,,მრავალი ფაქტის გამო ვალში ვართ ჩვენი ყველაზე დიდი პარტნიორი და მეგობარი ერის წინაშე”
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dResdReobiT ukraina, romelic TavganwirviT ibrZvis sakuTari identobis, saxelmwifoebriobis SenarCunebisa da, aseve, postsabWoTa qveynebis TavisuflebisTvis, mTeli msofliosTvis mTavari Temaa
ukrainel bavSvebs exmareba araerTi qveyana, maT Soris saqarTveloc, imarTeba mniSvnelovani RonisZiebebi ukrainelTaTvis. erT-erTi umniSvnelovanesi proeqti am kviraSi – 13 maiss daiwyeba, kerZod, saqarTveloSi aSS-is saelCos mxardaWeriTa da dafinansebiT baTumSi proeqt `ukraineli qalebisa da gogonebis integrireba~ ganxorcieleba iwyeba. xazgasasmelia isic, rom aSS-is saelCom saqarTveloSi wardgenili aTobiT proeqtis gacnobisas prioriteti Cvens dRevandel respondent eka daviTaZis proeqts mianiWa, rac mravlismTqmeli da saamayoa (eka wlebis ganmavlobaSi Cveni gazeTis TanamSromeli iyo). sxvadasxva dros muSaobda sajaro samsaxurSi sapasuxismgeblo poziciebze, mesame seqtorSic. . . bolo wlebSi warmatebiT axorcielebs saganmanaTleblo proeqtebs, aseve saqvelmoqmedo (fond `alilo-2015~ -is farglebSi) gacvliT programas. maS, ase, gvesaubreba ukrainis daxmarebis humanitaruli Stabis sazogadoebasTan urTierTobis koordinatori eka daviTaZe.
– male baTumSi daiwyebT proeqt `ukraineli qalebisa da gogonebis integrirebis~ ganxorcielebas. rogor daibada am proeqtis idea da ra mizans emsaxureba?
– Zalian mixaria, rom kidev erTxel mogveca Sansi da baTumSi droebiT mcxovreb omsTavdaRweul Cvens ukrainel megobrebs sxvadasxva servisis SeTavazebiT adgilobriv TemSi integraciis SesaZleblobas mivcemT. rac Seexeba proeqtis ideas, mas Semdeg gaCnda, roca amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis saelCom saqarTveloSi da `soniaSnikma~ sagranto konkursi gamoacxades. `soniaSnik-Соняшник~-i amerikis saelCos mier dafinansebuli programaa, romelic TbilisSi, baTumsa da quTaisSi mcxovrebi ukrainidan iZulebiT gadaadgilebuli moqalaqeebis mxardasaWerad Seiqmna.
– roca proeqti Tanamoazreebs gaacaniT, rogori iyo mxardaWera, rCeva, winadadeba?
– bolo weliwadia, Cveni ZiriTadi saqmianobis paralelurad, SesaZleblobis farglebSi, gverdiT vudgavarT baTumSi mcxovreb ukrainel devnilebs. gasul wels, omis dawyebidan or dReSi, geno TebiZis iniciativiT, baTumSi ukrainis daxmarebis humanitaruli Stabi gaixsna. swored im dRidan, Cems megobrebTan erTad, aqtiurad var CarTuli ukrainelebis saWiroebebis gamovlenaSi, gvaqvs devnilebis sakmaod didi baza. am periodidan moyolebuli, TiTqmis 7000-mde ukrainels gavuwieT sxvadasxva daxmareba, iqneboda es sacxovrebliT, produqtebiT, tansacmliT da medikamentebiT uzrunvelyofa Tu samedicino da saganmanaTleblo (skola, sabavSvo baRi, sxvadasxva profesiuli Tu umaRlesi saswavlebeli) dawesebulebebSi konsultaciebi da dokumentaciebis mogvareba, Tumca, am dromde rCeba uamravi problema, maT Soris adgilobriv TemSi integrireba da sxvadasxva SiSisa da travmis daZleva. amitomac Tavdauzogavad vSromobT, aqtiurad vTanamSromlobT saerTaSoriso da adgilobriv organizaciebTan, rom miiRon meti servisi da sxvadasxva proeqtSi CaerTon, rac ucxo qveyanaSi cxovrebis, omiTa da axloblebis dakargviT gamowveul stress met-naklebad daaZlevinebs. rogorc ukve aRvniSne, is pasuxismgebloba, rac aRniSnuli proeqtis ganxorcielebisas gvekisreba, gasuli wlis Tebervlidan moyolebuli, Cveni yoveldRiurobaa. sagranto konkursis ganacxadi rom vnaxe, CavTvale, rom es SesaZlebloba unda gamomeyenebina. vesaubre zimlar beriZes, romelic Cemi uaxloesi megobari da dasayrdeni Tanamoazrea, absoluturad SeTanxmebulad ganvsazRvreT prioritetebi da daviwyeT samizne auditoriis saWiroebebis mokvleva. amasTanave, mniSvnelovani iyo, SeTavazebuli servisebiT iseT adamianebs esargeblaT, romlebsac sxvadasxva programaze jer ar hqondaT wvdoma. mogvianebiT, SevjerdiT formatze, Sinaarsze da saproeqto ganacxadi SevavseT. rac Seexeba gunds, romelic imuSavebs, is adamianebi arian, romlebsac sxvadasxva dros sxvadasxva proeqtis farglebSi aqvT ukrainidan iZulebiT gadaadgilebul moqalaqeebTan muSaobis gamocdileba, arian TavianTi saqmis profesionalebi da mxars uWeren ukrainel mamac xalxs okupanti ruseTis winaaRmdeg samSoblos TavdacviT brZolaSi.
