ბათუმის ინკლუზიურ დასში არის მთავარი – სიყვარული
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Cveni stumaria baTumeli axalgazrda natalia galogre. rogorc gviTxra, TbilisSi sami saswavlebeli, maT Soris saqarTvelos SoTa rusTavelis Teatrisa da kinos saxelmwifo universiteti daamTavra. dramis fakultetze andro enuqiZis jgufSi swavlobda da profesiiT dramisa da kinos msaxiobia. samomavlod, magistraturaSi swavlas reJisuris ganxriT apirebs. natalia axla baTumis inkluziuri Teatraluri dasis xelmZRvaneli da reJisoria. es sicocxliTa da iumoriT aRsavse gogona inkluziuri dasis istoriaze gvesaubreba.
– natalia, rodis da saidan gaCnda inkluziuri dasis Seqmnis idea?
– 2019 wels, maSin, roca qalaq baTumis meriis axalgazrduli centris programuli xarjiT gaTvaliswinebuli speqtaklis dadgma SemomTavazes. davfiqrdi, ra sirTuleebTan momiwevda SeWideba. pirvel rigSi, es iqneboda sruliad axali garemo, sadac martos momiwevda memuSava integrirebul speqtaklze, romlis monawileebic iqnebodnen SSm pirebi da tipuri ganviTarebis axalgazrdebi. siaxlis ar meSinia da amitom davTanxmdi, Zalian mainteresebda, realurad ra SesaZleblobebi mqonda. Sedegma yovelgvar molodins gadaaWarba. iseTi motivirebuli, enTuziazmiT aRsavse axalgazrdebi Seikribnen, rom araerTxel miTqvams da gavimeoreb, Tanac siamayiT – aq gaCereba da am wamowyebis mitoveba ukve samSoblos Ralatis tolfasia. garda megobruli garemosa da uangarod gacemuli siTbosi, baTumis inkluziur dasSi aris mTavari – siyvaruli. swored amitom, aRar gavCerdiT arc me da Sesabamisad, arc dasis wevrebi. Cveni mTavari devizia, – nabiji win. sul win unda viaroT, miuxedavad yvelafrisa. 3 saswavlebeli maqvs `movlili~, erT-erTSi, sabanko aRricxvebi da buRalteria Seviswavle. dasis Sesaqmnelad iseTi rTuli da damRleli biurokratiuli procesebi gaviare, cotaTi daviRale, magram ar davnebdi, bolomde vibrZole, tenderic ki movige (dRemde ar mejera). roca am biurokratiul sakiTxebs movrCi, gamocxadda qasTingi da ai, iq daiwyo, rac daiwyo. velodebodi, magram amdens namdvilad ara. anketa anketaze ivseboda da imdeni msurveli gamoCnda, cota ar iyos, avnerviuldi, ar vicodi, amdens Tu gavumklavdebodi. esec SevZeli da mixaria.
– ramdeni msaxiobi gyavT da ra asakis?
– dasSi axla 35 axalgazrdaa, romelTa asaki 7-dan 30 wlamdea, yvela Zalian gansxvavebuli da amasTan, yvela erTnairad motivirebuli. swored amaSia dasis xibli. Cven ar vejibrebiT sxvas, mxolod sakuTar Tavs vejibrebiT, rom yovel jerze gavimarjvoT axal gamomwvevebze da viyoT uzomod bednierebi sakuTari miRwevebiT.
– romeli speqtaklebi dadgiT da ra kriteriumiT SearCieT piesebi?
– pirveli speqtakli iyo `heladosi~ – gacnoba-damegobrebis, Semdeg daviwyeT axali speqtakli, sruliad forsmaJorul situaciaSi. sul raRac 4 dReSi, mayurebels baTumis Ria Teatraluri festivalis farglebSi, `laivstrimis~ saSualebiT vaCveneT speqtakli `Tmena~. mesame speqtakli iyo `musikis hangebi~. aseve, gadaviReT dokumenturi filmi Cven Sesaxeb, saxelwodebiT 
. filmi montaJdeba da Zalian male mayurebels socialuri qselebiT vaCvenebT, iqneba daxuruli Cvenebac.
– ramdenad moergnen rolebs axalgazrdebi?
– ar damezareba gavimeoro, rom saswauli axalgazrdebi arian. ise Tavdauzogavad muSaoben rolze, iseTi dakvirvebuli da organulebi arian, rom gadavwyvite, maTTvis xeli Semewyo. CautardaT masterklasebi dramisa da kinos msaxiobis, dramis reJisuris da dokumenturi kinos mimarTulebebiT. mowveuli gvyavda iseTi profesionalebi, rogorebic arian dramis reJisori, ilias saxelmwifo universitetis asocirebuli profesori Teatraluri mimarTulebiT vano xuciSvili, dramisa da kinos msaxiobi nino mumlaZe, kinodokumentalisti Toma CageliSvili. araCveulebrivi masterklasebi Catarda, rac pirdapir aisaxa axalgazrdebis motivaciasa da Sedegze.
– molodinma gaamarTla?
