,,ყველა პროდასავლურმა პოლიტიკურმა პარტიამ უნდა იზრუნოს საკუთარი ელექტორატის შენარჩუნებისათვის”
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saqarTvelos ganviTarebas mniSvnelovnad rom ganapirobebs stabiluri politikuri garemo, efeqturi saSinao politika, politikuri speqtris saxelmwifoebrivi midgomebi da dasavleTis mxardaWera, araxalia. am mimarTebiT, samwuxarod, arc ise saxarbielo mdgomareobaa: opozicia mmarTvel partias adanaSaulebs qveynis interesebis SelaxvaSi, xelisufleba opoziciur speqtrs moRalateebad acxadebs da es realoba ufro da ufro TvalSisacemi xdeba, radgan partiebi araoficialurad emzadebian samomavlo arCevnebisTvis. CvenTan xom arCevnebi urTierTdapirispirebis fonze mimdinareobs. . . garda amisa, saerTaSoriso politikur arenaze aqtiurobs rogorc ruseTi, ise dasavleTi. Cveni qveyana elodeba evrokavSiris wevrobis kandidatis statuss. konkretulad, ra pretenzia aqvs opozicias mmarTveli gundis mimarT, ra gadaadgilebebia opoziciur flangze, ramdenad mosalodnelia koaliciuri mTavrobis formireba? am da sxva mniSvnelovan sakiTxebze `aWarasTan~ partiis – `lelo saqarTvelosTvis~ aWaris organizaciis erT-erTi lideri geno TebiZe saubrobs.
– rogoria Tqveni azri qveyanaSi mimdinare procesebze?
– Cvens qveyanaSi arasaxarbielo mdgomareobaa rogorc politikuri, ise ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT. yvelaze metad TvalSi gvxvdeba SiSi, nihilizmi da uimedoba. samwuxarod, Cveni mosaxleobis umravlesoba cxovrobs dRevandeli dRiT da strategia, faqtobrivad, ucxo xilia misi samomavlo gegmebisTvis. biZina ivaniSvils da mis `rusul ocnebas~ minda mivuloco – rac surdaT, warmatebiT gaarTves Tavi.
– ras gulisxmobT?
– imas, rom misi ocnebaa, qveyanas ar hqondes mTavari mizani – evroatlantikur ojaxSi gawevrianeba.
– Tqven uaryofiTad afasebT xelisuflebis saqmianobas, Tumca mmarTveli partia acxadebs, rom qveyana Tanmimdevrulad viTardeba da opoziciis braldebebi sxvadasxva sakiTxTan mimarTebiT usafuZvloa. . .
– dRes vakvirdebiT, ramdenad Sorsaa xelisufleba realobisgan. garda amisa, vxedavT imasac, rom mmarTveli partia sakuTari propagandistuli `iaraRiT~ rogor lamobs mosaxleobis mRelvarebis SeCerebas, Tesavs nihilizms da cdilobs, auxsnas mosaxleobas, rom evropa da amerika cudia da ukraina Tavad aris damnaSave. amave dros axmovaneben antisaxelmwifoebriv gancxadebebs: opozicia xalxis da qveynis mteria, vinc gansxvavebulad azrovnebs, `nacia~, `qarTvelobas gvarTmeven~ da a.S.
– xelisuflebis wevrebi acxadeben, rom isini ar lanZRaven dasavleTs, aramarTebul gamonaTqvamebze saxelmwifoebrivad reagireben. . .
– xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi bevr rames amboben, maTi ndoba ar SeiZleba. eduard SevardnaZis da aslan abaSiZis mmarTvelobis dros ar yofila aseTi Sturmi Cvens mokavSireebze, rac axla xdeba. arada, Tavad maTi Svilebi, ojaxis wevrebi ganaTlebas ucxoeTSi iReben, aq ewyobian sajaro samsaxurSi, dakavebuli arian biznesiT da udidesi komforti Seiqmnes Cvens xarjze. . . magram es xom maTTvis kanonzomieria da amaSic Cvens, opoziciis braleulobas xedaven. ver SevZeliT rusuli mentalobis xelisuflebis Canacvleba koaliciuri mTavrobiT, rac erTaderT gamosavlad gvesaxeba prodasavlur politikur Zalebs.
– opoziciis misamarTiT ukmayofilebas eqspertebic gamoxataven, magaliTad, xaTuna lagaziZe acxadebs, rom opozicia, ZiriTadad, urTierTdapirispireb-is reJimSia da mosaxleobasac daSorda, rogorc xelisufleba. Tqveni azri amis Sesaxeb?
– qalbaton xaTunas Zalian did pativs vcem da bevr rameSi veTanxmebi. is opoziciuri mocemuloba da resursi gaaCnia qveyanas, rasac vxedavT. sazogadoebas vetyodi: kargi, batonebo, gamoCndiT ukeTesebi, garwmunebT, yvela opoziciuri partiis karebi Riaa TqvenTvis. ras elodebiT? mobrZandiT! dRes, didi masStabiT xdeba opoziciis gamarginaleba. is imistia, es amistia, an kidev – qveyanaSi tradiciebis, qristianobis da `qarTvelobis~ mowinaaRmdege. . . sasaciloa, magram Zalian damafiqrebeli. sakuTar samzareuloSi rom zixar da qveynis tkivils iq ganixilav, es ar aris sakmarisi, gamodiT. dadeqiT Cven gverdiT da naxavT, rogor daixeven ukan es kremlis mexotbeebi.
– yvela sociologiuri gamokiTxvis Tanaxmad, opoziciis reitingi Semcirebulia, rasac emateba braldebebi erTmaneTis mimarT. . . Tqveni azriT, dResdReobiT opozicia ra stadiaSia?