– rogorc aRniSneT, proeqtis ganxorcielebaSi `soniaSnikis~ xelmZRvaneli da aSS-is saelCo dagexmaraT. . .
– `soniaSniki~, rac granti movipoveT, teqnikur sakiTxebSi namdvilad gvexmareba da amisTvis Zalian didi madloba mamuka safariZes, magram Cveni proeqti, gamWvirvaled, 30 proeqtidan SeirCa. gvqonda gasaubreba SerCevis pirvel da meore etapze. Semdeg detalebi davazusteT. kargia, rom saerTaSoriso organizaciebi da saelCoebi zrunaven ukraineli devnilebis saWiroebis dakmayofilebaze. am kuTxiT amerikis SeerTebuli Statebis aqtiuroba gamorCeulia.
– msgavsi proeqtebi kidev sad xorcieldeba da ra novaciiT gamoirCeva?
– sagranto konkursi gamocxadda sam did qalaqSi – TbilisSi, quTaissa da baTumSi proeqtebis ganxorcielebisTvis, sabolood, ori proeqti TbilisSi dafinansda, ori – baTumSi. dedaqalaqSi: 1. ukraineli qalebi Seiswavlian Wra-kervasa da tansacmlis dizains erT-erT fabrikaSi, sadac warmatebuli kursdamTavrebulebi dasaqmdebian kidevac; 2. dramaTerapia – ukraineli dedebisa da gogonebisTvis. Terapia beneficiarebs daexmareba posttravmul aSlilobasTan gamklavebaSi. rac Seexeba baTums, aq ori proeqti SeirCa: ukraineli mSoblebisTvis – qalTa klubi (inglisuri enis kursi, sportis gakveTilebi, artTerapia) da Cveni gundi.
– proeqtis farglebSi, ukrainel gogonebsa da qalebs ra aqtivobebs SesTavazebT?
– saWiroebebis kvlevis Sedegebidan gamomdinare, ganvsazRvreT aqtivobebi da, sabolood, Zalian santereso gegma SevadgineT. proeqtis farglebSi, 14-18 wlis gogonebsa da qalebs CautardebaT art da fsiqoTerapia, qarTuli simRerisa da cekvis masterklasebi, eziarebian qarTuli samzareulos mravalferovnebas, gaecnobian saqarTvelos/aWaris istoriasa da kulturas.
– SegiZliaT detalurad isaubroT, ratom SejerdiT zemoT CamoTvlil aqtivobebze?
