მთას დაბრუნებული პოეტი ქალი და მისი მზერა მომავლისკენ
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`guliko gabaiZe siyvarulis, sevdisa da monatrebis poetia~, – wers wignis `mzem pirjvari daiwera~ anotaciaSi poeti cisana anTaZe. qalbatoni guliko Cveni stumaria.
– `mzem pirjvari daiwera~ – ratom daarqviT axal wigns es saxeli?
– mze xiluli movlenaa, igi ar arCevs mdidars da Raribs. yvelasa da yvelafers erTnairad unawilebs sxivebs da siTbos. mze dedis uRalato da mosiyvarule Tvalebia, Tbili guli da faqizi sulia. mze da deda erTnairad loculobden Cemze. erT dResac davwere leqsi, romlis bolo fraza gamoviyene krebulis saxelad:
JamTaRmwerma qvebi Tala,
Tvem dReebi gadaTvala,
vinac sevda ver damala,
mwuxarebas daabrala.
imedi da mkacri mzera,
aseTia bediswera,
rom CaTavda es simRera
mzem pirjvari daiwera.
– `xixanis zamTris qaTqaTa da zafxulis amwvanebuli mTebi~ Tqveni poeziis masazrdoebelia. xixanis cixes pirveli leqsi rodis miuZRveniT?
– Cems bavSvobaSi xixanis cixeze asvla specialuri saSvis gareSe SeuZlebeli iyo. ocneba mqonda, cixis citadelidan movferebodi saqarTvelos. me-7 klasis moswavlem am patara leqsSi gamovxate Cemi siyvaruli da ocneba:
minda gulSi Cavixuto,
saqarTvelos ca.
am mTebidan gavikvlio
sibrZnisaken gza.
samoTxeSi ukvdav sulebs,
mivawvdino xma.
qarTul miwis surneleba,
qarTul qvaze vwva,
qarTvel kacis sadRegrZelo
qarTul leqsad vTqva.
– `leqsi poetis ki ara, uiRblo qalis saqmea~ – ambobT erT leqsSi. Tavs uiRblod ratom miiCnevT?
– rTuli kiTxvaa. vwerdi da megona, tkivils viSuSebdi. leqsebi gaxdnen Cemi megobrebi…
leqsad vaqcie tkivili,
ocnebis jaric aqvea,
leqsi poetis ki ara,
uiRblo qalis saqmea.
Tumca axla ase ar vfiqrob. leqsi tkivilisa da sixarulis amosaTqmeli saSualebaa, siyvarulisa da sicocxlis erTgvari msaxuria. `rwmenasTan erTad Seviyvare Cemive cremli~.
– rwmenas cremlTan ratom aigivebT?
– rwmena adamianebTan urTierTobis da adamianad Camoyalibebis erTaderTi saSualebaa. karga xans viyavi gaorebuli, veZebdi gzas da vipove wminda ninos nakvalevi.
rwmenis RmerTi Zalas maZlevs,
miuZRveba mzes Sin,
roca ufals davaviwydi,
leqsic hgavda SeSlils.
vcade, dReebs mivagebo,
wminda grZnoba leqsiT,
ar damifrTxo ZvelisZveli,
Cemi rwmenis RmerTi.
– xixaZiris saSualo skola am statusiT meore saganmanaTleblo keraa xulos raionSi. mas daarsebidan saukune usruldeba. am skolis kursdamTavrebulTagan pirveli qali poeti xarT. ra Canafiqri gaqvT imisTvis, rom es iubile maRal doneze aRiniSnos?
– iq SeZenili codniT vwer leqsebs. iqidan veferebi samSoblos, sami leqsi ukve simRerad iqca, erTi, uSualod Cems skolas eZRvneba. amRerebuli leqsiT moveferebi adgilis dedas, stumars da maspinZels. warsulis ukvdavebaSi gadasul sulebs, romlebmac im epoqaSi Tqves sakuTari sityva, ganfines maradiuli xsovna da Cven sulis malamod vkinZavT. Tumca, amiT ar mTavrdeba. maqvs jer kidev gaumxeleli fiqri, iubileze rom warmovaCen.
– nodar ZirkvaZe da levan gelaZe wina saukuneSi moRvaweobdnen. ise wavidnen wuTisoflidan, saTanadod ver moefernen. Tqven raRac ideebi gqondaT. ras apirebT?
– droa, didi xnis Canafiqri sisruleSi moviyvanoT. es ori pirovneba unda dafasdes da maT kvalze gaizardon Taobebi. sazogadoebisa da Cemi survilia, skolebs, sadac isini swavlobdnen, maTi saxeli mieniWos, xulos centrSi maTi saxelobis skveri gaixsnas da biusti daidgas. jer kidev gamoucemelia nodar ZirkvaZis leqsebi da moTxrobebi. minda mzis sinaTleze gamovitanoT. wignis garekanze me vimuSaveb, radgan vicnobdi da misi pirovnuli Tvisebebi imaze meti iyo, vidre amoTqmuli bwkari, rac Cven unda mivawodoT momaval Taobebs. rac Seexeba levan gelaZes, man xanmokle cxovrebis ganmavlobaSic ki didi siyvaruli aqcia Cveni gonebis produqtad. skolebSi poeziis saRamoebi minda gavmarToT, sadac gaecnobian, iswavlian da Seiyvareben SemoqmedTa cxovrebas.