– statistika imaze ukeTesia, vidre 2021 wlis TviTmmarTvelobis arCevnebis dros. maSin opoziciam 19-iT 16 mougo baTumis sakrebuloSi `qarTul ocnebas~, Tumca bolos xelebis gadagrexiT miaRwies sawadels, viRac gadaibires, maJoritar nugzar futkaraZis sicocxle Seewira am yvelafers da Cven dagvtoves winaswar daanonsebuli Sedegebis amara (kobaxiZe jiutad amtkicebda wagebis miuxedavad, rom mmarTveli partia iqneboda umravlesobaSi). amieridan es aRar gauvaT, xalxi ar dauSvebs.
– Tqvenma partiam ukve wamoayena `nacionaluri moZraobis~ gareSe opoziciuri erTobis idea. SeZlebT mesame centris Seqmnas?
– yvela prodasavlurma politikurma partiam unda izrunos sakuTari eleqtoratis SenarCunebisaTvis da am azrs myarad vuWer mxars. vimoqmedebT ise, rom am qveyanas CamovaciloT mavnebeli xelisufleba.
– ras ityviT `nacmoZraobaSi~ Seqmnil mdgomareobaze? amboben, rom SesaZloa partia or nawilad daiyos. . .
– yvela politikuri partia aris cocxali organizmi da iq mimdinare procesi bunebrivia. CvenTvis umTavresia Cveni partiis gaZliereba. `nacmoZraoba~ iqneba Tu sxva romelime politikuri partia, vfiqrob, uCvenodac Zalebs ar daiSureben Sida urTierTobebis dasalageblad. me mxolod warmatebas vusurveb yvela prodasavlur partias.
– praqtikulad, mmarTveli partia araoficialurad Caeba saarCevno maraTonSi, yovel SemTxvevaSi ase amboben eqspertebi. opoziciuri partiebi ratom arian inertulni?
– 300 milionze meti biujeti daumtkicda baTums. es kargia, magram sad iyvnen aT welze metxans! manamdec xom SeiZleboda biujetis zrda, masobrivi samuSaoebis Catareba da baTumze zrunva?! SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac Cans, rom mmarTveli partia yovel Tve iseTi suraTis Seqmnas cdilobs, riTac gamoCndeba, rogor Sromoben qveynisTvis. piradad me maT vurCev: cnobili 12 punqti Seasrulon, raTa qveyanas evropuli momavali ar daukargon. nu agineben Cvens partniorebs, nu lanZRaven umZimes mdgomareobaSi myof ukrainas da mis xelisuflebas, daexmaron ukrainidan devnil moqalaqeebs da rac mTavaria, Caataron demokratiuli, evropuli yaidis arCevnebi.
– rogorc cnobilia, saarCevno barieri xuTi procentia, ramdeni partia SeZlebs am barieris gadalaxvas, mosalodnelia Tu ara koaliciuri mTavarobis Seqmna?
– `qarTul ocnebas~ hgonia, rac ufro awevs bariers, xelisuflebaSi darCenis meti Sansi eqneba. Cven gadavlaxavT saarCevno bariers da upirobod davasrulebT am uniaTo xelisuflebas da iqneba koaliciuri mTavroba.
– vxedavT, rom saqarTvelos prezidenti salome zurabiSvili mmarTvel gunds drodadro akritikebs sxvadasxva sakiTxTan mimarTebiT. es risi maniSnebelia?
– salome zurabiSvilis `meore sunTqva~ TvalsaCinoa. me mxolod imas visurvebdi, rom meti siTamame da meti gambedaoba gamoiCinos. Cvenma partiam prezidents TanamSromloba SesTavaza qveynis sakeTildReod.
– sagareo sakiTxsac SevexoT. ruseTma saqarTvelos moqalaqeebisTvis gaauqma savizo reJimi da aRadgina sahaero mimosvlac. es, garkveulwilad, kandidatis statusis miniWebis CasaSlelad xom ar gakeTda?
– ruseTs Cveni qveynis sakeTildReod arasodes miuRia raime saxis gadawyvetileba. ra Tqma unda, es aris mmarTveli partiis da putinis erToblivi sabotaJi Cveni qveynis sawinaaRmdegod.
– mmarTveli gundi acxadebs, rom saxelmwifo sanqcirebuli aviakompaniebis Semosvlas qveyanaSi ar dauSvebs.
– me mxolod mivesalmebi im gadawyvetilebebs da Sedegs, rac am qveyanas waadgeba. 2012 wlidan am dReSi Cagvagdes da darCenil mcire droSi risi momswrebni arian, ar vici. ara mgonia, survili hqondeT. . . erTi kacis Semyure xelisuflebaa da veWvob, maTi iniciativa am adamians ainteresebdes.
– dabolos, yvela elodeba ukrainis kontrSetevas, ra SesaZleblobas usaxavs ruseTis damarcxeba postsabWoTa qveynebs da maT Soris saqarTvelos?
– ukraina moigebs am oms! ukrainis mogeba niSnavs srul Tavisuflebas, axal gamowvevebs, axal SesaZleblobebs, Cveni qveynis realur damoukideblobas da momaval siZlieres. madloba Cvens biWebs, TiToeuls, vinc ibrZvis ukrainaSi, unda viamayoT maTiT. ar unda daviviwyoT daRupuli biWebi, romlebic daecnen ukrainaSi, ar unda daviRaloT, unda davexmaroT ukrainas, rogorc SegviZlia. dideba saqarTvelos! dideba ukrainas!