– cxadia, omis Sedegad ukraineli qalebi da gogonebi imyofebian travmul stresSi da didi xania swavloben axal pirobebSi cxovrebas, ganicdian katastrofis Sedegebs, sayvareli adamianebis dakargvas, ganSorebas, martoobas… amitom, fsiqologiuri resursis aRsadgenad, aucilebelia sakomunikacio treningebis Catareba, romliTac qalebsa da mozardebs SeeZlebaT stresisgan Tavis daRwevis gzebis povna. ukraineli qalebisa da mozardebis adaptaciisa da fsiqikuri janmrTelobis aRdgenis fsiqologiur treningebze resursebis Sesafaseblad, SevTavazebT specialur savarjiSoebs, Catardeba testireba da proeqciuli teqnikis gamoyeneba, `simvoldramis~ meTodiT Seasruleben relaqsaciis varjiSebs. artTerapiuli meTodebis, rogoricaa xatviT Terapia, Zerwva, TamaSiT Terapia, kinoTerapia, musikaTerapia da sxvaTa gamoyenebiT SesaZlebeli iqneba ukraineli omiT dazaralebuli qalebisa da mozardebis mdgomareobis Semsubuqeba, stresisa da posttravmuli simptomebis moxsna, TviTgamorkveva, aracnobieri procesebis gacnobiereba, interpersonaluri urTierTobebis daregulireba da kreatiulobis ganviTareba. dagegmili gvaqvs kulturul da saganmanaTleblo dawesebulebebSi viziti, aWaris muzeumebSi daculi istoriuli, kulturuli da eTnografiuli eqsponatebis gacnoba maT warmodgenas Seuqmnis Cveni qveynis mdidari istoriis Sesaxeb, aseve, Seiswavlian qarTul xalxur cekvasa da tradiciul simReras, CautardebaT aWaruli xaWapuris masterklasi – gamocdil mzareulebTan erTad daamzadeben Cveni kuTxis savizito kerZs. damerwmuneT, sakmaod kargad nafiqri, gaanalizebuli da Sedegebze orientirebuli aqtivobebia. amis Tqmis SesaZleblobas maZlevs gundi, visTan erTadac vimuSaveb. eseni arian: mobilizatori – zimlar beriZe, artTerapia – nana tuxaSvili, fsiqoreabilitacia – olena belikova (ukrainidan devnili, xarkovis universitetis profesori), qarTuli cekvis masterklasi – nino menabdiSvili, qarTuli simReris masterklasi – maia gogiCaiSvili, gidi – Tamar oragveliZe.
– unari an Tviseba, romelic gexmarebaT am proeqtis ganxorcielebaSi. . .
– roca iTaviseb, rom sxvebis daxmareba SegiZlia da es adamianebi im eris Svilebi arian, romelic 15 Tvea, TavdacviT omSi, ruseTis saxiT yvelaze did borotebas ebrZvis, vfiqrob, sakuTar TavSi yvela resurss unda mouyaro Tavi da devnilTa yofis gaumjobesebisTvis SeuZlebeli SeZlo. gza, romelsac axla ukraina da ukraineli xalxi gadis, 1992-1993 wlebSi da 2008 wels gaviareT. samwuxarod, `borderizacia~ da rusi samxedroebis mier Cveni moqalaqeebis ukanono gataceba dResac grZeldeba, amitom rac axla megobar qveyanaSi xdeba, CvenTvis Zalian axlobelia, CemTvis – gansakuTrebiT. samxedro piris ojaxSi gavizarde, mamaCemi qarTuli armiis CamoyalibebisTanave qveynis samsaxurSi Cadga da sicocxlis bolomde erTgulad emsaxura, monawileobda teritoriuli mTlianobisTvis yvela TavdacviT omSi. . . mokled, imis Tqmas vcdilob, rom dRes ukraineli xalxis gverdiT dasadgomad gansakuTrebuli unarebi ar aris saWiro, miT ufro, roca mravali faqtis gamo valSi varT Cveni yvelaze didi partniori da megobari eris winaSe. bevri saubrobs da faqtebi gvaqvs, rom ukraina iyo msoflioSi erTaderTi saxelmwifo, romelmac 1993 wels afxazeTidan devnilebis evakuacia daiwyo. maT 17 Sveulmfrenis saSualebiT moaxdines 291 afrena da im pirobebSi, roca rusi da afxazi separatistebi pirdapiri damiznebiT isrodnen, 7643 qarTvelis sicocxle gadaarCines. ramdenime ukrainuli gemiTac mimdinareobda devnilebis evakuacia. garda am operaciisa, mniSvnelovani humanitaruli daxmareba gagviwies, aseve, ukraineli meomrebi ibrZodnen saqarTvelos mxares afxazeTis omSi, agvistos omis dros ki, saerTaSoriso da humanitaruli daxmarebis garda, ukrainis prezidenti piradad ewvia Tbiliss da im mZime dReebSi Cven gverdiT idga. . . kidev bevri faqtis moyvana SeiZleba, Tumca aq SevCerdeT.
– dabolos, rogorc ukraineli bavSvebis gulSematkivari, ras gegmavT, ras gaakeTebdiT maTTvis?
– uaxloes momavalSi siamovnebiT davgegmavdi mSvidobian aqcia-RonisZiebas da baTumSi droebiT mcxovreb ukrainel bavSvebs gamarjvebul ukrainaSi sazeimod gavacilebdi. mjera, es dRec male dadgeba, Tumca manamde xelSewyoba gvWirdeba, rom msgavsi proeqtebiT SevcvaloT megobrebis yoveldRiuroba.