– gadaaWarba kidec. radikalurad Seicvala da gadafasda CemTvis Rirebulebebi, Sefasebis kriteriumi, mokled, yvelaferi.
– ramdenad rTulia gamorCeuli midgomiT muSaoba?
– saerTod ar aris rTuli. iq, sadac siyvaruli, dauRalavi Sroma da urTierTgagebaa, rTuli araferia.
– ra aris TqvenTvis prioritetuli?
– erT dResac gaviRviZo im realobaSi, rasac TvaldaxuWuli vxedav, Cveni brZolis Sedegi, rom yvela Tanasworni varT, rom ar arsebobs SezRuduli garemo da rom yvelas, yvelas gvaqvs ufleba da SesaZlebloba, vemsaxuroT kulturas. horoskopiT Txis rqa var da jiutad mjera, rom davamsxvrevT stereotipebs da Tvalgaxelili iseT realobas davinaxav, rom didxans viqnebi TvalebdaWyetili.
– ra adgili uWiravs Teatrs Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– es mas hkiTxeT (icinis). xandaxan mgonia, rom pirovnebaa Teatri da TviTon mmarTavs, mudmivad axlis ZiebaSi vyavar, yoveldRiur aRmoCenebSi da xilul saswaulebSi. miyvars. uangarod, sanam SevZleb, pirobas vdeb, rom vemsaxurebi. es yvelaze sasiamovno morCilebaa.
– ra emocia geuflebaT, roca speqtaklis Semdeg Tqvens namuSevars xalxi mquxare aplodismentiT xvdeba?
– amboben, Svili yvelaze didi bednierebaao. me jer biologiurad Svili ar gamiCenia, magram daaxloebiT vxvdebi, ra grZnoba iqneba, roca Sens pirmSos dainaxav. Svils hgavs, romelic bevrs moswons, bevrs uyvars, bevri SeniSvnas aZlevs, rom ukeTesi iyos. mere Senc masTan erTad izrdebi. . . amdeni rom ar melaparaka da bednierebaa-meTqi, rom meTqva, imasac xom damijerebdiT? oRond – yvelaze xangrZlivi bedniereba.
– msaxiobis ampluaSi ufro rTulia yofna Tu reJisoris?
– Tanabrad rTulia, radgan orive Zalian didi pasuxismgeblobaa. sirTule oqros Sualedis povnaa. Sensa da mayurebels Soris uxilavi farda unda Camoafaro, romlis miRmac yvelaferi unda Candes, oRond ise, rom momxibvleli idumaleba ar daikargos. orive SemTxvevaSi mTavaria icode, risi Tqma ginda am fardis miRma. xan gagigeben da miiReben Sens saTqmels, xan vera. siaxlis ar meSinia, amitom bevri ramis swavlas da keTebas vapireb.
– Tqveni azriT, ra problemis winaSe dgas dRes xelovnebis sfero?
– dogmebi da stereotipebi! problemas, romelic adamianuri resursiT da fuliT SeiZleba mogvardes, problema ar hqvia. sakmaod kargi dafinansebaa TeatrSi, oRond Tanxa sworad unda gadanawildes, miznobrivad, winsvlisTvis da progresisTvis. ase rom, isRa dagvrCenia, `mivceT niWsa gza farTo~, gavTavisufldeT stereotipebisagan, davuTmoT asparezi axalgazrdebs, axal reformebs, axal ideebs da Teatric aSendeba da qveyanac.
– gastrolzec rom gviamboT. . .
– amdeni rom viSromeT, modi, gastrolic vcadoT-meTqi da. . . esec gamovida. gavagzavneT aplikacia TurqeTis saerTaSoriso festivalze da. . . migviwvies. ai, iq viyavi ubednieresi. kidev erTxel davrwmundi, rom swor gzas vadgavarT. erTaderTi dasi viyaviT inkluziuri. mayureblis umaRlesi Sefaseba miviReT. organizatorebi dRemde aqtiurad gvekontaqtebian da ainteresebT, rogor midis Cveni saqme. inkluziis sakiTxi yvela qveynis prioritetul sakiTxebSia, visurvebdi, Cvens qveyanaSic ase iyos.
– saxaliso istoriac geqnebaT. . .
– ki. reisze davagvianeT. gana ver mivuswariT, gana sacobi iyo? ara! bednierebi visxediT ankaris saerTaSoriso aeroportSi, vwerdiT Cveni dasis wevrisTvis dabadebis dRis misaloc videos da am dros Cveni TviTmfrinavi Cvens zurgs ukan afrinda. . . samagierod, kargi video gamogvivida, dRemde gvaxsovs.
– ra gegmebi gaqvT?
– Teatri imdenad cocxali organizmia, Znelia, zedmiwevniT dagegmo rame. aq siTamame da siaxle TiTqmis yovelTvis gamarTlebulia. amitom Cveni ZiriTadi gegma siaxleebia, rac mTavaria, ar vCerdebiT. male axal speqtakls SevTavazebT mayurebels. aseve, gegmis nawilia moklemetraJiani multfilmis gadaReba. mokled rom giTxraT – Cven sul win vdgamT nabijs.