– cxovrebam am mcirewlovani Svilebis gzaze dayeneba caluRlad gargunaT. esec gaxda sababi, rom mSobliuri xixaZiri droebiT migetovebinaT. sibrZnis asakSi isev winaprebisa da erTguli Tanamecxedris saZvaleebs daubrundiT, Tanac mewarme qalisa da poetis ampluaSi.
– Svilebis momavalze fiqrma qalaqSi Camomiyvana. sakmaod rTuli iyo, magram sapatio gza gaviare. axla ukve suli mTxovs bavSvobaSi dabrunebas, raSic Cemi vaJis survilebi mexmareba. bunebis trfialia, soflis cxovrebas SeeWida da kargad gamosdis. pandemiam daaCqara Cveni sofelSi fexis mokideba. ukve oTxi welia, iqauri mosavliT vikvebebi. mTaSi dasasveneblad Cemma vaJma axali proeqti SeimuSava. turizmSi unda fexis mokideba. me Cems samkervalo salonSi vizruneb qarTuli ornamentebiT gawyobili samosis Sekervaze, aseve, minda adgilobriv mosaxleobas davexmaro naqsov-naqargebis gamofena-gayidvaSi.
– xuloel axalgazrdebTan urTierTobebi samsaxurebrivad gevalebaT. . .
– xulos kulturis centrma Camabara sxalTa-xixanisa da daba xulos axalgazrdobasTan urTierTobis samsaxuri. ZiriTadad, saganmanaTleblo RonisZiebebiT davkavdebi, metwilad – literaturul-musikaluri kompoziciebiT. minda, axalgazrdebs mivce stimuli, aqtiurad CaerTon sazogadoebriv cxovrebaSi.
– Coxis kervis saukeTeso ostati xarT. Tu gaixsenebT im pirovnebas, romelmac Tqveni Sekerili erovnuli samosi pirvelma moirgo?
– isic poetia, Tanac dedaqalaqSi moRvaweobs.
– xixaZirSi Coxa-axaluxisa da yabalaxis samkervalo sawarmo gaxseniT. . .
– erovnuli samosi adamianis rogorc garegnul, aseve Sinagan mdgomareobas gamoxatavs. maxarebs baTumis quCebSi Cemi Sekerili CoxebiT Semosili adamianebi rom dadian, sakuTar Tavsac alamazeben da garemosac. maT ricxvs xixaZirelebic Seematebian.
– leqsisTvis rodis moicliT?
– 1981-86 wlebSi vmuSaobdi samkervalo saxelosnos gamged. amirCies xulos raionuli sabWos ori mowvevis deputatad. gamocdilebidan gamomdinare, mravali siaxle maqvs dagegmili. vimedovneb, Tanasoflelebic mxarSi damidgebian da mec, bunebis wiaRSi, ufro baraqianad movusvam kalams.
– `mTis kanoni~ ra adgils iWers poeti qalis cxovrebaSi?
– man sulze momiswro – saxelmwifo programis TanadafinansebiT visargeble da miwis dasamuSavebeli motobloki SeviZine. axla sxva programebSi SvilTan erTad CarTva msurs.
– axseneT, rom Tqvens leqsebze simRera daiwera. . .
– diax, sam leqsze daiwera musika. `xixanis cixe-taZaros~ musika manana gabaiZes ekuTvnis, simReras ki mTisubneli cira TuraZe asrulebs. meorea `guli mavalebs damaleo~, mesame -`damesizmra~ Caweris procesSia. musikaze muSaobs kompozitori jemal adamaSvili.
– qal-vaJi, SviliSvili ra adgils iWeren Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– Svilebze arafers vityvi, SviliSvili ki axali sicocxlis dasawyisia. gamaaxalgazrdava da sruliad sxva samyaroSi gadamiyvana. amouxsneli sixarulia, romelic yovel dRes miferadebs.
– qalaqidan sofelSi gadabargeba, soflis saqmeebze SeWideba samegobrom rogor mogiwonaT?
– didad aravis gahkvirvebia. uflis xmas mivyvebi. ar vici, ratom, magram xandaxan mesxeT-javaxeTic mixmobs. wminda ninos naterfalebs veZeb. . . me mTa meZaxis. mTielebs gverdiT davudgebi. mewarmeoba rom gadavwyvite. vicodi, ar gamiWirdeboda piradi da sazogadoebrivi saqmianobis erTmaneTTan Sexameba.
– romanzec muSaobT. . .
– es siurprizi iqneba, iseve, rogorc bevri sxva siaxle, mizani rom upovia da mzis amobrwyinebas elodeba.

