,,როცა მასწავლებლობა გადავწყვიტე, ვიცოდი, რომ პირველად სოფლის სკოლაში ვასწავლიდი”
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mTiani aWaris sajaro skolebi ucxo, kerZod, inglisuri enisa da literaturis maswavlebelTa naklebobas ganicdis. qveynis wamyvani umaRlesi saswavleblebis kursdamTavrebulebi, maT Soris gogonebi, siZneleebsa da sirTuleebs ar epuebian da Soreul soflebSi samuSaod midian. maT rigebSia cinareTis sajaro skolis maswavlebeli linda diasamiZe.
– sofelSi mosvlis pirvelive dRidan TiToeuli adamianisgan udidesi pativiscema da siyvaruli vigrZeni. Zalian kargad maxsovs, rogor Tbilad damxvdnen moswavleebi, maswavleblebi da soflis mcxovreblebi. es CemTvis udidesi motivacia iyo, rom profesiuli movaleoba pirnaTlad Semesrulebina. martivi ar aris damwyebi pedagogisTvis sruliad ucxo garemoSi moxvedra, magram, miuxedavad amisa, maleve SeveCvie yvelas. Cems kolegebs udides pativs vcem, isini CemTvis misabaZi adamianebi arian. gamocdileba, romelic ori wlis ganmavlobaSi cinareTis sajaro skolaSi miviRe, Zalian damexmareba samomavlod.
– winamorbedis saqmianobas rogor afasebT?
– yvelasTvis cnobilia, rom mTian soflebSi Wirs pedagogebi, gansakuTrebiT – ucxo enis. cinareTis skolaSic Cemamde bevri maswavlebeli muSaobda, romelTa Sesaxeb bevri kargi msmenia. moswavleebSi ucxo enis codnis done sakmaod kargia, amitom maTi saqmianoba dadebiTad SemiZlia Sevafaso.
– soflis skolis moswavleTa damokidebuleba inglisuri enisadmi rogoria?
– dRes ucxo enebisadmi interesi sul ufro izrdeba. teqnologiebis epoqaSi inglisuri enis Seswavla erT-erTi mniSvnelovani sakiTxia. sofelSi mcxovrebi bavSvebi Zalian dainteresebuli arian am eniT. maT ena sWirdebaT ara marto akademiuri moswrebisTvis. mogexsenebaT, mTiani aWara turistulad sakmaod aqtiuri adgilia, xSirad Camodian ucxoeli vizitiorebi. maTTan komunikaciisTvis ki upirvelesia inglisuri enis codna. amitom soflis skolis moswavleebi didi enTuziazmiT da SemarTebiT cdiloben enis Seswavlas. Tu romelime maTgani momavalSi ucxo enis pedagogobas gadawyvets, me viqnebi maTi pirveli gulSematkivari, radgan darwmunebuli var, Rirseulad gaagrZeleben winamorbedebis gzas.
– visi damsaxurebaa, rom dandalos sajaro skolis kursdamTavrebuli ucxo enas warmatebiT daeufleT?
– Cemi yoveli warmatebuli nabiji, pirvel rigSi, swored am skolas, pedagogebs ukavSirdeba, romlebic dRes Cemi kolegebi arian. TiToeul maTgans Zalian didi wvlili miuZRvis pirovnebad Cems CamoyalibebaSi.
– maswavleblisTvis raa mTavari moswavleebTan urTierTobisas?
– erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesia maTSi swavlis survilis gaRviveba. Tu moswavleebi motivirebulni iqnebian, es maTi warmatebis sawindari gaxdeba. amaSi ki didi roli maswavlebels eniWeba. moswavle-maswavlebels Soris, pirvel rigSi, unda iyos megobruli, keTilganwyobili damokidebuleba. roca moswavles maswavlebeli uyvars, masTan meti xalisiT TanamSromlobs. amitom aucilebelia moswavleebis siyvarulis mopoveba.
– ingliseli klasikosebidan visi nawarmoebebi gitacebT?
