea ufro efeqturi?
– silamazis aRqma da gancda adreuli bavSvobidan unda Cainergos adamianSi, radgan am periodSi miRebuli codna da emociebi uwyvet xazad gasdevs mTel cxovrebas.
– mwerlebi, romelTa wignebs xSirad ubrundebiT?
– miWirs gamovarCio romelime maTgani, aseTi bevria: vaJa, ilia. . . warmoudgenelia maT gareSe qarTuli mwerloba. aseve gansakuTrebiT miyvars oTar WilaZe, grigol robaqiZe da sxvani.
– adamianebi, romelTa arsebobam Zala da sulieri mxneoba SegmataT?
– es, pirvel rigSi, dedaa. is Cemi etalonia rogorc zneobrivad, aseve mTeli Tavisi cxovrebiT, romelic yoveldRiurad mimtkicebs, rom dedoba udidesi siyvarulis gamovlinebaa siyvarulTa Soris. aseve, Cemi ojaxis wevrebi, megobrebi. madloba maT imisaTvis, rom Cems cxovrebaSi arseboben.
– ra aris TqvenTvis samSoblo?
– rTulia, martivad gasce pasuxi am kiTxvas. samSoblo Cemi nawilia, romelsac yovelTvis guliT vatareb. es yvelaze Zvirfasi nawilia adamianisa, romelsac mTeli sicocxlis ganmavlobaSi sWirdeba zrunva, fiqri, saqme da, rac mTavaria, Sedegi. maxsendeba aseTi gamonaTqvami `samSoblosaTvis araferi gagikeTebia, Tu yvelaferi ar gaakeTe misTvis~. mTeli Cveni cxovreba Sedegi unda iyos im nafiqralisa Tu naazrevisa, romelsac mxolod erTi obieqti unda hyavdes – samSoblo.
– es weli warmatebiT daiwyeT, moganiWes diplomebi, sapatio tituli, mogviyeviT amis Sesaxeb. . .
– es weli Zalzed mniSvnelovani iyo Cems cxovrebaSi. saocari siswrafiT mihyva erTmaneTs warmatebebi. Cemi leqsebi ibeWdeba sxvadasxva Jurnal-gazeTsa da wignebSi. gavxdi jumber leJavas saerTaSoriso mecnierebaTa akademiis namdvili wevri, warmadgines `personis~ titulze, rogorc wlis warmatebuli poeti da pedagogi.
– tradiciebi da wes-Cveulebebi Cvens yofa-cxovrebaSi. . . ra SevinarCunoT, ra ukuvagdoT?
– saqarTvelo tradiciuli qveyanaa, sadac did pativs scemen adaT-wesebsa da kulturas. me piradad gamovarCevdi stumar-maspinZlobis tradicias. stumari RvTis kacad aris miCneuli Cvens samSobloSi. Tumca aris rigi tradicia romlis Sesworebasac visurvebdi. magaliTad, gadametebuli molxena. vfiqrob, zomiereba yvelafris mimarT didi sibrZnea cxovrebaSi.
– cifruli epoqa axali gamowvevis winaSe gvayenebs. dros rom movergoT, ras urCevdiT ufrosi da axalgazrda Taobis adamianebs?
– cifruli epoqa namdvilad gvayenebs axali gamowvevebis winaSe, Tumca yvelafers ori mxare aqvs. magaliTad: veranairi cifruli teqnika ver Secvlis wignis kiTxviT miRebul siamovnebas. Tumca, upirobod veTanxmebi imasac, rom cifruli teqnikis ganviTarebam adamians gacilebiT komfortulad agrZnobina Tavi, vidre winaT.
– rogor atarebT Tavisufal dros?
– rogorc ki Tavisufali dro gamomiCndeba, fizikuri aqtivobiT vkavdebi. Zalian miyvars velosipediT seirnoba zRvispira zolze. es CemTvis erTgvari relaqsaciaa.
– ganaTlebis ministri rom iyoT, ras SecvlidiT sistemaSi?
– simarTle giTxraT, meuxerxuleba am kiTxvaze pasuxis gacema, arseboben ufro kompetenturi adamianebi, romelTac gacilebiT ukeT SeuZliaT am sakiTxis gadawyveta. erTaderTi visurvebdi imas, rom Cveni ganaTlebis sistema dafuZnebuli iyos moswavlis swor ganviTarebaze, yvela bavSvs hqondes xarisxiani ganaTlebis miRebis ufleba, anu ganaTleba ganaTlebisTvis. myari safuZveli Seuqmnas umaRlesi swavlebisas TiToeul maTgans, moamzados moswavle momavali cxovrebisTvis, sadac ganuwyveteli brZola da Seupovrobaa saWiro.
– Tavad dausviT Tavs kiTxva, romelic gafiqrebT da upasuxeT. .
– Cems Tavs xSirad vusvam kiTxvas, ramdenad sworad avirCie profesia. pasuxic yovelTvis dadebiTia, radgan moswavle aris is pirovneba CemTvis, visTanac daRla, mobezreba, danebeba da mowyena ar SemiZlia. piriqiT, yvelaze bednierad maTTan vgrZnob Tavs. maT CemTvis dadebiTi emociuri fonis Seqmna SeuZliaT. TiToeul maTganTan urTierToba CemTvis sixarulia da did cxovrebiseul gamocdilebas mZens. moswavle da maswavlebeli ar aris mxolod sagakveTilo procesi, es urTierTobis xelovnebaa. xSirad mqonia iseTi SemTxveva, roca moswavleebs moumarTavT rCevisTvis, ukiTxavT, rogor moqceuliyvnen. vfiqrob, swored es urTierTobaa yvelaze Rirebuli, roca gendobian da Segwevs Zala, daexmaro maT.