– CemTvis inglisuri ena asocirdeba uiliam SeqspirTan da mis ukvdav piesebTan. swored misi damsaxurebaa, rom yoveldRiur inglisur sasaubro enaSi damkvidrda 3 000-ze meti sityva. misi Semoqmedeba imdenad mravalferovania, rom yvela piesa Tu soneti SegviZlia dRevandelobas davukavSiroT. Seqspirma umniSvnelovanesi roli Seasrula Tanamedrove inglisuri enis CamoyalibebaSi da xeli Seuwyo mas msoflio enad qcevaSi.
– qarTvel klasikosebs ramdenad icnobT?
– qarTuli proza da poezia fasdaudebeli ganZia Cveni qveynisTvis. sakmaod kargad vicnob klasikosi mwerlebis Semoqmedebas, maTi nawarmoebebi, romlebic wlebis win daiwera, dResac ar kargavs aqtualobas.
– bolo dros romeli mwerlis nawarmoebiT dainteresdiT?
– wigni, romelic bolos wavikiTxe da Cemze didi STabeWdileba moaxdina, iyo qarTveli diplomatis, inglisuri enis maswavleblis da mwerlis gela Carkvianis `rogor viswavle da vaswavlidi inglisurs~. is gviyveba enis SeswavliT gamowveul dabrkolebebze, Semdeg ki Tavis unikalur meTodebze, romliTac aTeuli wlebi aswavlida inglisurs. vfiqrob, es wigni aucilebeli sakiTxavia maTTvis, visac gadawyvetili aqvs inglisuri enis Seswavla, visac hgonia, rom ukve icis da aseve maTTvis, visac, ubralod, ainteresebs sabWoTa kavSiris periodSi dabadebuli adamianis ambavi, romelmac ucxo ena Tavisi cxovrebisa da karieris mudmiv, ganuyofel nawilad aqcia.
– mSobliuri ena ra adgils iWers Tqvens cxovrebaSi?
– ena, romelzec yoveldRiurad vmetyvelebT, aris Cveni identobis saukeTeso magaliTi. imdenad unikaluri da saintereso ena gvaqvs, rom amas mTel msoflioSic ki aRiareben. yovelTvis vcdilob, vimetyvelo gamarTulad da ar gamoviyeno barbarizmebi, romlebic inglisuri, rusuli, Turquli da sxva enebidan Semodis da mkvidrdeba. ena cocxali organizmia, sazogadoebis ganviTarebasTan erTad icvleba da neologizmebiT ivseba. adamianebi valdebulebi varT, mSobliuri ena, romelsac yoveldRiur urTierTobaSi viyenebT, davicvaT da SevinarCunoT.
– ojaxurma garemom ramdenad SegiwyoT xeli ganaTlebis miRebaSi?
– ojaxma Zalian didi gavlena moaxdina Cems pirovnul ganviTarebaze. mSoblebisgan mqonda udidesi xelSewyoba, rom miznisken mimavali gza warmatebiT gamevlo. mSoblebi yovelTvis iseT garemos gviqmnidnen, rom xeli ar SegvSloda ganaTlebis miRebaSi. ojaxis wevris warmatebaSi didi roli gveniWeba ufros da-Zmas. Cven maTTvis unda viyoT misabaZi adamianebi da vaCvenoT, rom Sromas da mizandasaxulobas yovelTvis moaqvs Sedegi. mec vcdilob, Ces Zmas mivce swavlis motivacia, avuxsna ganaTlebis mniSvneloba, davexmaro iseT sakiTxebSi, romelic misTvis rTulia.
– ojaxis Seqmnaze ras fiqrobT?
– vfiqrob, jer ar mimiRwevia dasaxuli miznebisTvis. vapireb magistraturaSi swavlis gagrZelebas, Semdeg ki SeiZleba ojaxis Seqmnaze fiqri.
– soflis axalgazrdebi xSirad aqceven zurgs adgilis dedas. . .
– roca maswavlebloba gadavwyvite, zustad vicodi, rom pirvelad soflis skolaSi vaswavlidi. aq mcxovrebi bavSvebi arian laRebi, Tavisuflebi da keTilebi. maTTan yoveldRiuri urTierToba imdenad sasiamovnoa, rom mTeli dRe dadebiTi emociebiT vivsebi.
– yvelaze didi Tanadgoma visgan gaxsovT?
– Cemi ojaxisa da skolisgan. swored maT Seitanes didi wvlili pirovnebad Cems CamoyalibebaSi.
– gansacdelSi Cavardnils Tu daxmarebixarT?
– bavSvobidan gvaswavlidnen, rom gansacdelSi Cavardnil adamians daxmarebis xeli unda gauwodoT, amitom yovelTvis, roca amis SesaZlebloba maqvs, vexmarebi gansacdelSi myofs, Tanac sxvebis daxmarebiT Cveni mentaluri janmrTeloba umjobesdeba. fsiqologebi amboben, rom rodesac energias sxva adamianebze vxarjavT, Cveni problemebi nakleb mwvaved gveCveneba.
– intervius Tqveni dabadebis dRes vwerT. . .
– es is dRea, rodesac yvela saukeTeso survilebiT gvavsebs. TiToeuli Tbili sityva dadebiTad moqmedebs da swored am dRes moaqvs CemTvis udidesi bedniereba, miuxedavad imisa, rom wlebi gvemateba.
– romel aRmsareblobas emsaxurebiT?
– qristiani var. CemTvis religia Zalian wminda ram aris da yovelTvis pativs vcem sxva religiuri mrwamsis warmomadgenlebs. qristianisTvis udidesi bednierebaa Rirseuli moZRvris povna, romelic Tvalyurs adevnebs Cvens sulier zrdas. igi, pirvel rigSi, saTnoebiT Semkuli, kacTmoyvare da megobruli unda iyos. moZRvradac swored am TvisebebiT Semkuli adamiani avirCie.
– sofel dandalos Tavzea wamomdgari istoriuli cixe, romelsac adgilobrivebi yali vakis, igive takiZeebis cixis saxelwodebiT icnobT. . .
– cixe Cveni soflis saamayo adgilia. am cixis monaxuleba 2 wlis win gadavwviteT Cveni soflis axalgazrdebma. cixis gza miuvalia. amitom sakmaod rTuli biliki gaviareT. cixeSi Sesvla SeuZlebelia, amitom mxolod mimdebare teritoriebi davaTvaliereT.
– istoriuli Zegli im sofelSic gaqvT, sadac ori welia maswavleblobT. ra iciT am cixis Sesaxeb?
– cinareTis cixis Sesaxeb mcire informaciebi maqvs Cemi moswavleebisgan da kolegebisgan. aqa-iq SemorCenilia galavnis kedlebi da nagebobis naSTebi. aseve msmenia, rom cixis zeda nawilSi daculia kldeSi nakveTi oTxkuTxa formis wylis rezervuari.
– Sansi rom mogeceT, romel qveyanaSi cxovrebasa da Sromas isurvebdiT?
– saocnebo qveyanaa CemTvis inglisi, kerZod ki londoni. es is qveyanaa, romlis ganaTlebis sistema erT-erTi mowinavea mTels msoflioSi. am qveynis kultura, tradicia da adaT-wesebi imdenad saintereso da mimzidvelia, rom survili maqvs, gavecno da safuZvlianad Seviswavlo.
– qalis mTavar movaleobad ra migaCniaT?
– nebismieri adamiani ibadeba Tavisufali da Tanaswori. yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi Cven sxvadasxva movaleoba gvakisria. vfiqrob, yvela adamianis upirvelesi movaleobaa, ar Selaxos sxvisi uflebebi da interesebi. zogi fiqrobs, qalis saqme unda daiwyos da damTavrdes ojaxiT. magram ojaxTan erTad, aucilebelia, qalma izrunos sakuTar karieraze. sabednierod, Cveni sazogadoebis umetesi nawili gadadis civilizebul relsebze da qalis rolic sazogadoebaSi sul ufro izrdeba.
– sicocxlis bolomde pedagogiuri saqmianobis erTguli darCebiT?
– maswavlebloba is profesiaa, romelic bavSvobidan mindoda, vfiqrob, ase gagrZeldeba momavalSic. magram winaswar arafris Tqma ar SegviZlia. cxovreba gamowvevebiTa da siaxleebiT aris savse, amitom unda movergoT iseT situacias, rom warmateba mudam CvenTan iyos.
